If You Refuse Vaccine And Bracelet You Go To A "camp"

Carey · Oct 2, 2009

Cabal said:
No, no, please, all the conspiracy theorists, don't take the vaccine.

If the virus comes and goes, then we won't have to be subjected to any more conspiracy theories

How would he get this much power unless it was a conspiracy??

With brute force??

Revelations 13 : 7He was given power to make war against the saints( true Christians ) and to conquer them. And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. 8All inhabitants of the earth

visionary · Oct 2, 2009

I guess it depends on which lenses do you perceive the world. Is it handled by those who are looking out for our own good, and are working to help us live a better life, or is the world increasingly being manipulated by big corp through gov and manipulate media streams to promote propoganda and our worse nightmare is soon upon us.

The general population of Germany before the war would have never believe to what extremes would be forced and to what ends. Once in control, the main population body went along with it in submission, while the few fought.

tulc · Oct 3, 2009

Carey said:
How would he get this much power unless it was a conspiracy??

With brute force??

Revelations 13 : 7He was given power to make war against the saints( true Christians ) and to conquer them. And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. 8All inhabitants of the earth

Wait, is the conspiracy to get people TO get the shot or to NOT get the shot?
tulc(still wondering if the dead people get to go to camp?)

MrJDSmith · Oct 3, 2009

tulc said:
Wait, is the conspiracy to get people TO get the shot or to NOT get the shot?
tulc(still wondering if the dead people get to go to camp?)

Either one will do.
We will get you either way.

WhatWeAllNeedToKnow · Oct 6, 2009

Just to add more support to the danger of aspirin when treating a pandemic... (do recognise that the swine flu issue has experts extremely cautious to announce it is over - pandemics are known to come in waves)

___eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-10/idso-amm100209.php

Aspirin misuse may have made 1918 flu pandemic worse

The devastation of the 1918-1919 influenza pandemic is well known, but a new article suggests a surprising factor in the high death toll: the misuse of aspirin. Appearing in the November 1 issue of Clinical Infectious Diseases and available online now, the article sounds a cautionary note as present day concerns about the novel H1N1 virus run high.

High aspirin dosing levels used to treat patients during the 1918-1919 pandemic are now known to cause, in some cases, toxicity and a dangerous build up of fluid in the lungs, which may have contributed to the incidence and severity of symptoms, bacterial infections, and mortality. Additionally, autopsy reports from 1918 are consistent with what we know today about the dangers of aspirin toxicity, as well as the expected viral causes of death.

The motivation behind the improper use of aspirin is a cautionary tale, said author Karen Starko, MD. In 1918, physicians did not fully understand either the dosing or pharmacology of aspirin, yet they were willing to recommend it. Its use was promoted by the drug industry, endorsed by doctors wanting to "do something," and accepted by families and institutions desperate for hope.

adding this info to what was already posted

WhatWeAllNeedToKnow · Oct 9, 2009

The revelations that the Swine Flu Virus originated in a lab and may be designed to mutate with the coming campaign of mandatory vaccines suggests that not only must we say no to the vaccine, but we must share this information with our friends, loved-ones and local communities at large - We must organize to take steps to stop this mass vaccination program.

___youtube.com/watch?v=hWGv8T0POi4

pgp_protector · Oct 9, 2009

Any word on when they're going to force you to take the Vaccine or send you to a "camp" ?

stelow · Oct 9, 2009

pgp_protector said:
Any word on when they're going to force you to take the Vaccine or send you to a "camp" ?

It's really sad that confessing Christians are the ones who would spread this type of propaganda.

Psalm 56:11 "In God I have put my trust;
I will not be afraid.
What can man do to me?"

Psalm 118:6 "The LORD is on my side;
I will not fear.
What can man do to me?"

Matthew 10:28 "And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

WhatWeAllNeedToKnow · Oct 10, 2009

From everything i have studied - suggests that vaccines themselves form a central component to the mutation of the virus itself - althought everything seems under control, - other preparations are underway - suggesting that with the introduction of the vaccines - new opportunity will exist for it to recombine -- creating a very dangerous situation - a very virulent situation

I have studed this, to the best of my ability...

I diifer to say this is propaganda - despite my respect of you, stelow- that is an unfair inference

yes trust is good - but what about action:

“A Jewish man was traveling on a trip from Jerusalem to Jericho, and he was attacked by bandits. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him up, and left him half dead beside the road. By chance a priest came along. But when he saw the man lying there, he crossed to the other side of the road and passed him by. A Temple assistant walked over and looked at him lying there, but he also passed by on the other side. Then a despised Samaritan came along, and when he saw the man, he felt compassion for him. Going over to him, the Samaritan soothed his wounds with olive oil and wine and bandaged them. Then he put the man on his own donkey and took him to an inn, where he took care of him. The next day he handed the innkeeper two silver coins, telling him, ‘Take care of this man. If his bill runs higher than this, I’ll pay you the next time I’m here.’ “Now which of these three would you say was a neighbor to the man who was attacked by bandits?” Jesus asked. The man replied, “The one who showed him mercy.” Then Jesus said, “Yes, now go and do the same.”

I am deeply concerned about this rush to mass vaccination...

We need to be watchful

Just SAY NO to the VACCINE

although everything seems calm at the moment - we all need to be mindful - wise as serpents and innocent as doves

I have tried to share this concern with my (hereditary) brother
and will continue to do so... yet he remains sceptical like so may others.

Despite our difference - we all are commited to the same cause -

stelow · Oct 10, 2009

If You Refuse Vaccine And Bracelet You Go To A "camp"

I judge the title of the OP's thread to be promoting propaganda.

propaganda - the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person

Ringo84 · Oct 10, 2009

byhisstripes said:
Swine Flu Update

Current Swine Flu News and Information

Currently viewing and reading

LINK: Plans for ?vaccine? bracelets to be forced on people at road blocks

Plans for vaccine bracelets to be forced on people at road blocks

Posted by birdflu666 in July 30th 2009

Former Kansas State Trooper Greg Evensen reports that there are plans for road-blocks to force vaccines with military personnel putting bracelets on people. Those who refuse to take the steel band with a microchip will be put on a prison bus and taken to a quarantine camp.
Evensen also says he believes that many law enforcement officers will reject using this Gestapo approach on their fellow citizens, and will question the legitimacy of the orders of what looks like a bunch of criminals in federal government who appear to be seeking to retain their grip on power by setting up an apparatus of state terror, all too reminiscent of that if Nazi Germany where the inmates of concentration camps like Buchenwald were killed by injections in the heart.
Law enforcement officers anxious to restore law and order and arrest really dangerous criminals should look no further than at the people sitting in the top echelons of government, he hints.
Have you been made aware of the massive roadblock plans to stop all travelers for a vaccine bracelet (stainless steel band with a micro-chip on board) that will force you to take the shot? Refuse it? You will be placed on a prison bus and taken to a quarantine camp. What will you do when your children are NOT allowed into school without the shot? What will you do when you are not allowed into the workplace without the vaccine paperwork? Buy groceries? Go to the bank? Shop anywhere?? Get on a plane, bus or train? Use the toilet in the mall? Nope. Police officers will become loathed, feared, despised and remembered for their official duties, writes Evensen.
Greg Evensen -- The Death of Liberty: The Final Scene Unfolds
Note: There are significant numbers of officers at all levels that simply detest the forced training at FEMA centers, the requirements to stop Patriots and others simply because they look dangerous, and are exercising free speech statements on their vehicles. By whose ultimate authority does this take place? By whose ultimate judgment is it that it is necessary to harass INNOCENT drivers and families? The public sees this Gestapo mentality as far more of a danger than any stickers they put on their vehicles? Where are all these faithful enforcers of the law when it comes to confronting the unlawful, unconstitutional, unjustifiable, and unmerciful rotten bunch of usurpers, communists, atheists, deviated, immoral scungebuckets that are walking the halls of Congress, the White House, and the Federal Courts? How is it that the get em at any cost morons at Homeland Security have created an environment in amerika that is an unwarranted intrusion of power in 186 other nations?
So, once again, I implore those officers of the law who are in grave doubt about the legitimate authenticity of their superiors in any agency, to simply read the constitution, re-read their oath of office, seek out retired officers for guidance, and remember this very carefullyto brutalize citizens in the pursuit of order, is a guaranteed recipe for resistance. PLEASE do not pit yourselves (all 650,000 officers at all levels in the US) against a seething and angry populace who outnumber you 5000 to 1. Believe me; you want all of us working with you, not against you.

ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS:

LINK:Do Not Take A Swine Flu Vaccine! Dprogram.net

Do Not Take A Swine Flu Vaccine!
Posted by sakerfa on April 25, 2009
Letter to Jeff Rense of Rense.com from Patricia Doyle, PhD
Hello Jeff -

I am making a plea to everyone who reads this, please, please DO NOT TAKE ANY VACCINE THAT IS PURPORTED TO PREVENT THIS FLU.
Remember 1976 and the so called Swine Flu outbreak that was purported to be a coming pandemic? It only infected recruits at Ft. Dix. Why? Because I believe that the so called Swine Flu virus infected the recruits due to the vaccines they were given. Whether the government developed the Swine Flu 1976 virus and infected the recruits as a means to test the public to see if people would comply with a call to take vaccination against Swine Flu, or the recruits became infected via contaminated vaccine they were given as part of the recruit regimen, that outbreak was as phony as they come. I was one of the people duped into taking a Swine Flu shot and it made me so sick. I was sick in bed for three months after taking the vaccine.
Do not take seasonal flu vaccine if you are told that it could help prevent this brand new Swine Flu variant. It wont do a thing to prevent this flu. What it will do is serve up new genetic material to the Swine Flu virus that I have dubbed Spanish Flu 2, the Sequel. The Spanish Flu variant will use the gene sequences in the vaccine in humans to develop more of the changes that make the virus more readily infect humans. We do not want to give this virus more human genetic material so that it will infect humans more readily person to person. This is what vaccinated individuals do for pandemic strains.
There is also a safety issue in any experimental vaccine, much like the one in 1976. Some people even feel that such a vaccine for pandemic strain might require more than one vaccination which could actually be a binary set up. The first shot might just add some genetic code that stays dormant in the body until one gets the second vaccine shot which then serves to only cause infection. It could trigger Guillain-barre syndrome, Typhus or some other condition.
An Influenza vaccine does not protect or prevent a person from contracting flu. It is purported to, maybe, prevent some complications of flu and maybe shorten duration. I am not even sure it does that. Personally, I feel the vaccine weakens our immune system and also sickens us due to contaminants in the vaccine. I feel that people can better protect themselves by washing hands often and thoroughly. People should also use protective gloves when out and about during epidemics. Dont be afraid of looking odd. I would not be ashamed to use a mask and gloves. I see that the Mexicans are using them.
A big problem during a pandemic is that these simple supplies will become extremely scarce awfully quickly. Stock up now. Medical supplies. personal hygene supplies and dont forget fido, or any other pet. Once a pandemic hits, it will be too late to stock up. Water, too.
We may lose clean water and electric power, so be prepared.
So, please, people, DONT TAKE ANY VACCINES OFFERED. THEY COULD KILL YOU BEFORE ANY VIRUS KILLS YOU.
Pat Doyle
Patricia A. Doyle DVM, PhD Bus Admin, Tropical Agricultural Economics Univ of West Indies Please visit my Emerging Diseases message board at: http://www.emergingdisease.org/phpbb/index.php Also my new website: Dr. P Doyle's Emerging Infectious Disease Updates Zhan le Devlesa tai sastimasa Go with God and in Good Health
Source: Rense
(here is a link to go to to back up her story on the 1976 swine flu outbreak)
Swine Influenza A Outbreak, Fort Dix, NJ, 1976 | CDC EID

Perhaps you need more coffee, as none of this is true.
Ringo

brinny · Oct 10, 2009

i will be refusing it....

hi ho hi ho...it's off to jail i gooooo...!

stelow · Oct 10, 2009

Colossians 3:12-17
12 Therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, put on tender mercies, kindness, humility, meekness, longsuffering; 13 bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if anyone has a complaint against another; even as Christ forgave you, so you also must do. 14 But above all these things put on love, which is the bond of perfection. 15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful. 16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. 17 And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.

stelow · Oct 12, 2009

Symptom
Cold
Swine Flu
Fever

Fever is rare with a cold.
Fever is usually present with the flu in up to 80% of all flu cases. A temperature of 100°F or higher for 3 to 4 days is associated with the flu.

Coughing

A hacking, productive (mucus- producing) cough is often present with a cold.
A nonproductive (non-mucus producing) cough is usually present with the flu (sometimes referred to as dry cough).

Aches

Slight body aches and pains can be part of a cold.
Severe aches and pains are common with the flu.

Stuffy Nose

Stuffy nose is commonly present with a cold and typically resolves spontaneously within a week.
Stuffy nose is not commonly present with the flu.

Chills

Chills are uncommon with a cold.
60% of people who have the flu experience chills.

Tiredness

Tiredness is fairly mild with a cold.
Tiredness is moderate to severe with the flu.

Sneezing

Sneezing is commonly present with a cold.
Sneezing is not common with the flu.

Sudden Symptoms

Cold symptoms tend to develop over a few days.
The flu has a rapid onset within 3-6 hours. The flu hits hard and includes sudden symptoms like high fever, aches and pains.

Headache

A headache is fairly uncommon with a cold.
A headache is very common with the flu, present in 80% of flu cases.

Sore Throat

Sore throat is commonly present with a cold.
Sore throat is not commonly present with the flu.

Chest Discomfort

Chest discomfort is mild to moderate with a cold.
Chest discomfort is often severe with the flu.

ThankGodforGod · Oct 12, 2009

stelow said:
Symptom
Cold
Swine Flu
Fever
Fever is rare with a cold.
Fever is usually present with the flu in up to 80% of all flu cases. A temperature of 100°F or higher for 3 to 4 days is associated with the flu.

Coughing
A hacking, productive (mucus- producing) cough is often present with a cold.
A nonproductive (non-mucus producing) cough is usually present with the flu (sometimes referred to as dry cough).

Aches
Slight body aches and pains can be part of a cold.
Severe aches and pains are common with the flu.

Stuffy Nose
Stuffy nose is commonly present with a cold and typically resolves spontaneously within a week.
Stuffy nose is not commonly present with the flu.

Chills
Chills are uncommon with a cold.
60% of people who have the flu experience chills.

Tiredness
Tiredness is fairly mild with a cold.
Tiredness is moderate to severe with the flu.

Sneezing
Sneezing is commonly present with a cold.
Sneezing is not common with the flu.

Sudden Symptoms
Cold symptoms tend to develop over a few days.
The flu has a rapid onset within 3-6 hours. The flu hits hard and includes sudden symptoms like high fever, aches and pains.

Headache
A headache is fairly uncommon with a cold.
A headache is very common with the flu, present in 80% of flu cases.

Sore Throat
Sore throat is commonly present with a cold.
Sore throat is not commonly present with the flu.

Chest Discomfort
Chest discomfort is mild to moderate with a cold.
Chest discomfort is often severe with the flu.

I know my college is treating ALL flu like symptoms as H1N1 and telling anyone with a fever to stay home. This far into it I would say that if you do have a sudden, high (higher than 100 F) fever you probably don't have H1N1.

ThankGodforGod · Oct 12, 2009

brinny said:
i will be refusing it....

hi ho hi ho...it's off to jail i gooooo...!

No one is taking you to jail. You might end up with a huge bill for a week in the hospital or maybe nothing. Those of us who do take the vaccine won't have to deal with either. Thus far I am not familiar with a SINGLE case of any adverse effects due to the vaccine alone. Should there not be tons or has the microchip not been switched on yet?

stelow · Oct 12, 2009

Here's a reply from a nurse, about the mandate for health care workers in NY state, that they either take the vaccines or loose their jobs.

I AM A NURSE IN A SMALL HOSPITAL IN THE SOUTHERN TIER OF NY. MOST OF US RESENT THE FACT THAT OUR JOBS ARE BEING HELD AS HOSTAGE IN THE ATTEMPT TO FORCE US TO TAKE A VACCINE INTO BODIES THAT WE DO NOT WANT OR TRUST. IS THERE ANY WAY TO BAND TOGETHER TO FIGHT THIS. IS THERE A PETITION TO SIGN OR SOMEONE TO CONTACT TO LET THEM KNOW WE REFUSE TO CO-OPERATE. IT IS TIME FOR US TO ALL TAKE A UNITED STAND OR TOGETHER WE WILL ALL FALL!!!

stelow · Oct 12, 2009

ThankGodforGod said:
Thus far I am not familiar with a SINGLE case of any adverse effects due to the vaccine alone.

Big Pharma would not reveal any if there has been; mass vaccinations has not really got into full swing yet, but anytime a foreign substance is injected into the body there will be side effects, some will be mild but there also will be adverse side effects. They have no way of knowing the long term side effects yet, we will soon find out. Just like the sudden appearance of Autism in children that's being blamed on the Mercury based additives to preserve the vaccines given to babies.

Drekkan85 · Oct 13, 2009

stelow said:
Big Pharma would not reveal any if there has been; mass vaccinations has not really got into full swing yet, but anytime a foreign substance is injected into the body there will be side effects, some will be mild but there also will be adverse side effects. They have no way of knowing the long term side effects yet, we will soon find out. Just like the sudden appearance of Autism in children that's being blamed on the Mercury based additives to preserve the vaccines given to babies.

First part, likely right (though frequently the adverse symptoms are lower than the disease you're afflicted with). Then you swing into wing-nut ville. Autism is not linked with vaccines, nor with the preservatives used in vaccines.

As for nurses being vaccinated - that's just common sense. They're dealing with a huge number of sick individuals, some of whom have vastly compromised immune systems. They're putting many lives at risk if they're NOT vaccinated.

ThankGodforGod · Oct 13, 2009

stelow said:
Here's a reply from a nurse, about the mandate for health care workers in NY state, that they either take the vaccines or loose their jobs.

I AM A NURSE IN A SMALL HOSPITAL IN THE SOUTHERN TIER OF NY. MOST OF US RESENT THE FACT THAT OUR JOBS ARE BEING HELD AS HOSTAGE IN THE ATTEMPT TO FORCE US TO TAKE A VACCINE INTO BODIES THAT WE DO NOT WANT OR TRUST. IS THERE ANY WAY TO BAND TOGETHER TO FIGHT THIS. IS THERE A PETITION TO SIGN OR SOMEONE TO CONTACT TO LET THEM KNOW WE REFUSE TO CO-OPERATE. IT IS TIME FOR US TO ALL TAKE A UNITED STAND OR TOGETHER WE WILL ALL FALL!!!

Good, the last thing we need is health care workers giving someone who came in for a minor operation H1N1.

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