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Really? Who authorized that punishment?Not quite.
My remarks concerned those verses wherein God speak to removing the unborn child from the mothers womb. The Hosea verses are one such example.
Then there are those verses wherein the unborn was to die as a punishment on the parent(s).
Let's assume the conceptus is a person.
Is self-defense morally permissible? Is it still morally permissible if the attacker does not intend to harm anyone, i.e. the attacker is drugged against his will and is now acting violent?
it would have been really helpful if Jesus spoke specifically on the topic. Yes, a 6 week pregnancy means there's a person in there. Or not.
And in the case of a pregnancy costing the woman her life unless she terminate?
Not quite.
My remarks concerned those verses wherein God speak to removing the unborn child from the mothers womb. The Hosea verses are one such example.
Then there are those verses wherein the unborn was to die as a punishment on the parent(s).
My answer is "no" there are no direct and specific verses that deal with abortion. I do believe however we can make a biblical case against abortion just the same (as a previous poster has done).
Cant say. The examples you provide are about how we treat other people. The whole abortion controversy is essentially about when does a pregnancy result in a "person".If he expanded murder to include hating your brother and adultery to include lust, what do you think he would have said about killing a baby in the womb?
The question is, is abortion a sin? If it's a sin, having an abortion will result in guilt because the Holy Spirit will convict you of the sin. What do we see?
Feelings of guilt are among the most common immediate as well as delayed reactions to abortion. Guilt is a normal reaction that usually surfaces after the woman recognizes that abortion is wrong and that she is responsible for committing her own abortion. Guilt is what we feel when we have violated our own moral code. One study found that fully 70% of aborting women expressed general disapproval of abortion, yet tended to rationalize themselves as "exceptions" to the rules. This "exception" clause was enunciated by one girl after an abortion who said: "It's murder, but it's justifiable murder."
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Abortion is murder, abortion is sin, and no sin is without consequence. It's false teaching to pretend that the Bible condones abortion.
The position of most pro-life advocates I know is that abortion is necessary if it is to save the life of the mother.I guess the women is out of luck.
How would you know the guilt most women who have an abortion feel is because they think it's wrong....or because society beats them over the head with the idea it's wrong?
Don't you at least think it's possible if everyone stopped making a big deal out of it and christians specifically tried to stop guilt tripping women....that just maybe they wouldn't feel awful about it afterwards?
The position of most pro-life advocates I know is that abortion is necessary if it is to save the life of the mother.
A late term abortion takes days to prepare. In some cases, up to three days. If a life threatening situation arises in late pregnancy, abortion isn't going to help.
Cant say. The examples you provide are about how we treat other people. The whole abortion controversy is essentially about when does a pregnancy result in a "person".
Its not about "life". Ending a life is not murder, or God would have us be vegetarians. Its about killing a person. And you didnt address how we define a person.At conception, the life has started, because the only way to stop the process is to kill it.
Without a trial and conviction for a capital offense, only God is entitled to end that life.
Should they feel awful about destroying their son or daughter? YES. It is called having a conscience. Those to worry about are the ones who kill and feel no remorse whatsoever. That means their conscience is seared and there is nothing left but judgment.
Well here's a question...did the ancient jews practice abortion?
At conception the life has started, because the only way to stop the process is to kill it.
Without a trial and conviction for a capital offense, only God is entitled to end that life.
So if you accept that 70% statistic that just got thrown up...then 30% don't feel guilt. That adds up to what? Hundreds of thousands of women? They're nothing but psychopathic monsters? Probably not...
You know what I think is sociopathic behavior? A culture that finds it acceptable to use guilt as a weapon against women facing one of the toughest decisions of their lives and then turning around and saying that the guilt women feel after an abortion is somehow proof it's inherently "wrong".
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