If You Refuse Vaccine And Bracelet You Go To A "camp"

[ThankGodforGod]

Big Pharma would not reveal any if there has been; mass vaccinations has not really got into full swing yet, but anytime a foreign substance is injected into the body there will be side effects, some will be mild but there also will be adverse side effects. They have no way of knowing the long term side effects yet, we will soon find out. Just like the sudden appearance of Autism in children that's being blamed on the Mercury based additives to preserve the vaccines given to babies.

Sudden aperence? If it was so sudden then why has it gone no where but up since the mercury was taken out? You are confusing correlation with causation, autism rates have gone up because we are better at diagnosing it.

Also big pharma has no control over people going to the press or suing if they were harmed. The fact is that no one has been harmed because vaccines are safe. Do you have any background in epidemiology?

 

[stelow]

Gov't: Girl?s Autism Symptoms Linked to Vaccines

 

[stelow]

Vaccine Links To Autism? - CBS Evening News - CBS News

 

[stelow]

Vaccines: Vac-Gen/Side Effects

 

[visionary]

Sudden aperence? If it was so sudden then why has it gone no where but up since the mercury was taken out? You are confusing correlation with causation, autism rates have gone up because we are better at diagnosing it.

Also big pharma has no control over people going to the press or suing if they were harmed. The fact is that no one has been harmed because vaccines are safe. Do you have any background in epidemiology?

You do not have a case. My daughter was taken to emergency shortly after receiving a vaccination with heart palpatations and other severe reactions. I asked the doctor to report it to CDC but he gave no indication that he would.

 

[pgp_protector]

You do not have a case. My daughter was taken to emergency shortly after receiving a vaccination with heart palpatations and other severe reactions. I asked the doctor to report it to CDC but he gave no indication that he would.

1) Are they ok now ?
2) What were the other reactions ?


Heart palpitations: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia

Heart palpitations can be caused by:

* Exercise
* Anxiety, stress, fear
* Fever
* Caffeine, nicotine, cocaine, diet pills
* Overactive thyroid
* Anemia
* Hyperventilation
* Low levels of oxygen in your blood
* Medications such as thyroid pills, asthma drugs, beta blockers, or anti-arrhythmics. (Medications to treat an irregular heart rhythm will sometimes cause a different irregular rhythm).
* Mitral valve prolapse, a condition in which the valve that separates the left upper chamber (atrium) from the left lower chamber (ventricle) of the heart does not close properly
* Heart disease

 

[stelow]

The mercury is in both the seasonal and H1N1 flu shots.

Thoughtful House

 

[Drekkan85]

Stelow - the problem with those cases are that some ignorant person take them to apply to the population as a whole. They involve an incredibly tiny group of children who have a rare mitochondrial disorder. What's also interesting is those are from the Vaccine Court which, on any ambiguity, rules in favour of the patient for the case of extreme safety.

As TGfG has pointed out, rates haven't changed with removal of mercury from vaccines. As for the vaccines themselves, at very least MMR, the "prime culprit" in the eyes of murderer Jenny McCarthy (see Jenny McCarthy Body Count), the Danish study has conclusively disproven the hypothesis that it has any effect.

 

[pgp_protector]

The mercury is in both the seasonal and H1N1 flu shots.

Thoughtful House

Not in the single dose shots.


CDC H1N1 Flu | General Questions and Answers on 2009 H1N1 Influenza Vaccine Safety

Will the 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccine contain thimerosal?
The 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccines that FDA is licensing (approving) will be manufactured in several formulations. Some will come in multi-dose vials and will contain thimerosal as a preservative. Multi-dose vials of seasonal influenza vaccine also contain thimerosal to prevent potential contamination after the vial is opened.

Some 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccines will be available in single-dose units, which will not require the use of thimerosal as a preservative. In addition, the live-attenuated version of the vaccine, which is administered intranasally (through the nose), is produced in single-units and will not contain thimerosal. For more information on thimerosal.

 

[stelow]

Then you swing into wing-nut ville. Autism is not linked with vaccines, nor with the preservatives used in vaccines.

Stelow - the problem with those cases are that some ignorant person take them to apply to the population as a whole. They involve an incredibly tiny group of children who have a rare mitochondrial disorder. What's also interesting is those are from the Vaccine Court which, on any ambiguity, rules in favour of the patient for the case of extreme safety.

As TGfG has pointed out, rates haven't changed with removal of mercury from vaccines. As for the vaccines themselves, at very least MMR, the "prime culprit" in the eyes of murderer Jenny McCarthy (see Jenny McCarthy Body Count), the Danish study has conclusively disproven the hypothesis that it has any effect.

A typical tactic of the enemy is to talk out both sides of their mouth. First you say there are no cases that can be linked, now that I have shown indeed they have been linked to the vaccines, now you say it only applies to a tiny group.

 

[stelow]

Not in the single dose shots.


CDC H1N1 Flu | General Questions and Answers on 2009 H1N1 Influenza Vaccine Safety

The key word here is some will be, but the majority won't be in the single dose shots. And this does not mention the regular seasonal flu shot that has the mercury based preservative also.

 

[pgp_protector]

The key word here is some will be, but the majority won't be in the single dose shots. And this does not mention the regular seasonal flu shot that has the mercury based preservative also.

Same thing, you can also get it Mercury free. Fluzone (no thimerosal) for example by Sanofi Pasteur, Inc has 0 mercury in it.
Thimerosal in Vaccines

Also the Live Influenza vaccine (FluMist by MedImmune Vaccines) doesn't have any mercury in it either.

 

[stelow]

Not to mention the H1N1 vaccines have only around a 33 percent effectiveness rate, that's only about 3 people out of 10 would even get some protection from the H1N1 virus. And again the seasonal and H1N1 flu vaccines without thimersosal are available, but only in very limited quantities.

 

[stelow]

Good, the last thing we need is health care workers giving someone who came in for a minor operation H1N1.

Only the simple minded would believe this. Even if they got the vaccine and did get some protection from the H1N1 virus they could still be carriers of the virus. Seeing that last year only 4 out 10 health care workers in the state of New York received the seasonal flu shot, that means if the majority refused and was fired; you would have a state that would have a 60 percent drop in health workers, now that's showing some good judgment by the one's imposing such a mandate.

 

[marlowe007]

Check it out. For those of you who still think doctors know best ~ they often do ~ but don't tell you what they know... "Although doctors want you to receive an annual flu shot, doctors and nurses are among the least likely to be vaccinated. In fact, 70% of doctors and nurses do not get annual flu shots; 62% of healthcare workers do not get a flu vaccine." Source: Journal of General Internal Medicine (February 6, 2006); Associated Press.

 

[gracechick]

I heard that a person passed away from the H1N1 and was employed in a sizable plant. At this point managment expects all workers to be vaccinated so I am watching this one to see what comes about.

 

[ThankGodforGod]

Not to mention the H1N1 vaccines have only around a 33 percent effectiveness rate, that's only about 3 people out of 10 would even get some protection from the H1N1 virus. And again the seasonal and H1N1 flu vaccines without thimersosal are available, but only in very limited quantities.

What do you base your information on? A study I listened to just the other day had the live vaccine in the high 90% range.

 

[ThankGodforGod]

Only the simple minded would believe this. Even if they got the vaccine and did get some protection from the H1N1 virus they could still be carriers of the virus. Seeing that last year only 4 out 10 health care workers in the state of New York received the seasonal flu shot, that means if the majority refused and was fired; you would have a state that would have a 60 percent drop in health workers, now that's showing some good judgment by the one's imposing such a mandate.

Where did you learn about biology? How do you spread a virus you are not infected with?

My dad is currently waiting on a hospital room for having pneumonia in both lungs, probably caused by H1N1 (doing the culture now). He is only about 5 years younger than you, in great shape and healthy. Mom says no one is allowed to visit because the hospital is almost full with flu and pneumonia cases.

 

[ThankGodforGod]

Check it out. For those of you who still think doctors know best ~ they often do ~ but don't tell you what they know... "Although doctors want you to receive an annual flu shot, doctors and nurses are among the least likely to be vaccinated. In fact, 70% of doctors and nurses do not get annual flu shots; 62% of healthcare workers do not get a flu vaccine." Source: Journal of General Internal Medicine (February 6, 2006); Associated Press.

That would be a study from 2006 having nothing to do with H1N1.

No one is saying doctors know best, I am saying LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. They are clear.

 

[stelow]

Where did you learn about biology? How do you spread a virus you are not infected with?

My dad is currently waiting on a hospital room for having pneumonia in both lungs, probably caused by H1N1 (doing the culture now). He is only about 5 years younger than you, in great shape and healthy. Mom says no one is allowed to visit because the hospital is almost full with flu and pneumonia cases.

Sorry to hear about your dad. Pneumonia is some serious stuff.

I will ignore your first question. Well to answer your second question, you don't have to be infected with the virus to be a carrier of the germs.

Studies have shown that influenza virus can survive on environmental surfaces and can infect a person for 2 to 8 hours after being deposited on the surface. Germs can be spread when a person touches something that is contaminated with germs and then touches his or her eyes, nose, or mouth.

source: CDC H1N1 Flu | H1N1 Flu and You