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Liberal Christianity at it's best tries to act like Christ apart from acknowledging the need for the new birth and indwelling Holy Spirit.
Originally Posted by J Gresham Machen, 1923
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The modern liberal preacher reverences Jesus; he has the name of Jesus forever on his lips; he speaks of Jesus as the supreme revelation of God; he enters, or tries to enter, into the religious life of Jesus. But he does not stand in a religious relation to Jesus. Jesus for him is an example for faith, not the object of faith. The modern liberal tries to have faith in God like the faith which he supposes Jesus had in God; but he does not have faith in Jesus.[/FONT]
This is True. I read "The Celestine Prophecy" and this was the watershed moment in my life when I abandoned the dabbling in moral relativism and recognized Jesus as Absolute Truth.
Wholeheartedly agree with both statements.Liberalism dropped the ball when they decided to spit on Troops coming home from Vietnam and calling them all babykillers.
Wholeheartedly agree with both statements.
I couldn't even *understand* "The Celestine Prophecy." Bunch of gibberish, much like the works of one L. Ron Hubbard.....


oh please don't say "outside the box"....ROFL
It was at that point where I knew, everything that moral relativism and sad to say liberalism stands for, is rooted in M.R.(moral relativism) talk to pretty much almost any liberal and you will see this.. there isn't Absolute Truth to them, and in fact they hate it, because it is so "closed minded".

oh please don't say "outside the box"....
*pet peeve alert*
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Noted, agreed with.To Lovebirds,
I don't want to make this into an anti liberal thread.... it's easy for me to do with my strong feelings against liberalism.
Just hope you feel welcome here and enjoy chatting w/ you in future threads
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"There are no absolutes," is an absolute.ROFL
It was at that point where I knew, everything that moral relativism and sad to say liberalism stands for, is rooted in M.R.(moral relativism) talk to pretty much almost any liberal and you will see this.. there isn't Absolute Truth to them, and in fact they hate it, because it is so "closed minded".
I already made one lolRep Daddy really wants them to make a CF Pet Peeve for us here. "Outside the Box" would make a great name for one.
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Request is here: New CF Pet Type
In the past I have not felt welcome to post in Conservative or Fundamentalist areas. This is no longer the case.
I am a religious fundamentalist, a social liberal, but firm in my beliefs for Christ. I am now getting to where I relate more to the conservatives. I have so many liberal Christian friends. They are good-hearted. I respect liberal Christianity for what it is supposed to be: a reflection of Christ welcoming the lost with open arms, saving their souls and embracing them into fellowship with Him. But this isn't what I'm seeing happen lately. In very short leaps, "liberal Christian" can become "borderline Christian, but also affirming non-Christian beliefs." Then "borderline Christian" leads to "non-Christian," which quickly becomes "anti-Christian." And if I have to choose between pleasing people, and pleasing God, which will I choose?
If you will, despite the fact that I still believe government has no business regulating who can marry whom (church has every right, but government should not), please count me among the conservatives.
I feel like I've just cut off a limb...

In the past I have not felt welcome to post in Conservative or Fundamentalist areas. This is no longer the case.
I am a religious fundamentalist, a social liberal, but firm in my beliefs for Christ. I am now getting to where I relate more to the conservatives. I have so many liberal Christian friends. They are good-hearted. I respect liberal Christianity for what it is supposed to be: a reflection of Christ welcoming the lost with open arms, saving their souls and embracing them into fellowship with Him. But this isn't what I'm seeing happen lately. In very short leaps, "liberal Christian" can become "borderline Christian, but also affirming non-Christian beliefs." Then "borderline Christian" leads to "non-Christian," which quickly becomes "anti-Christian." And if I have to choose between pleasing people, and pleasing God, which will I choose?
If you will, despite the fact that I still believe government has no business regulating who can marry whom (church has every right, but government should not), please count me among the conservatives.
I feel like I've just cut off a limb...

Welcome, I've recently jumped shipped as well... Like you I was socially liberal and very conservative in my own personal life. I'm noticing though that as I grow deeper in my faith that I'm becoming more socially conservative as well... to the point where I was no longer feeling welcome at a message board I posted at formerly. (a non-Christian board where I was accepted probably because I was SO socially liberal)


for Des.Is it different in CC than you expected?for Des.
For the record, I'm beginning to feel less like I've cut off a limb, and more like I've thrown off a weight.
