If you want kids to learn creation science, show how you'd teach it.

[Caphi]

That eternal torment is for their benefit --- consider this:

Right now the Holy Spirit is here keeping evil at bay. Despite this fact, we've had our Neros and Stalins and Hitlers and Pol Pots, etc. People who have done unimaginable evil things to others.

Now picture Hell without the fire and brimstone: nice houses, quiet streets, beautiful gardens, lakes, and ponds. Plenty of fishing, hunting, hiking, whatever your heart's desire.

And best of all: no God - no Bible - not a Christian in sight! In fact, it's an Atheist's Paradise; with survival-of-the-fittest and natural selection a daily occurrence.

Now all of a sudden, Nero shows up, then Stalin, then Hitler, then Pol Pot. Can you even fathom how those men would turn your little paradise into a torture chamber for all eternity?

No --- God is not going to let that happen. You see, He made provisions for that --- even in Hell; because Nero and Stalin and Hitler and Pol Pot are going to be too busy with their own problems to be thinking of anyone else.

Me --- I'm taking the cool way out --- through Jesus Christ.

If Heaven is filled with closed-minded, intellectually cowardly people like you, I'd rather be in Hell. After all, it's got many, many more people, so where's the better party going to be? ;-p

 

[joey444]

If Heaven is filled with closed-minded, intellectually cowardly people like you, I'd rather be in Hell. After all, it's got many, many more people, so where's the better party going to be? ;-p

And Oscar Wilde!

 

[AV1611VET]

No worries... beyond the event horizon of every black hole is a singularity.

Then I must be having a problem knowing what a singularity is. If there are black holes all over the universe, how then are they singularities?

See? Repeatable observation, and compliance of observed facts with prediction, equals science.

But not singularities.

 

[shadowmage36]

A-hem.

sin·gu·lar·i·ty)
n. pl. sin·gu·lar·i·ties

1. The quality or condition of being singular.
2. A trait marking one as distinct from others; a peculiarity.
3. Something uncommon or unusual.
4. >>>>>Astrophysics. A point in space-time at which gravitational forces cause matter to have infinite density and infinitesimal volume, and space and time to become infinitely distorted.
5. Mathematics. A point at which the derivative does not exist for a given function but every neighborhood of which contains points for which the derivative exists. Also called singular point.

See number 4.

 

[AV1611VET]

AV1611VET,
I have enjoyed everything you have posted. You have been called stupid and other names, but yet you never responded in kind.

Thank you very much. I've had my moments, though.

Matthew 9:24 always comes to mind whenever I start to get upset:

[bible]Matthew 9:24[/bible]

 

[AV1611VET]

I'd like to re-iterate that I have never called him stupid, nor attacked him. But I AM still waiting for a clear cut example of theistic creationism thats verifiable by science, and, therefore, suitable for inclusion in a science text.

I've given up on trying to answer that to your satisfaction.

Unless you swear to me on a stack of Bibles that you will never submit to any medical treatment ever again, then YOU sir, are a hypocrite

How so? He said he will take the Bible first - then science.

The Bible is not an amulet.

 

[AV1611VET]

...a singularity (a region where the curvature of space-time is infinitely high).

Sounds like you just described where Heaven is.

 

[MrGoodBytes]

Sounds like you just described where Heaven is.

Leviticus 16, 1-7: "Heaven is a region where the curvature of space-time is infinitely high."

 

[AV1611VET]

A-hem.



See number 4.

Sounds like you just described what Heaven is.

 

[Chalnoth]

Then I must be having a problem knowing what a singularity is. If there are black holes all over the universe, how then are they singularities?

A singularity in mathematics is a point where something tends towards infinity. In this case, that thing is curvature. The point at the center of a black hole is described by the curvature tending towards infinity.

An example in mathematics would be:
1/(1-x)^2

...where the function tends towards infinity as you approach x=1. This is called a singular point.

 

[Chalnoth]

Sounds like you just described what Heaven is.

Sure, if you mean that heaven is defined as a place where all structures cease to exist, becoming infinitely compressed.

 

[MrGoodBytes]

Sure, if you mean that heaven is defined as a place where all structures cease to exist, becoming infinitely compressed.

Well, that's what the Bible says, mister!

 

[Beastt]

Then I must be having a problem knowing what a singularity is. If there are black holes all over the universe, how then are they singularities?

This is embarrassing.

 

[Caphi]

Sounds like you just described where Heaven is.

Sounds like you desperately need to learn what a singularity is. It is NOT an event which happens exactly once. Rather, it is a name for a kind of mathematical anomaly. For example, the function (X^2-X)/X has a singularity at x = 0.

 

[Cannonflare]

So X doesn't = Heven?

 

[rmwilliamsll]

This is embarrassing.

you think you are embarrassed, you're on the other team.
can you image what his side is thinking?
bring back ostracism.
and volunteer their best cockery for the voting *grin*

 

[AV1611VET]

A singularity in mathematics is...

Rather, it is a name for a kind of mathematical anomaly.

Now, all of a sudden, I'm getting the mathematical definition of a singularity, am I?

I just checked my dictionary, and it says:

1. SINGULAR QUANTITY

• singular, exceptional, or unusual quality

2. SOMETHING UNIQUE OR UNUSUAL

• something that is unique, distinctive, or remarkable

3. CHARACTERISTIC

• a distinguishing trait

4. HYPOTHETICAL POINT IN SPACE

• Astrophysics: a hypothetical region in space in which gravitational forces cause matter to be infinitely compressed and space and time to become infinitely distorted

5. FUNCTION THAT IS NOT DIFFERENTIABLE

• Mathematics: a point at which a complex function is undefined because it is neither differentiable nor single-valued, while the function is defined in every neighborhood of the point
• Also called: SINGULAR POINT

THESARUS: marvel, wonder, miracle, spectacle

No, thanks, I think I'll save being embarrassed for later.

 

[Chalnoth]

Well, you were talking about black holes. The singularity of a black hole is a mathematical singularity.

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, you were talking about black holes. The singularity of a black hole is a mathematical singularity.

I was??? I don't remember bringing black holes up.

 

[Chalnoth]

I was??? I don't remember bringing black holes up.

Then I must be having a problem knowing what a singularity is. If there are black holes all over the universe, how then are they singularities?

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