I'm Homeless But I'm Happy

[trentlogain2]

Urban, now all you need is Christ. How much have you thought about it?

 

[Shabby]

bacon2, keep on posting the realness. Your words are true and powerful, meaning that your words are also of God. U have realized that economics is one of the most useful weapons for the forces of evil

Says the crazy homeless guy on the corner who barely has two pennies to rub together. People who can't make money are always the first to swear it's evil.

 

[Macx]

Well there is that.

I am guessing Taku60 and Urban Monk didn't grow up during the Cold War. They seem to have no memory of what the Com Bloc was like under the Commies, when ditch diggers and doctors made nearly the same wages . . . which sounds all fair and groovy if everybody made doctor wages, but that wasn't how it played out. There was no substantial award for working harder, for studying longer, for being smarter .. . why spend the time learning to be an engineer, if you can draw about the same wages for pulling a lever down at the dowicket factory? So they didn't, and pretty soon they were almost completely dependant on technology stolen from the West. Pretty sad. Eventually, they came around . . . That'd be why globes with USSR on them are harder & harder to find and the Berlin Wall is nothing but a tourist site now.

There are history books that can help with the malady Taku and Urban seem to have. Being "doomed to repeat", is an easily remedied ailment.

 

[marlowe007]

Yes, this is very inspiring Urban Monk. There are many verses in scripture which commend this sort of lifestyle.

Funny thing about capitalism.....it doesn't care whether you're an adherent or not. If you don't get $, by hook or by crook, you don't eat and you can't live. By the way that pertains to Holy Joes who hold themselves above the Mere Pursuit of Mammon, too.

And if you want to start a family, and have nice stuff? Well, like it or not, that requires the active practice of capitalism.

 

[Shabby]

Funny thing about capitalism.....it doesn't care whether you're an adherent or not. If you don't get $, by hook or by crook, you don't eat and you can't live. By the way that pertains to Holy Joes who hold themselves above the Mere Pursuit of Mammon, too.

And if you want to start a family, and have nice stuff? Well, like it or not, that requires the active practice of capitalism.

In other words, you have to work for what you want. That is certainly the basic premise of everything that is evil!

 

[Macx]

Sarcasm is hard to convey in text, but . ... well done!

 

[marlowe007]

In other words, you have to work for what you want. That is certainly the basic premise of everything that is evil!

The OP probably models himself after St. Francis of Assisi, who followed the example of the apostles and gave up all material possessions, wandered the streets and contemplated.

The first forms of work deemed acceptable for the medieval monks were baking bread, gardening and brewing beer. Indeed, the old Catholic church viewed overwork with suspicion, seeing it as a lack of faith in God's Providence (in other words, hard work means taking your destiny into your own hands rather than simply letting things happen - you are, in a sense, competing with God).

In the 17th and 18th centuries, however, a new work ethic was introduced. The fun-hating Puritans closed the theatres and took down the maypoles; and then came the Methodists. Both these groups saw life as a serious business and believed that God wanted you to toil.

As for my part, I don't think the intentionally homeless should be made to feel guilty for what is for them a noble pursuit, as well as something enjoyable and creative.

 

[Macx]

The OP probably models himself after St. Francis of Assisi, who followed the examples of the apostles and gave up all material possessions, wandered the streets and contemplated.

The first forms of work deemed acceptable for the medieval monks were baking bread, gardening and brewing beer. Indeed, the old Catholic church viewed overwork with suspicion, seeing it as a lack of faith in God's Providence (in other words, hard work means taking your destiny into your own hands rather than simply letting things happen - you are, in a sense, competing with God).

In the 17th and 18th centuries, however, a new work ethic was introduced. The fun-hating Puritans closed the theatres and took down the maypoles; and then came the Methodists. Both these groups saw life as a serious business and believed that God wanted you to toil.

As for my part, I don't think the intentionally homeless should be made to feel guilty for what is for them a noble pursuit, as well as something enjoyable and creative.

Agreed and well spoken.

I'd only add that the choice to take up a life like that is no excuse to demonize the productive and the hard working. The body has many parts, not all are called to be ascetics.

 

[Shabby]

The OP probably models himself after St. Francis of Assisi, who followed the example of the apostles and gave up all material possessions, wandered the streets and contemplated.

The first forms of work deemed acceptable for the medieval monks were baking bread, gardening and brewing beer. Indeed, the old Catholic church viewed overwork with suspicion, seeing it as a lack of faith in God's Providence (in other words, hard work means taking your destiny into your own hands rather than simply letting things happen - you are, in a sense, competing with God).

In the 17th and 18th centuries, however, a new work ethic was introduced. The fun-hating Puritans closed the theatres and took down the maypoles; and then came the Methodists. Both these groups saw life as a serious business and believed that God wanted you to toil.

As for my part, I don't think the intentionally homeless should be made to feel guilty for what is for them a noble pursuit, as well as something enjoyable and creative.

I have no problem with being homeless, I have a problem with someone who is homeless critiquing the capitalist system as if it is "keeping them down". If you don't want to work, don't work. But don't expect to be able to have the type of lifestyle you want.

Also, human beings by nature are working creatures. If you think people didn't work before the 17th and 18th century you've never spent time on a farm.

 

[Urban Monk]

Yes, this is very inspiring Urban Monk. There are many verses in scripture which commend this sort of lifestyle.

Interesting, can u tell me some of the verses

 

[pressingon17]

Just because I'm a person of faith doesn't mean I have to be all lovey-dovey. Especially when you're talking highly about a lifestyle I had to live through through myself which was one of my worst experiences in life and speaking of it as an enjoyable lifestyle. Though you do have one thing I didn't when I was homeless: money.

Hey dude,i think your on too something,seriously,as Americans we're spoiled rotten.Oh,to the person i quoted,just to let you know that as a person of "faith"you should be loving to everyone,and also,Jesus was homeless,as the Bible says, "He had no place to lay His head".and he had not a cent to His name.

 

[Kaonashi]

Anyone else smell trolls?

 

[marlowe007]

Interesting, can u tell me some of the verses

Do you own a Bible? Scripture is loaded with passages encouraging us to live modestly. These include (to name few): Matthew 6:19-25, Matthew 6:31-33, Luke 12:22-31, Luke 16:19-31, Luke 18:22, Romans 12:2.

 

[kuyura]

Whats up guys? OK check out my situation. I don't have a house or apartment 2 live in. I stay in city parks and sleep in my car. I use a car power inverter for electricity. I also use outlets in parks for electricity. I still deal with women ( more on that later ) I'm homeless but I'm happy. Hopefully I can inspire people who make low income.

Now some may say that this is insanity, but I say its pleasure. How? u may ask. Because I don't have any bills 2 pay. Its a headache having 2 give your hard earned cash to landlords and utility companies. I keep a fair amount of money plus I don't have to worry about having to wait too long to save up just in case of a car emergency. I get to have fun everyday because I can shop how I want to, eat what I want to, and go hang out like I want to at clubs, bars, and any other social events.

My family seem to have a problem with this. They say that this is foolish and dangerous. They feel that I can easily get killed by staying in parks and sleeping in a car. Well here is how I feel, my family never really cared too much about me anyway. My parents didn't raise me right, I wasn't eating properly when I was a child. They didn't spend a whole lot of time with me. They didn't show me how to be a good person. They just didn't care.

And guess what, my dad is a millionaire. And he's a deacon in the church. He just never cared about supporting me financially even when I was a child. I know that was messed up, but I'm a let God deal with him with that situation. I hardly even go 2 my parents house. I honestly wouldn't care if he died.

Now pay attention to something. If u notice, I'm not complaining about how my dad doesn't help me out. I'm simply handling my situaution on my own even though it may be extreme. I'm aware that my dad could have just gave me some money to go to college or he could have just gave me a job at his business, but I'm not complaining. I'm just trying 2 see why they are criticizing me for the way I live. I don't even talk about this situaution with my parents, I just know they don't like how I'm living because my Grandma told me. I don't even answer the phone if my Mom or dad calls me.

I only make about $1,500 a month, so I don't want a house or apartment because the bills will eat up my money. I wanna know how do u guys feel about me living like this. U got to think about it, giving all your money to landlords and utility companies is misery. Being able to spend your money how u want to is pure pleasure.

I don't have any desire for a luxury house and I also don't have any desire
for people accepting and respecting me. The reason I say this is because I know that some people will think that I'm foolish 4 this. But I don't care. What does another person's perspective of me have 2 do with my happiness. Also, God has blessed me with true friends who don't mind the way I live.


Please tell me how u all feel about my lifestyle.

wow, that is awesome. I wish I could live like this, I'm so sick of the mundane bill paying crap life.

 

[Urban Monk]

wow, that is awesome. I wish I could live like this, I'm so sick of the mundane bill paying crap life.

I believe if people would just unite and change the whole economic system, then everyone can live comfortably with paying bills. What I'm saying is if we fired our politicians and replaced them with people who knows what struggling is all about, then I feel the economy will be fair, and paying bills will no longer seem like an adventure to anyone

 

[Macx]

It sounds like you are saying:

The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an
end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has
pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to
his "natural superiors," and has left remaining no other nexus
between man and man than naked self-interest, than callous "cash
payment." It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of
religious fervour, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine
sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It
has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of
the numberless and feasible chartered freedoms, has set up that
single, unconscionable freedom--Free Trade. In one word, for
exploitation, veiled by religious and political illusions, naked,
shameless, direct, brutal exploitation.

The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation
hitherto honoured and looked up to with reverent awe. It has
converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the
man of science, into its paid wage labourers.

The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental
veil, and has reduced the family relation to a mere money
relation.

 

[Shabby]

wow, that is awesome. I wish I could live like this, I'm so sick of the mundane bill paying crap life.

You can, just stop paying those bills and you'll be in the same situation as him.

This is what happens when wages do not keep up with the costs of living, once enough people are displaced by the greedy upper class you will have a revolution. As long as there are avenues to creating a good life for yourself all will be well but as tuition costs rise and the gates to higher education are slowly closed more and more will be displaced and the path to a good life will be blocked. So long as the have nots are still intellegant people this creates a perfect storm for a revolution or a civil war. It would be interesting to study the great depression and find out why it did not result in a violent revolution, maybe its because everyone took a hit even the rich people, where as today its more of a mythodical dividing line between haves and have nots.

Wages are in fact keeping up with costs of living, but most Americans think that a minimum wage job should entitle them to a two-bedroom home completely with two cars, two kids, and satellite TV. You have to know your ability to provide and work within it.

 

[kuyura]

You can, just stop paying those bills and you'll be in the same situation as him.
.

If I didn't have a son, I would.

 

[Urban Monk]

What happened to bacon2's comments? He was really making a lot of sense

 

[Shabby]

If I didn't have a son, I would.

It's sad to realize that someone is parenting who thinks that living out of a car would be a satisfying life. Hopefully you want more for your child.