"I'm not an expert, BUT......."

[Doveaman]

God has said nothing about evolution

No kidding.

If its a duck than it is a duck, despite your unreasonable interpretation of scripture.

It's not a duck. That's the point. It only looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, so it is reasonable to conclude it is a duck. But flawed reasoning nevertheless.

If your interpretation of scripture conflicts with our observations, then clearly it is your interpretation of scripture which is the problem!

Scientific theories are not observations. They are fallible human interpretations of observations. And the interpretations are often biased against the records of history.

 

[Doveaman]

In other words, you ignore those observations.

No. We ignore your fallible human interpretation of those observations

 

[Doveaman]

I've read it several times and I'm missing the part where it talks about a nested hierarchy. Could you clarify how this verse relates to nested hierarchies?

It doesn't. That's the point.

The verses describe the first modern human being made directly from the earth and all other modern humans descended from him. This contradicts your theory, therefore your theory can take a hike.

 

[Split Rock]

No kidding.
It's not a duck. That's the point. It only looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, so it is reasonable to conclude it is a duck. But flawed reasoning nevertheless.
Scientific theories are not observations. They are fallible human interpretations of observations. And the interpretations are often biased against the records of history.

No. We ignore your fallible human interpretation of those observations

So, our interpretations of observations are fallible, but your interpretation of scripture is not?

 

[Split Rock]

It doesn't. That's the point.

The verses describe the first modern human being made directly from the earth and all other modern humans descended from him. This contradicts your theory, therefore your theory can take a hike.

No, your flawed theology can take a hike.

 

[Doveaman]

[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] that preacher is kick-boxing the crap out of those poor christians!!! Haha by far the best vid i've seen with that damn drowning pool song!

Making fun of us isn't going to cause us to go away, but it will cause you to go away.

 

[Doveaman]

Actually, no. If I understand Genesis correctly, it is not mentioned wherefrom animals are made. Only when Adam is created, the substance is mentioned.

So let's settle this whole evolution argument by a compromise.

I'll accept the animals evolved if you accept that Adam/Man didn't.

 

[Doveaman]

So, our interpretations of observations are fallible, but your interpretation of scripture is not?

Read my sig.

 

[Doveaman]

That is not to say we are spiritually animals

I am of the view that if we are not animals spiritually then we are not animals, period.

What is Man? Is he a body who has a spirit, or is he a spirit within a body? Or is he a combination of both?

 

[Split Rock]

Read my sig.

Evade, evade, evade. Your sig does not answer my question. One more time: So, our interpretations of observations are fallible, but your interpretation of scripture is not? Yes or No?

 

[mzungu]

It doesn't. That's the point.

The verses describe the first modern human being made directly from the earth and all other modern humans descended from him. This contradicts your theory, therefore your theory can take a hike.

Let me get this straight: If Adam and Eve were the only humans and they had 2 children (both boys) and one was murdered by his brother, thus leaving the father (Adam), the Mother (Eve) and the only surviving son (Cain). Then how on earth did all of humanity come from those 3? The only way this can happen is through incest!

You have no empirical evidence and your bronze age mythology does not constitute evidence especially as scientific evidence.

Believe what you want. After all it is your right; But do not insult our intelligence by insisting that creationism is above science!

 

[Jazer]

Then how on earth did all of humanity come from those 3?

Perhaps you may want to read your Bible. For some reason people skip over all the geneologys. The Bible does not claim any more people then what is listed in the geneologys came from Adam and Eve. People read things into it that are not there. The decendants of Adam and Eve are the Hebrews, the Jewish people. This is their history book. All the rest were adopted into the family. We were grafted into the tree. We are not the Biological decendants of Abraham. Unless it is though a handmaid somewhere. But only the children of Abrahams wife Sarah count as the children of the promise. The Children that Abraham had with the other women fall under a different promise and a different covenant. Perhaps this is all to difficult for you to grasp the concept of right now. But perhaps someday you will understand. Perhaps someday Science will catchup with the Bible and they will be able to explain it to you. Or perhaps someday you will actually read the Bible rather than to fight against the God that created you. So you can perhaps come to a saving knowledge of the truth and come out of all your lies, deception and falsehoods. So you can walk in the light and not in darkness.

 

[Nostromo]

So let's settle this whole evolution argument by a compromise.

I'll accept the animals evolved if you accept that Adam/Man didn't.

I love your integrity

 

[Naraoia]

So let's settle this whole evolution argument by a compromise.

I'll accept the animals evolved if you accept that Adam/Man didn't.

Reality isn't a diplomat

 

[sfs]

Perhaps you may want to read your Bible. For some reason people skip over all the geneologys. The Bible does not claim any more people then what is listed in the geneologys came from Adam and Eve.

"Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living."

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

So let's settle this whole evolution argument by a compromise.

I'll accept the animals evolved if you accept that Adam/Man didn't.

It's weird how you guys must think of reality.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's weird how you guys must think of reality.

It's weird how you guys must think of the past.

 

[Doveaman]

Let me get this straight: If Adam and Eve were the only humans and they had 2 children (both boys) and one was murdered by his brother, thus leaving the father (Adam), the Mother (Eve) and the only surviving son (Cain). Then how on earth did all of humanity come from those 3? The only way this can happen is through incest!

Since when was incest forbidden?

If you and your sister were the only two people left on earth after a global catastrophe would you choose to procreate, or go extinct?

 

[Nostromo]

Since when was incest forbidden?

That explains a lot. (pardon the pun)

But seriously, Leviticus 18:6 maybe?

 

[sfs]

Let me get this straight: If Adam and Eve were the only humans and they had 2 children (both boys) and one was murdered by his brother, thus leaving the father (Adam), the Mother (Eve) and the only surviving son (Cain). Then how on earth did all of humanity come from those 3? The only way this can happen is through incest!

Note that Adam and Eve had other children. (Still requires incest, just a different variety.)