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Everyone here has been speaking to you on Satanism, you believe that is your calling. Many of us can try to convince you not to join, but it only comes down to your decision. Personally I am against all Satanism, Wicca, or any New Age type of thing, but that is my point of view and my opinion, of course you don't see it that way. And calling many of us- Narrow Minded Christians is complete nonsense, many members are taking the time out to help you, but easily you feel threatened when they speak truth. Of course that is Satan controlling you like a pawn on a chess board. I am not trying to sound harsh, but I am trying to speak to you the best way that I can so that you understand. You believe Satanism is the key that will bring you satisfaction in life, but yet apart of you wants to stay with Jesus. My only response is: You will either become a Servant of Jesus or a Servant to Satanism, but Remember:
"No servant can serve Two Masters." Luke 14:33


Godbless. :wave:
 
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RubiesFire1382 said:
SaintMarco-

Everyone here has been speaking to you on Satanism, you believe that is your calling. Many of us can try to convince you not to join, but it only comes down to your decision. Personally I am against all Satanism, Wicca, or any New Age type of thing, but that is my point of view and my opinion, of course you don't see it that way. And calling many of us- Narrow Minded Christians is complete nonsense, many members are taking the time out to help you, but easily you feel threatened when they speak truth. Of course that is Satan controlling you like a pawn on a chess board. I am not trying to sound harsh, but I am trying to speak to you the best way that I can so that you understand. You believe Satanism is the key that will bring you satisfaction in life, but yet apart of you wants to stay with Jesus. My only response is: You will either become a Servant of Jesus or a Servant to Satanism, but Remember:
"No servant can serve Two Masters." Luke 14:33


Godbless. :wave:

Look, I respect your view on this, but it's ridiculous to say that Satan is controlling me. You're christian so I sort of expect you to say that. He's not, i've just always been very opinionated and question everything. I don't feel threatened by anything anyone on here is saying, I actually find it all very interesting.

What I DO feel threatened by, is Islamics.
 
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Encouragement:

Psalm's 37:24 "Though he fall,he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand."

We all make mistakes, and sometimes doing right can seem to be hard to do. But pray in your time of struggle and he will see you through.May GOD Bless you.
 
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SaintMarco said:
You misunderstand what Satanism is. The type of Satanism i'm talking about isn't "Satanic worship". There are two types of Satanists, and modern Satanist DON'T worship the devil. I don't know if God is guiding me into it, but I feel I NEED to try it in order for my soul to grow. It's just one of these things, almost like destiny. I'm a little confused and don't yet feel ready to take the step into Satanism. It's a big step.
God CANNOT do evil, or force you to do evil, so please don't think that He is guiding you to renounce Christianity. Whatever you may think, or have been told that satanism is, it certainly is worship of the devil. Why would you want to do this? Where do you think that satanism is going to take you? Into heaven .. or into hell?

Your post states that you are sick of treating people like crap. Why would you think it is your Christianity that "makes" you treat people like crap? Why give God the responsibility for your behavior? Your behavior is solely your responsibility, and not God's. That's kinda like all these crazies who kill people and say "God made me do it". No he did not. God cannot do evil. (No, I'm not saying you're a crazie, so please don't think that).

You know, there is a stage in our Christian walk where God does seem to withdraw from us. Perhaps you are going through that stage. He stages close through the early stages, then takes the leading rein off and lets us do as we please. Perhaps you are at this stage. In any case, it seems to me that the devil is hard at your heels, and usually the devil is hard at the heels of a person who is close to God, because the devil wants to tear you from God. Don't let this happen. I let go of God's hand when I was about 17, and I don't want to even tell you the places that I went to, but it was very bad for a very long time. Right now is when you want to cling to God, pray, pray and pray, and have your family pray for you, and your Christian friends, and everyone else you can think of. Also, have the Bible to hand and find some scriptures that give you strength.

Matthew 22:37 says Thou shalt love the Lord they God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind

There's no room there for "I've given up Lord - I'm going to be Lucifer's friend for a while".

I am praying for you Saint Marco, and I pray that the Lord give you strength.

Blessings, L
 
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God CANNOT do evil, or force you to do evil, so please don't think that He is guiding you to renounce Christianity. Whatever you may think, or have been told that satanism is, it certainly is worship of the devil. Why would you want to do this? Where do you think that satanism is going to take you? Into heaven .. or into hell?

Your post states that you are sick of treating people like crap. Why would you think it is your Christianity that "makes" you treat people like crap? Why give God the responsibility for your behavior? Your behavior is solely your responsibility, and not God's. That's kinda like all these crazies who kill people and say "God made me do it". No he did not. God cannot do evil. (No, I'm not saying you're a crazie, so please don't think that).

You know, there is a stage in our Christian walk where God does seem to withdraw from us. Perhaps you are going through that stage. He stages close through the early stages, then takes the leading rein off and lets us do as we please. Perhaps you are at this stage. In any case, it seems to me that the devil is hard at your heels, and usually the devil is hard at the heels of a person who is close to God, because the devil wants to tear you from God. Don't let this happen. I let go of God's hand when I was about 17, and I don't want to even tell you the places that I went to, but it was very bad for a very long time. Right now is when you want to cling to God, pray, pray and pray, and have your family pray for you, and your Christian friends, and everyone else you can think of. Also, have the Bible to hand and find some scriptures that give you strength.

Matthew 22:37 says Thou shalt love the Lord they God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind

There's no room there for "I've given up Lord - I'm going to be Lucifer's friend for a while".

I am praying for you Saint Marco, and I pray that the Lord give you strength.

Blessings, L

And yes, I was close to God before. Still though, I'll see what happens...
 
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Encouragement:

Psalm's 37:24 "Though he fall,he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand."

We all make mistakes, and sometimes doing right can seem to be hard to do. But pray in your time of struggle and he will see you through.May GOD Bless you.

Thank you for your kind encouragement.
 
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SaintMarco said:
Not particulary, no, I'd rather serve myself.

You can try to serve yourself, but God does a much better job of it, if you let Him. You may be headed for much more misery if you go to Satanism, no matter what brand it is. I have heard of the Church of Satan you speak of, and saw a brief news story about it. Trust those who have been there already, and came back to God. They are speaking from experience.
 
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RubiesFire1382 said:
SaintMarco-

Everyone here has been speaking to you on Satanism, you believe that is your calling. Many of us can try to convince you not to join, but it only comes down to your decision. Personally I am against all Satanism, Wicca, or any New Age type of thing, but that is my point of view and my opinion, of course you don't see it that way. And calling many of us- Narrow Minded Christians is complete nonsense, many members are taking the time out to help you, but easily you feel threatened when they speak truth. Of course that is Satan controlling you like a pawn on a chess board. I am not trying to sound harsh, but I am trying to speak to you the best way that I can so that you understand. You believe Satanism is the key that will bring you satisfaction in life, but yet apart of you wants to stay with Jesus. My only response is: You will either become a Servant of Jesus or a Servant to Satanism, but Remember:
"No servant can serve Two Masters." Luke 14:33


Godbless. :wave:
 
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SaintMarco said:
Satanism is not worshipping the devil, which you would know if you actually took the time to (I'm sick saying this now) READ ABOUT IT. Would SOMEONE actually go to <satanic website link deleted> actually read up on it please? I am now getting sick repeating myself.

And yes, I was close to God before. Still though, I'll see what happens...
I'm sorry, I don't log into those kind of websites, nor anything with the word "satan" in it. You may view that as superstition OR stupidity, but I don't wish to dwell upon the fallen angel, but upon God. Anything that is not of God, is not good.
 
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SaintMarco can you please delete the link with churchofsatan? it might be a stumbling block to some christians..

God is your creator, He loves you, Satan hates you because he hates God and wants you seperated from Him... Not feeling Gods love when you have felt it before is like hell I think...

Proverbs 15:24 (King James Version) 24The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.


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http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs%2015:24;&version=9;

I should Thank God me and you are still alive SaintMarco.. you do not know if you will die tommorow or if you will die while you are trying ? Satanism ? and if you are still alive you might regret later that you ever walked in that dangerous path ..
I think you found the christian life hard maybe because you might of departed from some very bad sins because of fear of punishment but you never really hated sin... I read somewhere something like .. A person can not live in emotional unhappiness ... therefore you need your heart to be filled with something deeper than the love of sin... you need to be filled with a love for God... you can ask God to give you His love always... and show you ways to be filled.

Again I recommend this book for you to read online (If I already recommended it ? )
http://tasbeha.org/content/hh_books/Repentan/index.html
 
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Laurentia said:
I'm sorry, I don't log into those kind of websites, nor anything with the word "satan" in it. You may view that as superstition OR stupidity, but I don't wish to dwell upon the fallen angel, but upon God. Anything that is not of God, is not good.

Well then don't give your opinions on something you know nothing about if you are too scared to find out about it.
 
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mikeforjesus said:
SaintMarco can you please delete the link with churchofsatan? it might be a stumbling block to some christians..

God is your creator, He loves you, Satan hates you because he hates God and wants you seperated from Him... Not feeling Gods love when you have felt it before is like hell I think...

Proverbs 15:24 (King James Version) 24The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.


From
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs%2015:24;&version=9;

I should Thank God me and you are still alive SaintMarco.. you do not know if you will die tommorow or if you will die while you are trying ? Satanism ? and if you are still alive you might regret later that you ever walked in that dangerous path ..
I think you found the christian life hard maybe because you might of departed from some very bad sins because of fear of punishment but you never really hated sin... I read somewhere something like .. A person can not live in emotional unhappiness ... therefore you need your heart to be filled with something deeper than the love of sin... you need to be filled with a love for God... you can ask God to give you His love always... and show you ways to be filled.

Again I recommend this book for you to read online (If I already recommended it ? )
http://tasbeha.org/content/hh_books/Repentan/index.html

I'm afraid I can't delete that link. If it has to be a stumbling block for Christians, then so be it I'm afraid. I guess that's just fate.

I'm afraid I am too filled with sin to ever be a good Christian or servant of God now.
 
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SaintMarco said:
Well then don't give your opinions on something you know nothing about if you are too scared to find out about it.
You know nothing of me, or of what I have experienced in my life or been through, and you don't care either - right! So don't make assumptions. People make choices. You are making a choice to follow satan, I am making a choice to follow God. It is upon your own head.

As far as "perfect" is concerned, God does not want you to be perfect. He wants you to love Him and follow Him. That's all.
 
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SaintMarco said:
If it has to be a stumbling block for Christians, then so be it I'm afraid. I guess that's just fate.
Are you familiar with Matthew 18:6 - "But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea."

It's not fate, it's choice.
 
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SaintMarco said:
I'm afraid I can't delete that link. If it has to be a stumbling block for Christians, then so be it I'm afraid. I guess that's just fate.

I'm afraid I am too filled with sin to ever be a good Christian or servant of God now.
I hear you saying that fear and guilt are steering your decisions. That's not a very good way to make a decision my friend! But the choice of where to place your faith really is up to you. Whatever sin you have in your life can be wiped away if you're ready. : )
 
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SaintMarco said:
I'm afraid I can't delete that link. If it has to be a stumbling block for Christians, then so be it I'm afraid. I guess that's just fate.[/qoute]

Fate is fate, but Destiny is Higher than fate.

SaintMarco said:
I'm afraid I am too filled with sin to ever be a good Christian or servant of God now.

Even the greatest of sinners, worse than you have turned around and have become a child of God.
I am actually believing that this is something else, maybe this has nothing to do with Spirituality at all. The thing is your probably seeking "Satanism" because you want to feel as though you belong in a crowd of people who will accept you for who you are-even though us Christians are not accepting the idea of Satanism, you don't want to be in a group with Christians. People give me a nickname- Bible Thumper- it's their insult towards me, but hey I love it. I take humility for Jesus everday. So if you join Satanism, you would think, this feels cool, I am in a crowd of people who love and respect on what I do. The thing is I am not that much older than you, however, God has given me great wisdom for my age. I was 19 not that long ago, but I went through a two year of darkness, when I was 17 and 18. I am going to admit this for the very first time in my life- I thought Satan was cool. I rebelled against God. I hated everything of Good, and I don't know why I turned away from Jesus but I remember saying this to Jesus one night, "Jesus, I am letting you go. I don't want you in my life right now, maybe another time." I was happy that I was free, well so I thought. Months passed and I felt something happening to me, I was becoming dark inside my heart, I felt my soul turning ugly. This is something SaintMarco you don't want to feel. I ignored the feelings but deep inside I had pain, anger, frustration, and saddness. I tried praying to God, but the sound of prayer made me sick inside.So I would stop. I once even threw the Bible against the wall when I was 17. Any message of God made me angry or hateful, even sick. A year and half later I asked spoke to Jesus once again and I asked him, "Please can you show me what my soul looks like inside." Few days later I had a dream where I saw something that made me seek God once more, I saw my soul. This is what happens when someone does not repent or falls away from God, and I thank Jesus for showing me this, if you ever saw the movie the Exorcist, let me tell you, my soul made that movie look like Goody Goody Gum Drops, my soul made me scream when I got to see it. My soul was becoming evil, my soul's image itself would scare those who could of seen it. This is what Satan wanted. I remember waking up and shaking, my heart was racing, nothing could calm, but yet I stayed that way for another six months. My family never saw this, I kept this hidden beneath smiles and laughs, but deep inside I was dead inside, After my family moved, I began turning myself around, I begged Jesus to come back into my life, I was begging him to forgive my sins, because I was afraid. I kept hearing Demons in my room when I was a teenager, because I gave Jesus up. How much I begged and cried for Jesus. I fell to the floor in my bedroom and cried. I yelled out his name, anything you could think of I tried to get his attention. I wanted Jesus back so much that I would of died for his love. This is very hard for me to write, because I am reflecting on my past, and this is making me cry, because what I did. That night I felt the glorious presence of Jesus with me in a dream, he took my soul in my dream and I could only remember him saying to me was, "Your sins are forgiven," and he took my soul into a bright light. That morning I woke up a very different person, my soul could breath like freash air of a country morning. Yet my body was very weak. My body was weak for three days, but my Soul was very alive and clean. I never returned to be that person again, that experience ended when I was 18. I am now going to be 24 soon, and when I look back I cherish what Jesus has done for me all my life. I put him first now, even though sometimes I still fall, every Christian does, we get back on our feet. We carry our Cross and we demonstrate our love for Jesus. I love talking about him, he is my number one love. I am actually getting a degree to teach children about Jesus. Even though SaintMarco this is not Satanism, I am giving a little dose of what can happen to you if you abandon Christ for Satanism. I did not even give you my full experience of my letting go of Jesus. If you join Satanism, your soul is going to scream like mine did, your life will be going around in circles, and then one day everything is going to come crashing down all at once, then what?? I don't think you want to experience what I went through!! Like I said this was just a dose of my experience, not the full blown story. This was all because I dropped Jesus because I didn't want to be apart of Christianity ever again, I wanted to become an Atheist. Well look where I am today. I am a Christian once again and I am proud that I am. I cannot speak for you, but your own soul is going to speak for/to you when that time comes. So please rethink your decision, I don't want you to suffer how I did. Even though this is not about Satanism, I want you to understand the punishment your soul is going to be taking when the flesh makes the wrong decision in life.

Godbless. :hug:

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SaintMarco said:
I'm sick of being a Christian. It isn't working for me. I treat people around me like crap and it's because I'm not happy within myself. I have tried being God's child and it's not working out for me. I am too opinionated, too arrogant and too different. Humans are naturally selfish creatures and that's what I am. I have a sad pathetic life, and it's all thanks to being a child of God, he is making me very miserable.

I believe Satanism may be the religion for me afterall. God is proving this to me. I asked for answers and I'm getting them.
Your 19, you'll feel diferent about it next week.
 
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