If you want kids to learn creation science, show how you'd teach it.

[AV1611VET]

Yea, and? I know full well the Bible talks about windows.

Then why did you cough when I talked about windows?

*cough* Example, he said there were windows in the sky in Noahs time. *cough*


...
*goes to bed*

 

[Edx]

Then why did you cough when I talked about windows?

I didnt. That post was in responce to someone that said your beliefs are crazy.

 

[JohnR7]

Thats your belief, its not based on science. If you can present evidence based on science then do so.

That is exactly what I am talking about is evidence based on science. That is why they call it creation science.

For example the Bible says that God created creatures that were breathing and able to move about. Creation science does indeed show us that there is a connection between the use of oxygen in the cell and the ability of the organism to be able to move about.

Through photosynthesis energy from the sun is stored on the Oxygen that the cell or even our cars burn in order to produce energy. Just like energy from the sun is released in fossil fuel that we burn in our cars.

Of course carbon dioxide is stored in fossil fuel, so when we burn the fuel the carbon dioxide is released back into the atmosphere and science tells us that creates a greenhouse effect and global warming.

Genesis 1:21
And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

The key word here is "nephesh" meaning to breath. This gives them the energy needed to move.

 

[JohnR7]

Then why did you cough when I talked about windows?

That is just a middle english expression.
They use to talk about a window of opportunity.
It basicly means the water was there waiting to be released.

In the Hebrew it has more of a meaning of ambush to lurk or wait.

We know that God holds back His judgement until just the right time.
The earth is soon to be judged by fire and God is holding that back.

Rev. 13:13
And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

Of course they reject that God judged the earth in Noah's day,
becasue they reject that God is going to judge the earth in their day.
Then the earth was cleansed with water, today the earth will be cleansed by fire.

 

[Edx]

That is just a middle english expression. They use to talk about a window of opportunity. It basicly means the water was there waiting to be released.

In the Hebrew it has more of a meaning of ambush to lurk or wait.

I said *cough* *cough* and this doesnt make sence even to me. I wonder why AV has never seen anyone do that. Weird.

 

[JohnR7]

I said *cough* *cough* and this doesnt make sence even to me. I wonder why AV has never seen anyone do that. Weird.

I don't know, he kept talking about window, so I thought I would explain it, if anyone wondered what it's meaning was. In case there were any lurkers

 

[joey444]

John, people needing oxygen doesn't prove the bible right...

 

[LightHorseman]

That is exactly what I am talking about is evidence based on science. That is why they call it creation science.

GNNNN! NO! They call it creation science so people will THINK its a science. But its not. They are LYING to you John!

And if you want to prove me wrong, all I need is one good solid example of theistic intervention suitable for inclusion in a biology textbook. None of that argument from incredulity, "what use is half a wing" crap, but the real deal. Just one observable instance of God interacting directly in a way observable by science, and I will become a complete defender of creation science.

I await your reply.

 

[LightHorseman]

Of course carbon dioxide is stored in fossil fuel, so when we burn the fuel the carbon dioxide is released back into the atmosphere and science tells us that creates a greenhouse effect and global warming.

Your grasp of science is truly stunning. Carbon is stored in fossil fuel, which BONDS WITH OXYGEN TO BECOME CARBON DIOXIDE, during oxidation/combustion reactions.

 

[Jase]

Not hardly --- if you've read enough of my posts, you'll see that I actually hold science in high esteem.

As I have said before, God created the science that this universe runs on.

Anyone who rejects all evidence that disagress with their interpretation of a shoddy English translation of the Bible doesn't hold reality or logic in high esteem, let alone science.

 

[Jase]

.

[bible]Genesis 7:11[/bible]

And what are the fountains of the great deep AV? Where would one find them?

 

[Nathan Poe]

Through photosynthesis energy from the sun is stored on the Oxygen that the cell or even our cars burn in order to produce energy. Just like energy from the sun is released in fossil fuel that we burn in our cars.

Can someone please explain to John what photosynthesis does before he embarasses himself -- again?

 

[TheWakeUpCaller]

How about you give us a source to check up on? Ha ha.



lol heparin is an anti coagulant. If vitamin E would work better, where are your double blind studies supporting this? Or alternatively, if there havn't been double blind studies, how do yo know? Ha ha



lol I'm a nurse, I've studied plenty ha ha

lol Chelation therapy, you may wish to cite a source so I know I'm reading the same material as you ha ha

Oh, and yes, vacines ARE a cure, if used by a large enough portion of the population, the reservoir of a disease is destroyed and the disease dies out. Like smallpox. Indeed, vacination is the ONLY way to cure viral infections effectively. Ha ha

Last thing... why do you laugh in your posts? I don't get it.

I am a research nurse, most of my career has been as a float nurse and mental health. I understand why you think the way you do about drugs. This is how we are programmed. "The Makers Diet" is good for starters by Dr. Jordan Rubin. Kevin Trudeau, author of "Natural Cures", be careful here, as he is one of the people you like. Dr. Weston Price is a good one........Do a google search. Vaccines are crap. Most of the problems we are seeing now are from childhood vaccines. I had a lady that took a flu shot every year. She barely made it into the ER before collapsing. Benadryl is what saved her. Lucky her huh? She just happened to forget something in the clinic by the ER where I was that day. If she would have made it to the parking deck, to her car, she would have been dead. You wanna talk about side effects.

I will tell you what started me on this. On second thought you can tell me. It was a drug that was helping people lose weight, and very popular. As a nurse I was very much against it. When the FDA finally banned it, i was full of joy. That is until I read the studies. It was in no way connected to anything, they said at first it was linked to 56 deaths. This drug helped millions. This is when I found out that aspirin kills 1,000 people a year. Hey nurse, tell them about aspartame.. do your research and be honest... How did this become legal? The FDA would not legalize it for years. what is wood alcohol anyone? Are scientists responsible?? Is it about money? Wait i know the answer you are all thinking..... It is President Bush's fault. I laugh in my post because I find you funny............thanks michael ............................ephedra is the drug I am referring to in this post.

 

[TheWakeUpCaller]

Can someone please explain to John what photosynthesis does before he embarasses himself -- again?

How about you explain it to him, since you made the smart comment.

 

[JGG]

Kevin Trudeau, author of "Natural Cures", be careful here, as he is one of the people you like. Dr. Weston Price is a good one........Do a google search.

Kevin Trudeau is a conman actually.

http://www.quackwatch.org/02ConsumerProtection/FTCActions/trudeau.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Trudeau

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/09/trudeaucoral.htm

http://dir.salon.com/story/books/feature/2005/07/29/trudeau/index.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/22/AR2005102201272.html

I take it you've read his latest book. Care to share his cure for Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma?

 

[Jase]

For example the Bible says that God created creatures that were breathing and able to move about. Creation science does indeed show us that there is a connection between the use of oxygen in the cell and the ability of the organism to be able to move about.

That's quite a leap you make there. Since the Bible mentions people walking, the Bible proves cells use oxygen? Come on John. Can you for once be honest please?

Through photosynthesis energy from the sun is stored on the Oxygen that the cell or even our cars burn in order to produce energy. Just like energy from the sun is released in fossil fuel that we burn in our cars.

First of all, what does "Stored on the oxygen that the cell burns" mean?

Photosythensis is a process where by light, Carbon dioxide and water produce glucose and oxygen. Plants don't burn oxygen - it's a byproduct.

Of course carbon dioxide is stored in fossil fuel, so when we burn the fuel the carbon dioxide is released back into the atmosphere and science tells us that creates a greenhouse effect and global warming.

Fossil fuels are hydrocarbons. They don't have oxygen.

 

[TheWakeUpCaller]

Kevin Trudeau is a conman actually.

http://www.quackwatch.org/02ConsumerProtection/FTCActions/trudeau.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Trudeau

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/09/trudeaucoral.htm

http://dir.salon.com/story/books/feature/2005/07/29/trudeau/index.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/22/AR2005102201272.html

I take it you've read his latest book. Care to share his cure for Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma?

I agree that he is a conman. He still is right on alot of the stuff he says regarding natural cures and the FDA. He lost respect from me when he said he saw aliens in area 51.

 

[JGG]

I agree that he is a conman. He still is right on alot of the stuff he says regarding natural cures and the FDA. He lost respect from me when he said he saw aliens in area 51.

And yet, here you are using his testimony as evidence.

 

[Baggins]

How about you explain it to him, since you made the smart comment.

Why don't you explain it to him, the rest of us enjoy watching him get it wrong all the time

 

[rmwilliamsll]

Vaccines are crap. Most of the problems we are seeing now are from childhood vaccines.


imho, one of the important things we can do here is learn better how to think and how to argue.

why are vaccines crap? because they don't work or because of potential side-effects?
do you contest that vaccines work? or are you referring to the possibility that autism is caused by the Hg in vaccines?

or are you a believer that AIDS is an escaped monkey virus given deliberately to the Africans in the small pox campaigns or similiar mass immunizations?

what problems are we seeing in childhood immunizations?
the known % that get the disease from the shot?
the know side-effects?
or something else.

you can make all the generalizations you want. but if you want to persuade people to believe as you do, you will evidentually have to talk about specifics and the evidence. especially if you are making scientific claims as are these.