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If You Refuse Vaccine And Bracelet You Go To A "camp"

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Ok guys, can we get a definite answer here, does aspirin prevent cytokine storms or does it provoke them? We've had a whole bunch of "unbiased sources" that are apparently claiming the complete opposite of each other.

Not exactly convincing....
 
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"FLU UPDATE"



What is the difference between Bird Flu and Swine Flu?

For bird flu you need tweetment and for swine flu you need oinkment:D



:D^_^:thumbsup::clap: LOL

Also if swine flu, then pigs fly.:angel::o:sorry:
 
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Hi everyone,

Since I am new to these boards i wanted to ask if 'others' might send a personal message to visionary - to make sure visionary at least reads.... the findings on the dangers of Aspirin - (It is a historical fact that it contributed to the terrible events during the pandemic in 1918) - and....the same might hold true for this present hour - whatever might come our way. Also please tell your 'faith communities' about the real danger of this vaccination program - tell the people you trust and love...

The Lord is in control
- but he asks us to be diligent in the tasks he gives us.

all the best
WhatWeAllNeedToKnow
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Hi everyone,

Since I am new to these boards i wanted to ask if 'others' might send a personal message to visionary - to make sure visionary at least reads.... the findings on the dangers of Aspirin - (It is a historical fact that it contributed to the terrible events during the pandemic in 1918) - and....the same might hold true for this present hour - whatever might come our way. Also please tell your 'faith communities' about the real danger of this vaccination program - tell the people you trust and love...

The Lord is in control
- but he asks us to be diligent in the tasks he gives us.

all the best
WhatWeAllNeedToKnow
(john)

Sorry, I must have missed it... how did aspirin contribute to the tragedy of 1918/19?
 
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Hi E - (friend)

god bless you for asking -

I posted the info on the previous page - but will repost now - strange that this info is not widely known - I check the sources and consider it authentic - in the post you will notice an 'alternative' to fight flu / pneumonia - if ever it comes any of our ways...


Dangers Of Aspirin In Pandemic Situation I think we all need to be well informed, especially about the role aspirin played in the 1918 Pandemic. I take exception of the suite101 article.

There are important alternatives - so I am posting here.
Also be aware under the Codex Alimantarus protocols,
the avaialblity of these remedies might not be available
after December 31, 2009


DANGERS OF ASPIRIN
Homeopathy also gained quite a reputation during the 1918 flu pandemic. Raymond Seidel, HMD (homeopathic medical doctor), decided to be a homeopathic doctor during the 1918 flu epidemic when he was a 10-year-old delivery boy for a local homeopath. He said, "I saw that the people who were taking aspirin were dying, about half those who were drinking a lot were dying, and those that received homeopathic remedies were living."

In Julian Winston’s article, Influenza-1918: Homeopathy to the Rescue (The New England Journal of Homeopathy, Vol. 7, No. 1, 1998), he noted that most of the deaths were caused by a virulent pneumonia that was especially devastating to those who depressed their system with analgesics, especially aspirin. The following citations from his article prove this point:

The physician who wrote this (excerpted) web article connects today's swine flu scare with past pandemics like the worldwide Spanish Flu outbreak of 1918-19 that took the life of 675,000 Americans, including one of my uncles.

According to Dr. Tennant, the widespread use of aspirin during the winter that followed the end of The Great War could have been one of the key factors that contributed to the earlier pandemic by suppressing the immune system and lowering body temperatures that allowed the flu virus to multiply. Like aspirin, modern-day antiviral drugs like Tamiflu® and Relenza® also lower body temperatures.

from
_proliberty.com/observer/20051017.htm

TAMIFLU RESISTANCE
Recent outbreaks of the Swine Flu have been shown to be Tamiflu® resistant. On Sept 10 Health officials reported what may be the first instance of a Tamiflu-resistant swine flu virus spreading from one person to another.

ASPIRIN ALTERNATIVE - Kakkon-to: TJ-1
Kampo is a very big name in Japan and its products are well researched and documented. Here is one example of one of their formulas vs aspirin in combating pnuemonia via influenza virus. Aspirin, the most commonly used medication for treating the common cold and flu in the West, is a pain relieving and antipyretic agent derived from a chemical modification of ingredients in the bark of the willow tree (Salix alba). But some 2000 years ago, long before aspirin was discovered, a Chinese medical classic called the Shokan-ron already had described several different types of medicines for colds, one of which was Kakkon-to.

Dr. Kimiyasu Shiraki, professor at the Virus Research Labs of Toyama Medical & Pharmaceutical University, recently reported the findings of research comparing the healing activity of Tsumura's Kakkon-to (TJ-1) and aspirin on influenza-infected mice. The experiment, done on the DBA/2Cr strain of mice, which readily develop symptoms of fever after inhaling the influenza virus, was designed to evaluate the effectiveness of Kakkon-to on mice infected in this way. The researchers noted that, unlike mice given just water, those treated with Kakkon-to did not develop a high fever after 1-2 days of virus infection. It was also noted that treatment with Kakkon-to helped the mice recover more quickly from weight loss, a symptom of influenza in mice, and lowered the mortality rate by preventing the onset of pneumonia. In order to further examine their respective effectiveness, antipyretic action and preventive effect against pneumonia, Kakkon-to and aspirin were compared with respect to several pathological aspects of influenza-induced fever. Specifically, comparison focused on production of cytokines, which aid an animal's defense against the influenza virus. The experiment found that Kakkon-to did not affect the increase in interferon activity caused by the viral infection, nor did the levels of IL-2 and TNF-alpha in the blood show any change.

In other words Kakkon-to is a more effective treatment to fight the influenza and associated pneumonia - it might even save your life - based on the history of aspirin's effect during the 1918 pandemic.


Kakkon-to can be found here:
__happyherbalist.com/browseproducts/Kudzu-Rx-Tablets.HTML


Again - that suite101 article is definitely suspicious - since it deliberately does not mention the known historical facts of typeA influenza pandemics- decontextualised to mislead.



VIRAL RESISTANCE - TJ-41
Also - with repect to boosting your immune system and protecting against viruses. The far eastern TJ-41 has a proven track record.

It goes by the name
(Hochu-ekki-to: Japanese)
or
(Bu Zhong Yi Qi Wan: Chinese)

It can be found here:
__activeherb.com/qivive/

this infomation was gleaned from an important thread on flutrackers.
__flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104397


all the best

rejoice - the Lord's victory approaches

john
(whatweallneedtoknow)
 
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All those homepath folks and possible converts do need to remember that in Dec of this year the Codex law should go into effect. This will make getting supplements and herbal meds almost impossible to obtain as one could only receive them through a perscription from a doctor. And they will control doctors like they wish to control the rest of the population.

The only hope believers should really be focousing on is redemption and a powerful annointing from the Lord. The other alternatives He has created will be near impossible if they have their way in a few months.
 
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Hi E - (friend)

god bless you for asking -

I posted the info on the previous page - but will repost now - strange that this info is not widely known - I check the sources and consider it authentic - in the post you will notice an 'alternative' to fight flu / pneumonia - if ever it comes any of our ways...


Dangers Of Aspirin In Pandemic Situation I think we all need to be well informed, especially about the role aspirin played in the 1918 Pandemic. I take exception of the suite101 article.

There are important alternatives - so I am posting here.
Also be aware under the Codex Alimantarus protocols,
the avaialblity of these remedies might not be available
after December 31, 2009


DANGERS OF ASPIRIN
Homeopathy also gained quite a reputation during the 1918 flu pandemic. Raymond Seidel, HMD (homeopathic medical doctor), decided to be a homeopathic doctor during the 1918 flu epidemic when he was a 10-year-old delivery boy for a local homeopath. He said, "I saw that the people who were taking aspirin were dying, about half those who were drinking a lot were dying, and those that received homeopathic remedies were living."

In Julian Winston’s article, Influenza-1918: Homeopathy to the Rescue (The New England Journal of Homeopathy, Vol. 7, No. 1, 1998), he noted that most of the deaths were caused by a virulent pneumonia that was especially devastating to those who depressed their system with analgesics, especially aspirin. The following citations from his article prove this point:

The physician who wrote this (excerpted) web article connects today's swine flu scare with past pandemics like the worldwide Spanish Flu outbreak of 1918-19 that took the life of 675,000 Americans, including one of my uncles.

According to Dr. Tennant, the widespread use of aspirin during the winter that followed the end of The Great War could have been one of the key factors that contributed to the earlier pandemic by suppressing the immune system and lowering body temperatures that allowed the flu virus to multiply. Like aspirin, modern-day antiviral drugs like Tamiflu® and Relenza® also lower body temperatures.

from
_proliberty.com/observer/20051017.htm

TAMIFLU RESISTANCE
Recent outbreaks of the Swine Flu have been shown to be Tamiflu® resistant. On Sept 10 Health officials reported what may be the first instance of a Tamiflu-resistant swine flu virus spreading from one person to another.

ASPIRIN ALTERNATIVE - Kakkon-to: TJ-1
Kampo is a very big name in Japan and its products are well researched and documented. Here is one example of one of their formulas vs aspirin in combating pnuemonia via influenza virus. Aspirin, the most commonly used medication for treating the common cold and flu in the West, is a pain relieving and antipyretic agent derived from a chemical modification of ingredients in the bark of the willow tree (Salix alba). But some 2000 years ago, long before aspirin was discovered, a Chinese medical classic called the Shokan-ron already had described several different types of medicines for colds, one of which was Kakkon-to.

Dr. Kimiyasu Shiraki, professor at the Virus Research Labs of Toyama Medical & Pharmaceutical University, recently reported the findings of research comparing the healing activity of Tsumura's Kakkon-to (TJ-1) and aspirin on influenza-infected mice. The experiment, done on the DBA/2Cr strain of mice, which readily develop symptoms of fever after inhaling the influenza virus, was designed to evaluate the effectiveness of Kakkon-to on mice infected in this way. The researchers noted that, unlike mice given just water, those treated with Kakkon-to did not develop a high fever after 1-2 days of virus infection. It was also noted that treatment with Kakkon-to helped the mice recover more quickly from weight loss, a symptom of influenza in mice, and lowered the mortality rate by preventing the onset of pneumonia. In order to further examine their respective effectiveness, antipyretic action and preventive effect against pneumonia, Kakkon-to and aspirin were compared with respect to several pathological aspects of influenza-induced fever. Specifically, comparison focused on production of cytokines, which aid an animal's defense against the influenza virus. The experiment found that Kakkon-to did not affect the increase in interferon activity caused by the viral infection, nor did the levels of IL-2 and TNF-alpha in the blood show any change.

In other words Kakkon-to is a more effective treatment to fight the influenza and associated pneumonia - it might even save your life - based on the history of aspirin's effect during the 1918 pandemic.


Kakkon-to can be found here:
__happyherbalist.com/browseproducts/Kudzu-Rx-Tablets.HTML


Again - that suite101 article is definitely suspicious - since it deliberately does not mention the known historical facts of typeA influenza pandemics- decontextualised to mislead.



VIRAL RESISTANCE - TJ-41
Also - with repect to boosting your immune system and protecting against viruses. The far eastern TJ-41 has a proven track record.

It goes by the name
(Hochu-ekki-to: Japanese)
or
(Bu Zhong Yi Qi Wan: Chinese)

It can be found here:
__activeherb.com/qivive/

this infomation was gleaned from an important thread on flutrackers.
__flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104397


all the best

rejoice - the Lord's victory approaches

john
(whatweallneedtoknow)

So...other then anecdotal evidence anything else to back up the claim aspirin was bad? :confused:
tulc(just curious) :wave:
 
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Hi everyone,

Since I am new to these boards i wanted to ask if 'others' might send a personal message to visionary - to make sure visionary at least reads.... the findings on the dangers of Aspirin - (It is a historical fact that it contributed to the terrible events during the pandemic in 1918) - and....the same might hold true for this present hour - whatever might come our way. Also please tell your 'faith communities' about the real danger of this vaccination program - tell the people you trust and love...

The Lord is in control
- but he asks us to be diligent in the tasks he gives us.

all the best
WhatWeAllNeedToKnow
(john)
I got the message.
 
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Developed? I thought they were starting to be issued this week? :confused:
tulc(now has no idea what to wear) :sigh:
Well I think their was a bug in the software for the GPS tracking.
(Bit of a power transmission problem)

But the bank interface is working wonderfully :)
 
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Well I think their was a bug in the software for the GPS tracking.
(Bit of a power transmission problem)

But the bank interface is working wonderfully :)

I'm just hoping it's not one of those faux gold looking ones, I really don't have anything that goes with it. :sorry:
tulc(wants something in a nice silver look perhaps?) :confused:
 
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Hi Visionary

Good to see you got the message - great.

Tulc - well one may consider it anecdotal - but it was published in a homeopathic journal - seems that homeopathic info (and soon the discontinuation of homeopathic medications (as gracechick mentions), under Codex Alimentarus - effective Dec 31, this year) - is not popular to mainstream medicine - but with respect to the info - I felt the Lord lead me to it. So it is not just the info - but the Lord's leading - that led me to share that.

All the best to you all.
john - (What WeAllNeedToKnow)
 
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Hi Visionary

Good to see you got the message - great.

Tulc - well one may consider it anecdotal - but it was published in a homeopathic journal - seems that homeopathic info (and soon the discontinuation of homeopathic medications (as gracechick mentions), under Codex Alimentarus - effective Dec 31, this year) - is not popular to mainstream medicine - but with respect to the info - I felt the Lord lead me to it. So it is not just the info - but the Lord's leading - that led me to share that.

All the best to you all.
john - (What WeAllNeedToKnow)

I'm curious how rigorous they are in accepting articles in the Journal? Likewise when you say the Lord led you to this info how did that work? I'm not making fun or anything like that but when someone comes on here, says the Lord led them to something I think it's only right they explain what's meant by that. Don't you? :wave:
tulc(has met too many odd people who claim "The Lords leading me" without having a caution light go off when he hears those words) :sorry:
 
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It looks like this has legs.

I realized this morning that the permanently-affixed rfid bracelets may be for the dead, not the living:

RFID chips used to track dead after Katrina - CNET News

"Disaster relief crews are adopting radio frequency tags to help them identify victims of Hurricane Katrina.
The U.S. Disaster Mortuary Operational Response Team (DMORT) and health officials in Mississippi's Harrison County are implanting human cadavers with RFID chips from VeriChip in an effort to speed up the process of identifying victims and providing information to families, VeriChip said Friday. In addition, the County Medical Examiner's office in Lafayette County, Miss., said it will stock RFID chips and scanners for future disaster relief. Louisiana is also expected to begin using the system soon, which should help officials cope with the estimated 500 unidentified bodies in the state. "
 
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hmmm if by "legs" you mean "something completely different from what the OP describes" then, yeah, it can be said it has "legs". :sorry:
So...does this mean dead people are going to be fined thousands and sent to camps? :scratch:
tulc(never gets to go to camp) :sigh:
 
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