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Illegal Aliens allowed to be cops ?

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First they dropped the term "illegal aliens". Now they are dropping the term "undocumented migrants". They are calling illegal aliens "migrants".

What's the difference between a "migrant" and a "non-citizen" ???

When borders are wide open there is no such thing as illegal aliens. They are now called "migrants" or "non-citizens".
I see you consistently ignoring where it has been pointed out that the non-citizens eligible to apply are here legally with work visas.
 
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What's the difference between a "migrant" and a "non-citizen" ???
Per the bill in your OP non-citizens in this case refers to legal immigrants with authorization to work in the US.
 
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I don't see anything terribly controversial about this.

I think it shows how desperate they are for police after the devastation of 2020 and damage done for years before.
 
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Per the bill in your OP non-citizens in this case refers to legal immigrants with authorization to work in the US.

I think it's more likely referring to permanent residents who aren't citizens....not merely people here on temporary work visas.
 
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What's the difference between a "migrant" and a "non-citizen" ???
A legal non-citizen is someone who's applied for a work permit/visa and is allowed to work and reside in the US via normal and legal channels.
 
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I think it shows how desperate they are for police after the devastation of 2020 and damage done for years before.
Non-citizens with work visas gladly take on jobs nobody else wants to do pretty regularly, not sure why this one particular job (that people are wanting to do less and less) should be any different provided the person meets the criteria, can meet the physical requirements, and has a clean criminal background check.
 
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So I'll take that as you acknowledging that your comment about "illegal immigrants" was misleading and you're withdrawing it?

Secondly, why is that "common sense"? You'll need to quantify that.

Is a person who's here legally on a work visa, is physically fit, trained, and passed a background check (and who knows, maybe even worked in law enforcement in their country before applying for a visa and coming here?) not qualified apprehend & detain a person who's robbing a Chicago Walgreens?

I don't think they're apprehending people for robbing Walgreens. I think Chicago is one of those cities that's been turning such thieves back out on the streets because of various reforms in bail and other such nonsense. I think they've already lost 2 Walmarts because of it....maybe 3.
 
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Non-citizens with work visas gladly take on jobs nobody else wants to do pretty regularly, not sure why this one particular job (that people are wanting to do less and less) should be any different provided the person meets the criteria, can meet the physical requirements, and has a clean criminal background check.

Don't get me wrong....it'll be refreshing to see someone from another country try to explain that he should have a right to defend himself and shouldn't be on trial for murder.

Perhaps then we'll finally get that talk about police and race so many people insisted that we needed to have.
 
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First they dropped the term "illegal aliens". Now they are dropping the term "undocumented migrants". They are calling illegal aliens "migrants".

What's the difference between a "migrant" and a "non-citizen" ???

When borders are wide open there is no such thing as illegal aliens. They are now called "migrants" or "non-citizens".
So you’re not going to amend the thread title?
 
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First they dropped the term "illegal aliens". Now they are dropping the term "undocumented migrants". They are calling illegal aliens "migrants".

What's the difference between a "migrant" and a "non-citizen" ???

When borders are wide open there is no such thing as illegal aliens. They are now called "migrants" or "non-citizens".

All people in this country illegally are non-citizens.

Most non-citizens are not here illegally.

All illegal migrants/aliens are non-citizens. Not all non-citizens are illegal aliens. The overwhelming number of non-citizens are here legally.
 
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I think it shows how desperate they are for police after the devastation of 2020 and damage done for years before.
I think it actually is designed to more closely match federal public service standards (ie the military) and answer the decades-predicted police shortage issue.
 
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Mainstream media dropped the term "illegal immigrant" and replaced it with"undocumented migrant". Which proves Democrats are all for open borders.
Fascinating claim given that under President Biden, illegal crossings are down 70%
 
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There has been a mass migration of illegals crossing the southern border ever since Biden took over. How are all these millions upon millions of illegal aliens surviving ???
They're being hired to work for Republican voting businessmen who love cheap, illegal labor in construction, agriculture, housekeeping, hospitality and tourism industries.

Simple, they are now called "non-citizens" instead of illegal aliens.
I read the weirdest fan fiction on this forum.
 
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They're being hired to work for Republican voting businessmen who love cheap, illegal labor in construction, agriculture, housekeeping, hospitality and tourism industries.


I read the weirdest fan fiction on this forum.
You'll also find it in the Associated Press:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Employees of the two main U.S. immigration enforcement agencies were directed Monday to stop referring to migrants as “aliens,” a dated term that many people consider offensive.

Memos issued by Customs and Border Protection, as well as Immigration and Customs Enforcement, tells employees to use the words “non-citizen” or “migrant.” The change reflects guidelines set by the Biden administration, which is reversing many of the anti-immigrant policies of former President Donald Trump.

Instead of “illegal aliens,” which was still being used by some government officials in press releases and elsewhere, the employees of CBP and ICE should instead use “undocumented noncitizen” or “undocumented individual,” according to the memos.

NBC News too: 'Words we use matter': Biden administration chucks 'illegal alien' for 'noncitizen'

Do these leftist organizations write "fan fiction" as well? Or is it only considered to be that if it comes from conservative sources?
 
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You'll also find it in the Associated Press:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Employees of the two main U.S. immigration enforcement agencies were directed Monday to stop referring to migrants as “aliens,” a dated term that many people consider offensive.

Memos issued by Customs and Border Protection, as well as Immigration and Customs Enforcement, tells employees to use the words “non-citizen” or “migrant.” The change reflects guidelines set by the Biden administration, which is reversing many of the anti-immigrant policies of former President Donald Trump.

Instead of “illegal aliens,” which was still being used by some government officials in press releases and elsewhere, the employees of CBP and ICE should instead use “undocumented noncitizen” or “undocumented individual,” according to the memos.

NBC News too: 'Words we use matter': Biden administration chucks 'illegal alien' for 'noncitizen'

Do these leftist organizations write "fan fiction" as well? Or is it only considered to be that if it comes from conservative sources?
Fan fiction means that the claim is wrong. Claims made in some posts have been, quite simply and obviously, wrong. Nothing in your post was wrong. It simply detailed new terminology. Do I care that you don't like it? I do not. In fact, if it annoys people who use fan fiction to try to bolster an otherwise facile argument argument, then I support it for that reason alone.
 
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Fan fiction means that the claim is wrong. Claims made in some posts have been, quite simply and obviously, wrong. Nothing in your post was wrong. It simply detailed new terminology. Do I care that you don't like it? I do not. In fact, if it annoys people who use fan fiction to try to bolster an otherwise facile argument argument, then I support it for that reason alone.
Then it's not "fan fiction" that someone in post #34 claimed it was--that they are now called "non-citizens" instead of illegal aliens?
If NBC News reports it as true, then it MUST be true, unless you believe NBC is spreading "fan fiction". Same for the AP, and NPR, along with a host of others sources that are reporting it. Google it to find out for yourself.
 
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You'll also find it in the Associated Press:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Employees of the two main U.S. immigration enforcement agencies were directed Monday to stop referring to migrants as “aliens,” a dated term that many people consider offensive.

Memos issued by Customs and Border Protection, as well as Immigration and Customs Enforcement, tells employees to use the words “non-citizen” or “migrant.” The change reflects guidelines set by the Biden administration, which is reversing many of the anti-immigrant policies of former President Donald Trump.

Instead of “illegal aliens,” which was still being used by some government officials in press releases and elsewhere, the employees of CBP and ICE should instead use “undocumented noncitizen” or “undocumented individual,” according to the memos.

NBC News too: 'Words we use matter': Biden administration chucks 'illegal alien' for 'noncitizen'

Do these leftist organizations write "fan fiction" as well? Or is it only considered to be that if it comes from conservative sources?

.....which has nothing to do with the thread topic.
 
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Then it's not "fan fiction" that someone in post #34 claimed it was--that they are now called "non-citizens" instead of illegal aliens?
If NBC News reports it as true, then it MUST be true, unless you believe NBC is spreading "fan fiction". Same for the AP, and NPR, along with a host of others sources that are reporting it. Google it to find out for yourself.
@BurningBush84 has been constantly complaining that all non citizens are illegal aliens. That is complete nonsense. He made the mistake in the very first post and he has been repeating it ever since. Illegal aliens are not simply 'non citizens' as you so helpfully pointed out in your own post. Hopefully he will have read that and won't keep repeating his mistake.
 
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