Immaculate Conception

[ConquerorPlus]

Well, it was happening, as you pointed out with Acts 15. Also John

Rev. 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

The question is what's the test? You may defend RC, others disagree. What's the test?

The signs of a true apostle were performed among you with utmost patience, with signs and wonders and mighty works (2 Cor 12:2).

Frankie is a fraud by God's standard.

 

[Extraneous]

In my humble opinion-

Catholicism is more complicated and legalistic than the New Testament is. They even seem to have their own law book. Thats a sharp contrast to Pauls teaching which says that love fulfills the law.

Paul urged simplicity in my opinion. You see it everywhere. Love fulfills the law is one example. Of course Christ gave us more commands than that alone, and those commands teach us how to love, and how to sow to the spirit, the Spirit who teaches us to love.

 

[Thursday]

Paul actually said that in the last days people would no longer endure sound doctrine and would follow teachers who would lead them away from the truth.

Thats what Paul said.

That sounds like protestantism to me, which is full of teachers who allow gay marriage, abortion, contraception, etc.

 

[Thursday]

Can i say something, without trying to be offensive?

Catholicism is about as far away from the original Church as you can get. Its not closer, its farther away.

I used to think the same thing. Guess what, I was wrong.

That's why I challenged you to do some research about the early Church. You don't have to worry about offending me, I've been where you are now.

I'm like hundreds of former protestant pastors who are now Catholic. I've learned the truth.

This book is a good starting point:

 

[Thursday]

Well, it was happening, as you pointed out with Acts 15. Also John

It did not happen.

A controversy arose. The Church was consulted.

Peter settled it by revealing direct revelation form God to him:

Acts 15
7After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”

 

[ConquerorPlus]

I used to think the same thing. Guess what, I was wrong.

That's why I challenged you to do some research about the early Church. You don't have to worry about offending me, I've been where you are now.

I'm like hundreds of former protestant pastors who are now Catholic. I've learned the truth.

This book is a good starting point:

A reference to a carnal book, instead of Christ is all we need to know!

 

[Thursday]

A reference to a carnal book, instead of Christ is all we need to know!

Are you talking about the bible?

 

[Extraneous]

That sounds like protestantism to me, which is full of teachers who allow gay marriage, abortion, contraception, etc.

Catholicism was teaching bad doctrine way before those things ever existed. PLease brother, open your eyes and see the truth.

 

[ConquerorPlus]

That sounds like protestantism to me, which is full of teachers who allow gay marriage, abortion, contraception, etc.

Protestants follow men, like Catholics do. Sexual immorality is rife in both asylums!

 

[ConquerorPlus]

Are you talking about the bible?

No, the book you recommended, instead of seeking Christ.

 

[Extraneous]

I used to think the same thing. Guess what, I was wrong.

That's why I challenged you to do some research about the early Church. You don't have to worry about offending me, I've been where you are now.

I'm like hundreds of former protestant pastors who are now Catholic. I've learned the truth.

This book is a good starting point:

The early Church? The bible is the early Church, and it doesn't teach Catholicism. Not only does Catholicism add much more to bible doctrine than was given by the Apostles, but it also doesnt teach the bible itself correctly either. They get so much wrong that im amazed at how blind their leaders are.

 

[Thursday]

Catholicism was teaching bad doctrine way before those things ever existed. PLease brother, open your eyes and see the truth.

Who determines what bad doctrine is?

(and those things existed long before Jesus came to earth)

 

[Thursday]

The early Church? The bible is the early Church, and it doesn't teach Catholicism. Not only does Catholicism add much more to bible doctrine than was given by the Apostles, but it also doesnt teach the bible itself correctly either. They get so much wrong that im amazed at how blind their leaders are.

Who told you which books belong in the bible?

The bible is not the early Church. The Church existed for many decades before the New Testament was even written, let alone canonized. It took at least 300 years before the New Testament books were agreed upon.

 

[Extraneous]

Who told you which books belong in the bible?

Here we go. The pharisees and scribes gave me the Old Testament, but i wont be following their example, and i will steer clear of their leaven (doctrine) as well.

 

[Thursday]

Here we go. The pharisees and scribes gave me the Old Testament, but i wont be following their example, and i will steer clear of their leaven (doctrine) as well.

How do you know which books belong in the New Testament?

Who told you?

When was this decided?

The truth is, the Church was on its fourth pope before the book of Revelation was even written.

The Church predates the New Testament.

How did the early Christians learn the gospel? How did they worship?

You can read about this if you are interested. It helps you to understand the New Testament.

 

[Extraneous]

Who determines what bad doctrine is?

The Lord, Paul, Peter, James, John and Jude.

 

[Extraneous]

How do you know which books belong in the New Testament?

Who told you?

When was this decided?

The truth is, the Church was on its fourth pope before the book of Revelation was even written.

The Church predates the New Testament.

How did the early Christians learn the gospel? How did they worship?

You can read about this if you are interested. It helps you to understand the New Testament.

That's a logical fallacy, if i'm not mistaken.

Also, if we use your fallacy as a guide, then the early Church could have just followed the scribes instead of the Lord.

 

[Extraneous]

Not to mention King James. I don't follow King James but i read his bible

 

[Extraneous]

KIng James gave me my Bible.

 

[Albion]

I'm like hundreds of former protestant pastors who are now Catholic. I've learned the truth.

You hardly had to mention it.

Almost every one of the Catholics who come here determined to talk Protestants down by telling them and telling them that the Catholic Church is the only true church...are converts to Roman Catholicism.

By comparison, Catholics who were raised in the faith do not approach it with a the mindset of a Fundamentalist except for having a new set of memorized answers.