I'm Not Saved, Am I...?

[siralex172]

Oi!....I feel really rough now...how do you persevre through dry seasons? I feel put out..

Take joy in the fight, the attention it gives and dont worry about being big

 

[Breaking Enigma]

Edit: Wrong Thread

 

[HannahElizaW]

OK, seriously? To those saying that they would go for support and then hope that the Holy Spirit would work in their lives, then what? If the Holy Spirit works in their lives, this is what the Holy Spirit believes:

Leviticus 20:
13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

Romans 1:
26 God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

1 Corinthians 6:
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

So what, exactly, are you hoping for when you say that you hope the Holy Spirit works in their lives? A divorce? Then what's the point?

..what?..

 

[Breaking Enigma]

..what?..

Sorry, CF skips on my phone, so when I think I've clicked one thread, it's actually another. I will edit: Wrong Thread.

 

[HannahElizaW]

Sorry, CF skips on my phone, so when I think I've clicked one thread, it's actually another. I will edit: Wrong Thread.

HAHA okay. It's alright.

 

[KimT]

Hannah, If you have been diagnosed with OCD and general anxiety, are you seeing a counselor and a psychiatrist? Have you considered that these conditions might affect how you are processing your salvation? I've gone to a Christian counselor AND psychiatrist for similar issues with great success. I was filled with guilt and didn't believe I was "worthy" of salvation. All that has changed. I'm still dealing with my sins but I see much progress in putting God first in my life. I have fellowship with other Christian women and that has helped me with accountability. Brain chemistry disorders can really mess up your thinking and being on the right meds can help you focus on your Christian walk. The "I don't care" feeling can accompany depression.

 

[HannahElizaW]

Hannah, If you have been diagnosed with OCD and general anxiety, are you seeing a counselor and a psychiatrist? Have you considered that these conditions might affect how you are processing your salvation?

Though not a whole lot of money isone reasoning, I did visit a Psychologist a while back and she misinterpreted a lot of things and recommended that I'd be taken to the ER immediately, so we've never went back since. But we're in a flux and don't have a wholeot of money for doctor's visits like that.

 

[Axoflegend]

Hello, I haven't read all the replies to this post, but thought I should throw my two cents in, I struggled with depression while being a christian, and while it's not the same as anxiety, it can have the same effect, I too wondered if I was saved, because God seemed so distant at times, let me assure you that what a lot of the other people were saying is true, it just comes down to whether you believe that he's saved you. John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." its not whether you "feel" it or not, its all about a choice, which admittedly feels likes its based off feelings even though its not. It's a hard battle when your mind is in a sub optimal state, believe me, but don't give up, that's just what Satan wants, I hope this message helps, and I'll be praying for you

 

[Claire Evans]

"How did you become a Christian?"
The answer: I had anxiety attacks and decided to pray to God and He turned my focus away from my problems and unto Him and I found out that accepting Jesus was the only way to get to Heaven doesn't necessarily suffice when you've doubted as much and as severely as I have.

No human or kind words can feel the void of awkwardness or upset that I feel when listening to people ecstatically exclaim their personal testimony of how they were in a bad place and Jesus "turned their life around", whilst I have a response like above (previously stated).

Romans 10:9...confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead and you shall be saved.
Of all my curiosity, I've never quite understood what that meant; to believe in your heart. How do you know when you believe? Is it a feeling? What does believe even mean, biblically speaking?

The hardest thing of all about this is that it feels deliberate. Like God has brought me this far, but I'm still on the outside looking in. Like I'm still not. Like God does not want to save me.

And of course I have the enemy on my back saying "give up"..."give up already". But hellbound is not a place we ought to be.

Why is this happening, though?

I pray for faith, belief, and a heart of repentance.
I pray for my desire to sin to end.
I pray for God to make me realize deep down in this black pit of my heart that I AM a sinner and I NEED a Savior and that Savior is the ONLY way into heaven.
I pray for my heart to change.
I pray to be overwhelmed and brought down with tears and thanksgiving for what Jesus did.
I want to be overwhelmed by God's glory.
I want to want.
I want to desire more righteousness.
I want to be more righteous.
I pray for all of this.
I pray..
...........and pray...
.............................and pray.

But God hasn't necessarily answered me.

Why is this happening?

Why doesn't God help me? Why doesn't God answer me? Why do I still feel, think, and believe like I am not saved? I don't know where I'll end up when I die....

Why doesn't God change that?

The first step to believing is to pray. It's rather difficult when someone says, "Just believe." Pray to the Lord to help you believe. The only way to have a personal relationship with God is through prayer.

When a person truly wants to find the Lord, they will get major harassment from Satan. It is inevitable to ask God, "Where are you?" when our faith is being refined. Persist with prayer. I asked that question, too, and realized that it was part of the refinement process. In retrospect, I knew God was there all the time.

It is Satan who wants you to believe you aren't saved. Persist in your prayers. If you truly seek the Lord, you won't go to hell. The reason why I think you feel you are not getting a response from God is because you have fear in your heart. Satan feeds off fear. He wants you to believe hell may be your destination even though you are seeking the Lord. Fear gives Satan more power and pushes the Lord away.

1 John 4:18

18 There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.

Of course humans will have fearful moments. This needs courage and Jesus always gave encouragement to the disciples when they were afraid. Bravery is not ever being fearful but having the courage to go on despite being afraid. Feeling feel is part of the refinement process. As we are exposed to God's love, fear gets less and less.

 

[Godskeptpromises]

"How did you become a Christian?"
The answer: I had anxiety attacks and decided to pray to God and He turned my focus away from my problems and unto Him and I found out that accepting Jesus was the only way to get to Heaven doesn't necessarily suffice when you've doubted as much and as severely as I have.

No human or kind words can feel the void of awkwardness or upset that I feel when listening to people ecstatically exclaim their personal testimony of how they were in a bad place and Jesus "turned their life around", whilst I have a response like above (previously stated).

Romans 10:9...confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead and you shall be saved.
Of all my curiosity, I've never quite understood what that meant; to believe in your heart. How do you know when you believe? Is it a feeling? What does believe even mean, biblically speaking?

The hardest thing of all about this is that it feels deliberate. Like God has brought me this far, but I'm still on the outside looking in. Like I'm still not. Like God does not want to save me.

And of course I have the enemy on my back saying "give up"..."give up already". But hellbound is not a place we ought to be.

Why is this happening, though?

I pray for faith, belief, and a heart of repentance.
I pray for my desire to sin to end.
I pray for God to make me realize deep down in this black pit of my heart that I AM a sinner and I NEED a Savior and that Savior is the ONLY way into heaven.
I pray for my heart to change.
I pray to be overwhelmed and brought down with tears and thanksgiving for what Jesus did.
I want to be overwhelmed by God's glory.
I want to want.
I want to desire more righteousness.
I want to be more righteous.
I pray for all of this.
I pray..
...........and pray...
.............................and pray.

But God hasn't necessarily answered me.

Why is this happening?

Why doesn't God help me? Why doesn't God answer me? Why do I still feel, think, and believe like I am not saved? I don't know where I'll end up when I die....

Why doesn't God change that?

I think I know what's going on. It's a nagging feeling and it won't let you be. I have been diagnosed with OCD when I was 10.
Although doubt wasn't much of a problem for me I do know the uncertainty of whether I have done something wrong. The devil is messing with your head. Don't say he isn't because from what I have seen you care very much about your faith. You have accepted Jesus and whether you have some doubts as you grow with Jesus you can ignore them and realize that it's the devil,your fine. You arnt lying as you type this post. That's the devil again saying that you arnt saved when you are. Trust me you wouldn't go to dramatic measures if you were saved.
My best awnser is to get closer to God. Read the bible and pray to him even though you are doing that now. Hold on , the situation will get better even if you don't think so. I would like to apologize for my grammar.

 

[HannahElizaW]

I think I know what's going on. It's a nagging feeling and it won't let you be. I have been diagnosed with OCD when I was 10.
Although doubt wasn't much of a problem for me I do know the uncertainty of whether I have done something wrong. The devil is messing with your head. Don't say he isn't because from what I have seen you care very much about your faith. You have accepted Jesus and whether you have some doubts as you grow with Jesus you can ignore them and realize that it's the devil,your fine. You arnt lying as you type this post. That's the devil again saying that you arnt saved when you are. Trust me you wouldn't go to dramatic measures if you were saved.
My best awnser is to get closer to God. Read the bible and pray to him even though you are doing that now. Hold on , the situation will get better even if you don't think so. I would like to apologize for my grammar.

Thank you.

 

[Quasicentennial]

Faith is present-active in that Jesus exists spiritually in our hearts as he gives out spiritual abundance, most commonly peace and joy, and as we receive Christ's positive spiritual abundance, our attitude is as calm as a windless still pond, mirroring Christ's calm and peaceful attitude throughout his life's struggles with the poor and sick in the Middle East, never carrying a weapon such as a knife or gun, to defend himself from those who oppose his life existence as a leader to heal the poor and sick - just tremendous courage was his only weapon against the enemy:.
Tremendous courage from Jesus is received constantly as our faith in him is continuously switched on, as our health and safety are under supernatural protection from the
1) inner world: mental and physical diseases and disabilities
2) outer world: crime, war, non-Christian influences such as athiesm and Muslim:.
Faith is also future-active in that the physical presence of Jesus Christ in his Second Coming future victory return as Satan will be defeated, Christ's true identity will be revealed in full daylight, since Jesus has the power of resurrection and transformation, transforming us with new genius-intelligent minds of Christ so that Fact or Truth will replace Faith and Belief, once Jesus has been seen and heard that very first moment with such clarity with our new eyes and ears of Christ:.
Besides our measure-perfect bodies of Christ where the correct body-height and body-shape are given, just like Adam and Eve before they had sinned, and where obesity, gigantism, dwarfism and other deforming diseases or disability will never exist while Jesus reigns on a new disaster-free paradise Earth.;'*';.

 

[HannahElizaW]

If you don't believe you deserve death, that may be the issue. I mean REALLY deserve it.

I...am starting to realize that is the issue.

(thanks pride)

 

[Mark G]

oops, sorry, delete please

 

[Mark G]

sorry, delete please

 

[BeStill&Know]

I think I know what's going on. It's a nagging feeling and it won't let you be. I have been diagnosed with OCD when I was 10.
Although doubt wasn't much of a problem for me I do know the uncertainty of whether I have done something wrong. The devil is messing with your head. Don't say he isn't because from what I have seen you care very much about your faith. You have accepted Jesus and whether you have some doubts as you grow with Jesus you can ignore them and realize that it's the devil,your fine. You arnt lying as you type this post. That's the devil again saying that you arnt saved when you are. Trust me you wouldn't go to dramatic measures if you were saved.
My best awnser is to get closer to God. Read the bible and pray to him even though you are doing that now. Hold on , the situation will get better even if you don't think so. I would like to apologize for my grammar.

Good morning. If there are still unanswered questions you have, re-post them.

 

[aus22]

There are many ways to God. Protestant place great emphasis on being born again. if you have that you are saved .Catholics believe while this is possible you must repent of all your sins. This is hard to do with future sins. So we are not sure that we are saved. However if you do what your concept of God wants you will be saved.