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To add, Jesus was 100% God and 100% Man! He Grew in wisdom, hungered, sleept, and weeped... all attributes of man!
He forgave sins, he could be blesphemed, he created the world... all attributes of God! moreover John the Baptist testemoney in all the four gospels, is that Jesus is LORD as the prophet Isaiah said!

I thought I would make that clear bear!!
 
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To add, Jesus was 100% God and 100% Man! He Grew in wisdom, hungered, sleept, and weeped... all attributes of man!
He forgave sins, he could be blesphemed, he created the world... all attributes of God! moreover John the Baptist testemoney in all the four gospels, is that Jesus is LORD as the prophet Isaiah said!

I thought I would make that clear bear!!
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P1: Animals are multi-cellular organisms.
P2: Angels are not multi-cellular organisms.
C: Therefore, angels cannot be considered as 'animals'.
Well, I'm certainly glad science clears that up! :)
 
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Not I.

I'm a member of the Kingdom of Heaven -- :thumbsup:

And I suspect Juve is too.

I can't stop be amazed by the wisdom of Solomon. He said nearly 3000 years ago that many would think that they are (the same as) animals. Probably not much could be done to those who are willingly to devolve themselves.
 
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Are they indistinguishable from humans?
Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
 
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If you cannot tell me if a gnome is an animal, then don't expect me to tell you if an angel is an animal.
You wouldn't tell me anyway -- you know better.

I'd pwn you back to last Thursday -- ;)
 
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I can't stop be amazed by the wisdom of Solomon. He said nearly 3000 years ago that many would think that they are (the same as) animals. Probably not much could be done to those who are willingly to devolve themselves.
Yup -- ain't that a shame?
 
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Ha ha ha. You kids yourself.

Millions of dinosaur fossils, but only one immature (?) bird fossil?

I think even you would have big problem to believe that.

I would... if all the evidence consisted of one immature bird fossil....
 
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I would... if all the evidence consisted of one immature bird fossil....

Even so, the question is still not answered. The dinosaur evolved 250 m.y. If the fake bird were the only product of dino evolution, it would be too late, too slow, and too ineffective.
 
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Which defining property of animals do you think you lack?

And what's so shameful about being an animal, anyway?

You are almost right. You can "almost" argue that whatever we do, at least one animal can also do it. (it is a bad argument any way.)

However, I give you a simple one to shut you up:

Only human raises fire.

And I guess you do know how important the fire is in the "evolution" of human.
 
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Surprisingly :doh:

I'm pretty sure I've given it already, since I pull it out all the time. Nevertheless, here it is again. (Also, I found this while googling up that paper. Just one reason not everyone goes multicellular :))

Why?

If evolution can randomly add or remove complexity with equal chance, and it starts from low complexity, I'm pretty sure you still get an overall trend of increasing complexity in the long term simply because of your starting point. Wait, I'll try to simulate this...

I will try to read the article (and the one given by Split Rock). Thanks.

Your nice little experiment only says one thing: the statistic meaning of "random" is 50%. A nice exercise, nevertheless. I still want to go back the bacteria argument. If evolution is random, then bacteria should break through the unknown barrier and evolved into something which is not a bacterium. Why does this not happen in the past 4000 million years? Randomness can not explain it.
 
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