Illegal Aliens allowed to be cops ?

[USincognito]

Do these leftist organizations write "fan fiction" as well?

The AP and NBC news are leftist organizations in your mind? My stars man! Can words mean anything one wishes in Conservistan?

 

[Ana the Ist]

I think it actually is designed to more closely match federal public service standards (ie the military)

Really?

and answer the decades-predicted police shortage issue.

The decades predicted police shortage issue.....first time I've heard of it.

Vallas: Chicago Police overtime cost $126M, plus cost of burn-out

One way to “defund the police” is by not hiring officers – a strategy supported by many in Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson’s camp. The problem is, failing to hire more officers is backfiring. It leads to higher costs, some of which are very hard to count but easy to see.

www.illinoispolicy.org

Ironically, it's costing more money to have less police, and they're less effective because they're overworked. It doesn't help that these woke DAs like Foxx, Bragg, Gaston, and others seem more interested in helping criminals than in helping victims.

What's the decades old police shortage issue?

 

[Aldebaran]

The AP and NBC news are leftist organizations in your mind? My stars man! Can words mean anything one wishes in Conservistan?

Apparently also in the minds of those who study such things.

NBC News Digital Media Bias Rating

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Associated Press Media Bias Rating

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www.allsides.com

Any other questions?

 

[Pommer]

Fascinating claim given that under President Biden, illegal crossings are down 70%

Migrant encounters down 70% since end of Title 42, US official says

Migrant encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border have dropped 70% since COVID-era border restrictions ended last week, U.S. Homeland Security official Blas Nunez-Neto said on Friday.

www.reuters.com

Biden’s not doing anything about the border crisis!

Down 70%

Why’d it take Biden so long to do something about the border crisis?

Rinse, repeat.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Really?





The decades predicted police shortage issue.....first time I've heard of it.

Vallas: Chicago Police overtime cost $126M, plus cost of burn-out

One way to “defund the police” is by not hiring officers – a strategy supported by many in Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson’s camp. The problem is, failing to hire more officers is backfiring. It leads to higher costs, some of which are very hard to count but easy to see.

www.illinoispolicy.org

Ironically, it's costing more money to have less police, and they're less effective because they're overworked. It doesn't help that these woke DAs like Foxx, Bragg, Gaston, and others seem more interested in helping criminals than in helping victims.

What's the decades old police shortage issue?

When I worked in the law enforcement sector back in the mid 2000s, we were acutely aware that the number of people applying for police positions was falling dramatically. We changed and loosened qualifications (dropped the requirement you had to live in the municipality, for example) and had huge hiring bonuses. We had a task force assembled in 2005ish that identified and tried to rectify barriers to hiring. Statistically we learned that the Rodney King incident was a pivot point that started the decline of interest in being a police officer, especially among minorities.

I will readily admit that 2020 and beyond led to a freefall of police applications/candidates, but in the industry, we’d identified it as a problem decades ago. It’s a problem that is only going to get worse over the next few years, unfortunately, as funding flatlines and the demands we make on officers increase to unsustainable levels. Police need more money, more help, and more support services both for those they deal with and themselves on and off the clock.

As for the “woke” thing, that’s a term that causes me to roll my eyes and just tap out. People on both sides of the political spectrum marginalize police and mishandle criminal and/or victim support issues as well as officer support needs. Being harder on criminals is great, but it applies more pressure to under supported penal law enforcement officers, who are also struggling. And the conservative side is generally more favorable of police funding, but not support services which are as vital and in some cases more.

 

[durangodawood]

As soon as I saw the thread title, I knew: false or lie.

 

[public hermit]

Apparently also in the minds of those who study such things.

NBC News Digital Media Bias Rating

Learn the AllSides Media Bias Rating of NBC News Digital. AllSides rates the media bias of hundreds of news outlets, media sources and writers.

www.allsides.com

Associated Press Media Bias Rating

Learn the AllSides Media Bias Rating of Associated Press. AllSides rates the media bias of hundreds of news outlets, media sources and writers.

www.allsides.com

Any other questions?

According to that, the AP is simply on the reasonable side of center. What news sources do you use for information?

 

[Nithavela]

"Support the blue, but not like that".

 

[Aldebaran]

According to that, the AP is simply on the reasonable side of center. What news sources do you use for information?

If they were reasonable, they would be in the center, and not left-biased.

 

[durangodawood]

If they were reasonable, they would be in the center, and not left-biased.

Reasonable would be reality-centered.

But from time to time the left or the right - or sometimes both - depart from reality. We're in a time now when the right has made the biggest swerve toward fantasy.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Reasonable would be reality-centered.

But from time to time the left or the right - or sometimes both - depart from reality. We're in a time now when the right has made the biggest swerve toward fantasy.

With all due respect, I'd say that attribute is very "topic-dependent"

The right's detachment from reality may be "higher profile" due the nature of the news cycle and stories they choose to highlight and cover, but I can point out instances of both side being detached from reality.

 

[BurningBush84]

Illinois Gov. Signs Law Allowing Illegal Immigrants To Be Police

Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker has signed more than 130 bills into law including one that would allow foreigners with work permits, some of whom are illegal aliens, to become police officers in the state.

www.oann.com

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Illinois Gov. Signs Law Allowing Illegal Immigrants To Be Police

Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker has signed more than 130 bills into law including one that would allow foreigners with work permits, some of whom are illegal aliens, to become police officers in the state.

www.oann.com

An OAN pundit (who's using a self-contradicting statement no less) doesn't count as a citation.

What the actual law says:
Federal law requires an immigrant to have an Employment Authorization Document (EAD), or work permit, to lawfully work in the states. However, undocumented immigrants do not have that document due to their immigration status. Some other classes of immigrants legally allowed to be in the U.S. are also not permitted to work, such as tourist visa holders.

To obtain an EAD, an individual can file form I-765, Application for Employment Authorization. Undocumented immigrants cannot apply for a work permit.


I try to make common sense arguments for certain conservative positions on these forums because I feel there are some excesses of the left that need to be curtailed, but threads like these with blatantly false information and substance reduced to OAN pundits making false claims makes my job harder.

Or, to put it more succinctly... You're not helping.

 

[BurningBush84]

An OAN pundit (who's using a self-contradicting statement no less) doesn't count as a citation.

What the actual law says:
Federal law requires an immigrant to have an Employment Authorization Document (EAD), or work permit, to lawfully work in the states. However, undocumented immigrants do not have that document due to their immigration status. Some other classes of immigrants legally allowed to be in the U.S. are also not permitted to work, such as tourist visa holders.

To obtain an EAD, an individual can file form I-765, Application for Employment Authorization. Undocumented immigrants cannot apply for a work permit.


I try to make common sense arguments for certain conservative positions on these forums because I feel there are some excesses of the left that need to be curtailed, but threads like these with blatantly false information and substance reduced to OAN pundits making false claims makes my job harder.

Or, to put it more succinctly... You're not helping.

The law do

An OAN pundit (who's using a self-contradicting statement no less) doesn't count as a citation.

What the actual law says:
Federal law requires an immigrant to have an Employment Authorization Document (EAD), or work permit, to lawfully work in the states. However, undocumented immigrants do not have that document due to their immigration status. Some other classes of immigrants legally allowed to be in the U.S. are also not permitted to work, such as tourist visa holders.

To obtain an EAD, an individual can file form I-765, Application for Employment Authorization. Undocumented immigrants cannot apply for a work permit.


I try to make common sense arguments for certain conservative positions on these forums because I feel there are some excesses of the left that need to be curtailed, but threads like these with blatantly false information and substance reduced to OAN pundits making false claims makes my job harder.

Or, to put it more succinctly... You're not helping.

Unfortunately, most people don't wake up until AFTER they arrive in Hades .

 

[durangodawood]

With all due respect, I'd say that attribute is very "topic-dependent"

The right's detachment from reality may be "higher profile" due the nature of the news cycle and stories they choose to highlight and cover, but I can point out instances of both side being detached from reality.

Oh for sure, theres elements of lefty politics and thinking that are pretty "out there".
-elements of thought policing.
-extremes of identity politics at the far left.

But for sheer consequence they have nothing on the right at this time.
-the near mainstream acceptance of the stolen election lie.
-political violence polling with near center right acceptance.
-reliance on media that not just biased, but flat out lying as standard practice.
-climate denial thats simply absurd.

The roles have been reversed at various times in history. But now we're in an era when the right's flight from reality is mainstream and massively consequential. They are untethered in shockingly important ways. The lefts dalliance with fantasy is small potatoes. by comparison.

 

[Desk trauma]

Illinois Gov. Signs Law Allowing Illegal Immigrants To Be Police

Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker has signed more than 130 bills into law including one that would allow foreigners with work permits, some of whom are illegal aliens, to become police officers in the state.

www.oann.com

Doubling down again.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Oh for sure, theres elements of lefty politics and thinking that are pretty "out there".
-elements of thought policing.
-extremes of identity politics at the far left.

But for sheer consequence they have nothing on the right at this time.
-the near mainstream acceptance of the stolen election lie.
-political violence polling with near center right acceptance.
-reliance on media that not just biased, but flat out lying as standard practice.
-climate denial thats simply absurd.

The roles have been reversed at various times in history. But now we're in an era when the right's flight from reality is mainstream and massively consequential. They are untethered in shockingly important ways. The lefts dalliance with fantasy is small potatoes. by comparison.

I won't argue with the climate change aspect...the members of the right who still believe it's not real are 100% wrong.

But your list for the the left is a little light.

There are people on the left who will call you a bigot if you have any objection to this or claim it's unfair (even if your position on Trans issues are nuanced like mine are)

There are people on the left who will riot in order to get speaker shut down at Berkely...(even if that speaker just happens to be center left instead of full left, like Bill Maher)

Calls for defunding the police thinking that's somehow a solution to issues in the inner cities.

Certain public schools incorporating the 1619 project (or similar works) into curriculums, despite factual inaccuracies.

Rejection of nuclear power is a popular idea among the left (when it's actually a great alternative to fossil fuels...but they're deadset on thinking solar panels and windmills will save us from global warming)


I think the best way to describe it is that while the right may occupy the "meat of the misinformation", the left occupies both ends of the bell curve.

I get it, the election lie is a big one...but there's a lot of other issues out there that can have just as big of a negative impact on our society if allowed to run wild and unchecked.

 

[Pommer]

The law do


Unfortunately, most people don't wake up until AFTER they arrive in Hades .

Wait, being “woke” is “a good thing” now (again)?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

The AP and NBC news are leftist organizations in your mind? My stars man! Can words mean anything one wishes in Conservistan?

NBC skews a bit left, but AP is what I would consider to be centrist...not sure why they'd be claiming that the AP is a leftist organization (unless they see "leftist" as "anything left of center-right")

 

[Arcangl86]

Illinois Gov. Signs Law Allowing Illegal Immigrants To Be Police

Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker has signed more than 130 bills into law including one that would allow foreigners with work permits, some of whom are illegal aliens, to become police officers in the state.

www.oann.com

It is true that some people with work permits are here illegally. DACA is the example that comes immediately to mind. But the law also requires that the potential officer be able to carry a firearm under federal law. People here illegally cannot do so, thus they cannot become law enforcement officers.