If you Love Me - KEEP My Commandments

[BobRyan]

2 Corinthians 3:7-11New International Version (NIV)
The Greater Glory of the New Covenant
7 Now if the ministry that brought death , which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, transitory though it was, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious? 9 If the ministry that brought condemnation was glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness

It is the same LAW but in a different location: In the New Covenant it is not merely external - rather it is "written on the heart" -- that Law that Jeremiah and his readers would have known as the moral Law of God - Law that defines sin as even Romans 2:19-21 instructs -- and so also does 1 John 3:4 demand it.

NEW Covenant "I WILL WRITE MY LAW on their heart and mind" -- Jeremiah 31, Hebrews 8.

Thus ends the fallacy - of "imaginary law to be made up latter - written on stone instead of the Commandments on stone as written by the finger of God".

It is a not a "different Law" in that location -- rather it is a different location for that Law as known to Jeremiah.


James 2 - it is clear we are still held accountable for the "He who said" statements in the OT -

James 2
8 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you do well; 9 but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty.

hint; He is quoting the OT text -- the TEN Commandments

I will be judged by Jesus' law of liberty. I will not be judged by the Law of Moses.

Hebrews 8:6-10 says Jesus was the one speaking the TEN Commandments

 

[BobRyan]

What if I do like some folks in Romans 14, and I see every day as alike?

Romans 14 says that one man "OBSERVES one day above another while another man observes all of them. He who observes the day - observes it unto the Lord".

It is not talking about the Gal 4 - condemned pagan days. For which Paul will condemn the Galatians for observing even one of them.

It is talking about the Lev 23 list of annual holy days.

I mean, what exactly did the Lord teach about Sabbath? He taught that is ok to do good on Sabbath.

True before the cross. True after the cross.

Therefore, if I can help my neighbor with some work on Sabbath, then that's ok right?

Not according to the actual Bible.

in the Bible - not helping your neighbor on monday because it is "your time" and only helping him with work on Sabbath - because you don't choose to honor the Sabbath -- is not approved.

 

[W2L]

Romans 14 says that one man "OBSERVES one day above another while another man observes all of them. He who observes the day - observes it unto the Lord".

It is not talking about the Gal 4 - condemned pagan days. For which Paul will condemn the Galatians for observing even one of them.

It is talking about the Lev 23 list of annual holy days.



True before the cross. True after the cross.



Not according to the actual Bible.

in the Bible - not helping your neighbor on monday because it is "your time" and only helping him with work on Sabbath - because you don't choose to honor the Sabbath -- is not approved.

No I'm talking about treating every day alike, and helping others any day, whether its Monday or Saturday. My whole theory here is based on not working to feed our lust but instead working to feed our families an to help others. Surely that is never wrong is it?

 

[Travis93]

The law of Moses is the law of liberty.
Psalms 119:44 So shall I keep thy law continually for ever and ever.
Psalms 119:45 And I will walk at liberty: for I seek thy precepts.

No I'm talking about treating every day alike, and helping others any day, whether its Monday or Saturday. My whole theory here is based on not working to feed our lust but instead working to feed our families an to help others. Surely that is never wrong is it?

Numbers 15:32 And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
Numbers 15:33 And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
Numbers 15:34 And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.
Numbers 15:35 And the Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
Numbers 15:36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses.

 

[W2L]

The law of Moses is the law of liberty.
Psalms 119:44 So shall I keep thy law continually for ever and ever.
Psalms 119:45 And I will walk at liberty: for I seek thy precepts.


Numbers 15:32 And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
Numbers 15:33 And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
Numbers 15:34 And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.
Numbers 15:35 And the Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
Numbers 15:36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses.

Yes but didn't Christ's disciples pick wheat on the Sabbath? Why were they not stoned?


Matthew 12New International Version (NIV)

Jesus Is Lord of the Sabbath

12 At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick some heads of grain and eat them. 2 When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, “Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.”

3 He answered, “Haven’t you read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? 4 He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread—which was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests. 5 Or haven’t you read in the Law that the priests on Sabbath duty in the temple desecrate the Sabbath and yet are innocent? 6 I tell you that something greater than the temple is here. 7 If you had known what these words mean, ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice,’[a] you would not have condemned the innocent. 8 For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

 

[W2L]

What if I'm poor, and I work all week to feed my family. Is it wrong to make house repairs on the Sabbath? Or to work in my garden, or mow the grass? What is God wanting from us on Sabbath? Is it to do nothing at all, or is it to refrain from doing evil? He mentions in Isaiah 58 that he wishes them not to exploit their laborers on Sabbath. Is it good or bad to find enjoyment in something that is not evil on the Sabbath? What if I have a hobby that I like to do, such as woodworking for example. Is it wrong to do that o the Sabbath?

Matthew 12:1 He said to them, “If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? 12 How much more valuable is a person than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”

 

[Jan001]

"NO other foundation can any one lay than that which WAS laid" -- and what in your view - is that foundation?



No text says that --

Here is one that fully refutes it.

1 Cor 3
5 What then is Apollos? And what is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, even as the Lord gave opportunity to each one. 6 I planted, Apollos watered, but God was causing the growth. 7 So then neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but God who causes the growth. 8 Now he who plants and he who waters are one; but each will receive his own reward according to his own labor. 9 For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, God’s building.
10 According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each man must be careful how he builds on it. 11 For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

Like I wrote before and posted Scriptures for previously, Jesus Christ is the cornerstone/ROCK of His Church. However, Peter's and the other apostles' and their faithful disciples' teachings comprise the remainder of this FOUNDATION OF TRUTH/CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST. The foundation of the faith of Jesus is Himself and His Church hierarchy which speaks for Him. Matthew 16:18-19, Matthew 18:15-19, Ephesians 2:19-21, Luke 10:16

1 Timothy 3:15
if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth. niv

The Church is the pillar/support and foundation/ground of the truth.

Many Christians on this board are more inclined to accept the Bible as their source for doctrine rather than merely "quoting you" -- and I think you would agree with me on this point.

Your doctrine does not survive 1 Corinthians 3.

Paul is teaching in 1 Corinthians 3 that it does not matter which one of the faithful Church leaders baptized you and/or taught you the faith. What matters is that you were baptized and taught the faith by faithful Church leaders. The popularity of the individual Church leader is not important. What is important is that they all preach the same exact thing.

1 Corinthians 3:10-11
According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. kjv

1 Thessalonians 5:12-14
But we beseech you, brethren, to respect those who labor among you and are over you in the Lord and admonish you, 13 and to esteem them very highly in love because of their work. Be at peace among yourselves. 14 And we exhort you, brethren, admonish the idlers, encourage the fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with them all. rsv
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Jesus Christ will judge the people who believe that the Bible is their source for doctrine.

Jesus Christ will judge the people who believe that His Church and its heirarchy is the foundation of His truth.

 

[Jan001]

"You don't think"?
But you already ADMITTED you don't have faith in Jesus.
You already confessed you trust men instead.
GOD'S WORD says what I said and what I believe.
I THINK what GOD'S WORD SAYS IS TRUE. Not what the disobedient ones you trust say.
There's no reason you've given that what you think is in line with God's Word. Just the opposite. "IN FACT".
You are "in line with" men and men's traditions CONTRARY to God's Word.
You said so in your posts.

I do have faith in Jesus and that is why I do what He tells me to do.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+6:46&version=RSV

Luke 6:46
Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you? rsv​

Jesus tells me to listen to His Church. He appointed leaders for His Church. He commands me to listen to them and to do what they tell me to do, and then I will not ever be guilty of believing in doctrines that are contrary to His own gospel.

Luke 10:16
“He who hears you (appointed hierarchy) hears me, and he who rejects you rejects me, and he who rejects me rejects him who sent me.” rsv

1 Thessalonians 5:12-14
But we beseech you, brethren, to respect those who labor among you and are over you in the Lord and admonish you, 13 and to esteem them very highly in love because of their work. Be at peace among yourselves. 14 And we exhort you, brethren, admonish the idlers, encourage the fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with them all. rsv

Hebrews 13:7, 17
Remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God; consider the outcome of their life, and imitate their faith........17 Obey your leaders and submit to them; for they are keeping watch over your souls, as men who will have to give account. Let them do this joyfully, and not sadly, for that would be of no advantage to you. rsv

Matthew 18:17
If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. rsv​

 

[W2L]

I do have faith in Jesus and that is why I do what He tells me to do.

Luke 6:46
Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you? rsv​

Jesus tells me to listen to His Church. He appointed leaders for His Church. He commands me to listen to them and to do what they tell me to do, and then I will not ever be guilty of believing in doctrines that are contrary to His own gospel.

Luke 10:16
“He who hears you (appointed hierarchy) hears me, and he who rejects you rejects me, and he who rejects me rejects him who sent me.” rsv

1 Thessalonians 5:12-14
But we beseech you, brethren, to respect those who labor among you and are over you in the Lord and admonish you, 13 and to esteem them very highly in love because of their work. Be at peace among yourselves. 14 And we exhort you, brethren, admonish the idlers, encourage the fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with them all. rsv

Hebrews 13:7, 17
Remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God; consider the outcome of their life, and imitate their faith........17 Obey your leaders and submit to them; for they are keeping watch over your souls, as men who will have to give account. Let them do this joyfully, and not sadly, for that would be of no advantage to you. rsv

Matthew 18:17
If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. rsv​

So in other words, anyone who doesn't follow Catholicism is a heathen and a tax collector?

 

[1John2:4]

I was referring to keeping the Sabbath. Read my post again and show me how I was not referring to Sabbath. What part of my post could describe not keeping the Sabbath?

" Therefore, if I can help my neighbor with some work on Sabbath, then that's ok right? A man is worth more that a sheep right? Also, if I can help my neighbor then surely I can help my own family too, and if I need to work on Sabbath to feed them then that's ok too right?"

Exodus 20:9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Exodus 21:14 You shall keep the Sabbath, therefore, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people.

Leviticus 23:3 Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, a holy convocation. You shall do no work on it; it is the Sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.

Deuteronomy 5:14 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your ox, nor your donkey, nor any of your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates, that your male servant and your female servant may rest as well as you.

 

[W2L]

" Therefore, if I can help my neighbor with some work on Sabbath, then that's ok right? A man is worth more that a sheep right? Also, if I can help my neighbor then surely I can help my own family too, and if I need to work on Sabbath to feed them then that's ok too right?"

Exodus 20:9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Exodus 21:14 You shall keep the Sabbath, therefore, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people.

Leviticus 23:3 Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, a holy convocation. You shall do no work on it; it is the Sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.

Deuteronomy 5:14 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your ox, nor your donkey, nor any of your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates, that your male servant and your female servant may rest as well as you.

Yes but didn't Christ's disciples pick wheat on the Sabbath? Why were they not stoned?


Matthew 12New International Version (NIV)

Jesus Is Lord of the Sabbath

12 At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick some heads of grain and eat them. 2 When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, “Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.”

3 He answered, “Haven’t you read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? 4 He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread—which was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests. 5 Or haven’t you read in the Law that the priests on Sabbath duty in the temple desecrate the Sabbath and yet are innocent? 6 I tell you that something greater than the temple is here. 7 If you had known what these words mean, ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice,’[a] you would not have condemned the innocent. 8 For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

 

[Jan001]

There is no power on Earth that can make me believe Peter was the first pope. Anyone can broadcast anything, but as we can see by history there was no line of succession starting with Peter. Peter, in scripture, never indicated He was the head of the church. That claim by the Catholic Church is as false as many of the real popes down through the ages. The history of the Catholic Church is not very inspiring, sad to say.

For the first 300 years, all the popes were martyred!

Here are some early church fathers' writings about the head of Jesus Christ's Catholic Church. http://www.catholic.com/tracts/peters-successors

I believe the longevity of the Catholic Church is truly inspiring. Jesus Christ's Catholic Church has remained on earth for approx. 2000 years! It will remain until He returns at the end of time. Matthew 16:18-19, Matthew 28:18-20

Jesus Christ's Catholic Church has survived and flourished for approx. 2000 years despite the personal sinfulness of its leaders and its members. Even Jesus had a betrayer, Judas, who was one of His own chosen twelve apostles. The other eleven did not betray Him to His enemies and so it is with His Church throughout the ages. His gospel remains true because as supreme Head/ROCK of His Catholic Church, He prevents His Catholic Church's leader/Rock/pope (papa) on earth and the other bishops in agreement with Him from teaching errors regarding faith and morals.

I can trust Jesus' Catholic Church because it is guided into all truth by the Holy Spirit. John 16:13

I know that the Catholic Church is Jesus' Church because He gave His keys of the kingdom of heaven to the first leader (Peter) of His Church on earth and these keys of Peter's office have been passed down throughout the ages until today (Pope Francis has them now) and they will continue to be passed down until He returns at His second coming and takes re-possession of them. Matthew 16:18-19

Once a doctrine is defined by this Catholic Church, it can never be changed and this is because truth is truth, and established truth cannot change later on into something that is contrary.

 

[1John2:4]

What if I'm poor, and I work all week to feed my family. Is it wrong to make house repairs on the Sabbath? Or to work in my garden, or mow the grass? What is God wanting from us on Sabbath? Is it to do nothing at all, or is it to refrain from doing evil? He mentions in Isaiah 58 that he wishes them not to exploit their laborers on Sabbath. Is it good or bad to find enjoyment in something that is not evil on the Sabbath? What if I have a hobby that I like to do, such as woodworking for example. Is it wrong to do that o the Sabbath?

Matthew 12:1 He said to them, “If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? 12 How much more valuable is a person than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”

Do good, (honor God) not work or make someone else work. Healing brings people to God, the Kohanim worked on the Sabbath honoring God by offering additional sacrifices and they were found blameless. It is not written that Yeshua did regular work on the Sabbath. He did not say, instead of going to the synagogue lets go fishing because we are poor and need money for our ministry. He did not say, after synagogue, lets go down and get some lunch then go to the market to get some sandals. Yeshua did not break the commandments of the Father. He was addressing hypocrites and man made traditions that were added to the law making it a burden. If he broke the commandments he would have had sin and would not have been perfect.

 

[W2L]

Do good, (honor God) not work or make someone else work. Healing brings people to God, the Kohanim worked on the Sabbath honoring God by offering additional sacrifices and they were found blameless. It is not written that Yeshua did regular work on the Sabbath. He did not say, instead of going to the synagogue lets go fishing because we are poor and need money for our ministry. He did not say, after synagogue, lets go down and get some lunch then go to the market to get some sandals. Yeshua did not break the commandments of the Father. He was addressing hypocrites and man made traditions that were added to the law making it a burden. If he broke the commandments he would have had sin and would not have been perfect.

Yes but didn't Christ's disciples pick wheat on the Sabbath? Why were they not stoned?


Matthew 12New International Version (NIV)

Jesus Is Lord of the Sabbath

12 At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick some heads of grain and eat them. 2 When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, “Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.”

3 He answered, “Haven’t you read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? 4 He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread—which was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests. 5 Or haven’t you read in the Law that the priests on Sabbath duty in the temple desecrate the Sabbath and yet are innocent? 6 I tell you that something greater than the temple is here. 7 If you had known what these words mean, ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice,’[a] you would not have condemned the innocent. 8 For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

 

[1John2:4]

Yes but didn't Christ's disciples pick wheat on the Sabbath? Why were they not stoned?


Matthew 12New International Version (NIV)

Jesus Is Lord of the Sabbath

12 At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick some heads of grain and eat them. 2 When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, “Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.”

3 He answered, “Haven’t you read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? 4 He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread—which was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests. 5 Or haven’t you read in the Law that the priests on Sabbath duty in the temple desecrate the Sabbath and yet are innocent? 6 I tell you that something greater than the temple is here. 7 If you had known what these words mean, ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice,’[a] you would not have condemned the innocent. 8 For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

Were is it commanded in Torah that a person is not allowed to pick food and eat it on the Sabbath? That was a burden, do you know that some Orthodox Jews pre tear or buy pre torn toilette paper for the Sabbath. That was what Yeshua was disputing creating burdens and lording over other people with man made traditions that were added to God's commandments.

If you want to keep Sabbath, I encourage you my brother, it is an absolute blessing, if you do not that is between you and God. However, I do not believe that Yeshua was teaching others to disobey God's Sabbath or any other commandments. He did preach that we do not live by bread alone but by every word that comes from the Father.

 

[Jan001]

When did Pope Francis get anew name?

Jesus changed Simon's name to Peter (Rock) because He was establishing the office of chief steward in His Church. Successor chief stewards are not required to change their names.

A newly elected pope may take for himself the name of a Saint that he admires in order to honor the Saint and to ask for his intercession with Jesus. Philippians 2:3, 1 Peter 3:12, Hebrews 12:1
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+2:3&version=RSV
Jorge Mario Bergoglio has chosen to be called Pope Francis I in honor of St. Francis of Assisi.

 

[Aldebaran]

Jesus changed Simon's name to Peter (Rock) because He was establishing the office of chief steward in His Church. Successor chief stewards are not required to change their names.

A newly elected pope may take for himself the name of a Saint that he admires in order to honor the Saint and to ask for his intercession with Jesus. Philippians 2:3, 1 Peter 3:12, Hebrews 12:1
Jorge Mario Bergoglio has chosen to be called Pope Francis I in honor of St. Francis of Assisi.

When Christ said, "Upon this Rock", He was talking about the answer Peter gave when he said, "Thou art the Christ, the son of the living God". That's the Rock the church is built on, not Peter.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I do have faith in Jesus and that is why I do what He tells me to do.

He never said to trust any human leader. He said not to.
He has a judgment for those who do.

 

[W2L]

Were is it commanded in Torah that a person is not allowed to pick food and eat it on the Sabbath? That was a burden, do you know that some Orthodox Jews pre tear or buy pre torn toilette paper for the Sabbath. That was what Yeshua was disputing creating burdens and lording over other people with man made traditions that were added to God's commandments.

If you want to keep Sabbath, I encourage you my brother, it is an absolute blessing, if you do not that is between you and God. However, I do not believe that Yeshua was teaching others to disobey God's Sabbath or any other commandments. He did preach that we do not live by bread alone but by every word that comes from the Father.

I donno, I follow the apostles and I don't trust denominations. I wish I had better answer but that's all I have.

 

[Jan001]

Pontifex Maximus -- was the original title of pagan Roman Emperors. We all knew that as well I think.

Loyalty to Rome -- keep Rome's commands and tradition.
Loyalty to the Christian faith - keep the commands in the Bible.

"Pontifex Maximus was one of the many titles of the Emperor," https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontifex_Maximus

Pope (Latin: papa from Greek: πάππας pappas,[1] a child's word for "father") https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope

The Roman leaders/emperors did not call the "head" of the Catholic Church "Pope."

The Roman leaders caused all the heads of the Catholic Church to be murdered until Emperor Constantine legalized Christianity in the 300s A.D. The ordinary Italians did start calling the head of the Catholic Church "pope" which is an Italian child's word for "father." 1 Corinthians 4:15

Abba is an Aramaic child's word for Father which corresponds to the English word Daddy. Mark 14:36, Galatians 4:6, Romans 8:15 Pope is simply a nickname for Papa/Daddy.

Many people were called Jesus/Joshua before Jesus Christ was born. Do you think this makes Jesus Christ our Savior an illegitimate possessor of the name Jesus/Joshua simply because someone else had been given this name before Jesus was given it? Exodus 17:9

Yeshua is the Hebrew name of Jesus Christ, and its English spelling is “Joshua.” Iesous is the Greek transliteration of the Hebrew name, and its English spelling is “Jesus. www.gotquestions.org/Yeshua-Jesus.html

Are you insinuating with your quote "Pontifex Maximus -- was the original title of pagan Roman Emperors" that this title for pagan Roman Emperors pertains to the pope of the Catholic Church?

We Catholic Christians are not pagans. We believe in one God in three Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

I am a Christian belonging to the Catholic Church of Jesus Christ and He is my King. Since I do what my King Jesus tells me to do, I listen to Jesus' representative on earth, Pope Francis, and I do what he tells me to do because this is what Jesus commands me to do. Luke 10:16