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No. The future and past are in the different state camp. Firmly. I dare you to prove otherwise!
I am glad you made this statement so that I can take the opportunity to add if I may to your absolutely correct statement:

Yes the Future and past are in the different state camp because the Royal society of pedigree owners of African honey badgers and the Samoan society for the preservation of the rare and deadly dwarf starfish cone decided unanimously that both belong to the different state camp. I challenge all you atheistic evolutionist heathens to prove me otherwise :p:p:p:p:p;):kiss::kiss::kiss:
 
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I am glad you made this statement so that I can take the opportunity to add if I may to your absolutely correct statement:
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Great. Obviously you are in no position to prove any state of the past or future using present state science. If you want to make up creation stories to cover the embarrassment, that is fine.
 
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The future and past are made of Strawberry Custard. I dare you to prove otherwise!
Chase your own pink elephants. Here, we care what is evidenced and known. A present state in the past or distant universe is no more known than your on the fly made up fables.
 
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Chase your own pink elephants. Here, we care what is evidenced and known. A present state in the past or distant universe is no more known than your on the fly made up fables.
Why chase pink elephants when polka dotted ones are prevalent and more pretty:confused:
 
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Chase your own pink elephants. Here, we care what is evidenced and known. A present state in the past or distant universe is no more known than your on the fly made up fables.

So you can't prove it wasn't strawberry custard, therefore, it's as valid as anyhting you've said for as long as you've been here.

Don't lash out at me because of your own shortcomings, David.
 
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Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
That isn't an answer to my question.

That some did not notice doesn't tell us if they are indistinguishable from humans or not.

I may well have used a counterfeit banknote this week without realising, that doesn't make it a genuine banknote.
 
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That isn't an answer to my question.
Why should I start now?

You asked if angels are indistinguishable from humans, and I quoted a verse of Scripture that says they are.

In other words, yes -- at times they are indistinguishable from humans.
 
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Why should I start now?

You asked if angels are indistinguishable from humans, and I quoted a verse of Scripture that says they are.

In other words, yes -- at times they are indistinguishable from humans.

And the big question is -- why is that important? Because it's a parable of reciprocity.

In nomadic cultures like the Hebrews, hospitality was more than a courtesy, it could be a matter of life and death. The Greeks, as seafarers, had similar beliefs, knowing that whenever they sailed into a strange port, their lives were in their hosts' hands.

So it's no surprise that both cultures' stories are rife with cautionary tales about bad houseguests or hosts getting the business via divine retribution.

Homer's Odyssey is a great source of examples, and the verse in Hebrews you just quoted could very well be a reference to Sodom and Gomorrah, long before the Christians misrread the myth and turned it into a warning against homosexuality when it wasn't supported by the text.

Any way you slice it, there's a lot of meat on the bone.
 
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Homer's Odyssey is a great source of examples, and the verse in Hebrews you just quoted could very well be a reference to Sodom and Gomorrah, long before the Christians misrread the myth and turned it into a warning against homosexuality when it wasn't supported by the text.
You've got myth and Scripture so intertwined, you can't tell them apart, can you?
 
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So you can't prove it wasn't strawberry custard, therefore, it's as valid as anyhting you've said for as long as you've been here.

Don't lash out at me because of your own shortcomings, David.
My sig pics bigger than yours...I win.
 
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Unless all men are 100% god, that's a logical contradiction, I think :scratch:

Only one immature bird fossil? These are only the non-avian dinosaurs with evidence for feathers. Many more species are known in which feathers (or their correlates) are not preserved but which are otherwise nearly identical to creatures on the list.

Add to that numerous well-preserved birds* that lived alongside other dinosaurs. There's no similar Wikipedia list of them, but a fair few pop up among these search results.

The funny thing? It's really hard to tell where "dinosaur" ends and "bird" begins. That's why things like Archaeopteryx move back and forth around the origin of birds when people do phylogenetic analyses.

...'fraid it's a little more than "one immature bird fossil".

*"Birds" is a horribly ill-defined term when it comes to these early forms. I'm using it very roughly in this sense.

That was not what I asked. I asked you what defining feature of animals was missing from humans.

You know, like: are we multicellular? Do we move? Do we eat other living things?

That sort of thing. Can you find one that animals in general have, but we don't?

It's not that simple to shut me up, as you probably know. Nice try, though...

I don't see a connection. Is every animal with a unique feature no longer an animal?

I am not sure when did those fake birds appeared. I guess it is in late Cretaceous. So, what did evolution do to the dinosaur during Triassic and Jurassic time? And why did dinosaurs "wait" till Cretaceous to change?

Fire is not part of us. Raise fire is not a unique function of our body. We do not need fire to survive.
 
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