Of course his commandments are written on our minds and hearts. But those commandments are not the law of Moses, they are Christ's commands to believe in his name and to love our neighbors.
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Of course his commandments are written on our minds and hearts. But those commandments are not the law of Moses, they are Christ's commands to believe in his name and to love our neighbors.Then do you oppose the Commandments of God as a Christian or do you have them written on the "mind and heart"??
Of course his commandments are written on our minds and hearts. But those commandments are not the law of Moses, they are Christ's commands to believe in his name and to love our neighbors.
So in other words only the 10 are "God's Laws" and the rest are just stuff Moses made up and God didn't care if they were kept or not?
As for your argument about the Sabbath it falls on deaf ears here I've yet to hear a convincing argument that doesn't outright IGNORE scripture in the OT that equates that the 10 commandments are sole property of Israel alone and ONLY theirs to keep.
* The other set of laws was written by Moses as related by God.
Brother, give me a scripture from Paul the apostle that says believers are to keep the law/observe the OT commandments of God. If this is as important as you say it is, then surely Paul would mention it--no?
Well you certainly failed to do what I asked.Eph 6:2 - "honor your father and mother for this is the first commandment with a promise" --
First commandment where??
"what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19
"Not the hearers of the LAW are just before God but the doers of the LAW will be JustiFIED" Rom 2:13
It's about the heart. That's what God judges and that's what provides the motivation for our actions. It's also where God wants us to keep the law written, both in the OT and the NT. Because if the law is written on our hearts we will keep it out of love.This logic is good but there is flaws to it in that you can have two children one who obeys but despises their parents and only wants what they can give them and another that has problems obeying compared to the other but loves their parents and is less interested in reward from them. Does the child who obeys more get favor in the end or the one who loves more? So in the end it is not about the rules or obedience but the heart (love) behind it all.
How about this... You are SDA, no? Give me a scripture from Paul commanding the Sabbath.
This is nonsense, you are now claiming without proof that all but the 10 commandments (and the dietary laws) were nailed to the cross... you have no leg to stand on as there is no scripture divorcing the 600+ from the 10 at all. It is akin to saying diet soda is exactly the same as regular soda when in fact they aren't identical. It is like saying that sinning by breaking commandments is not longer sinning by breaking commandments that you chose to ignore as legitimate. Orthodox Jews who try to keep all the 613 possible as well as possible would strongly disagree with you that you aren't divorcing yourself from the OT and hiring a lawyer to get alimony of the 10 commandments.Moses was never that bold to write his own laws, at least not till later, and also that's not what I said:
Sure God cared, this contained the ceremonial law after all. This was part of what allowed God to reside in the midst of His people. But really most of these laws were only written because Israel had proven that they could not keep the ten commandments. That's why it was kept, as a witness against them Deuteronomy 31:26 . It was because of their rebellion that it was needed. This also was the law that was nailed to the cross as that law was identified and a law that was a witness against us, which is how this was identified.
Yes, I know what your saying about how so many Christians divorce themselves from the OT like it's not even part of scripture any more. It's sad, to lose out on so much wonderful teaching and cutting the bible down to one third. But still for some faiths it makes it easier to defend their positions when you can cut out all the OT teachings I suppose. It's not the people in the pews that are doing this it's the leaders in the churches, that tell the people what they should believe. If only people would pick up their bibles and check it out for themselves, and not depend on others to tell them what scripture says.
If only there were more Bereans today.
We wait to find out why this question cannot be answered by those opposed to God's Commandments.
Not according to your logic...... you are equating obedience with love and one can obey without loving better than one loves without obeying and you would side with the one loving less over the one obeying. At what point does love trump obedience to your logic? What if love was replaced with faith instead? What if a child hated his parents but realized they were filthy rich and obeyed them perfectly while their sibling loved their parents but didn't always obey them... who would the parents choose to inherit? As for the heart issue, it isn't about heart but faith in the first place those who have faith in God will find themselves obeying Jesus edict to love one another and the commandments that are to prohibit hateful deeds will be less broken or not at all.It's about the heart. That's what God judges and that's what provides the motivation for our actions. It's also where God wants us to keep the law written, both in the OT and the NT. Because if the law is written on our hearts we will keep it out of love.
Hebrews 4:9 is not Paul telling believers to keep the Sabbath: He is writing about how the Jews did not enter God's true Sabbath rest, Jesus, because they were going back to the law in unbelief. You shouldn't take verses out of context."what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19
"there remains therefore a SABBATH rest for the people of God" Heb 4:9
Then do you oppose the Commandments of God as a Christian or do you have them written on the "mind and heart"??
Well first thing that's important to know, Jesus did not have a brand new set of commandments. He was quoting the Old Testament Leviticus 19:18 Deuteronomy 6:5 Deuteronomy 10:12 Deuteronomy 11:13 . So, you may ask, if it wasn't new commandments what what was Jesus talking about?So I'm curious, you who say we should "keep" the law, which laws would those be? The ten commandments? The ten commandments plus Christ's commandments? All commandments in the OT and NT? Are you more righteous because you "keep" these commandments? Am I less righteous because I do not "keep" these commandments? You all list yourselves as Messianic and SDA, so I ask, why make the distinction? What happens if a Christian is not Messianic or SDA? Are they still a part of the Body of Christ? Is a Christian wrong because they do not observe the Sabbath?
Just want to see what you believe.
Not according to your logic...... you are equating obedience with love and one can obey without loving better than one loves without obeying and you would side with the one loving less over the one obeying. At what point does love trump obedience to your logic? What if love was replaced with faith instead? What if a child hated his parents but realized they were filthy rich and obeyed them perfectly while their sibling loved their parents but didn't always obey them... who would the parents choose to inherit? As for the heart issue, it isn't about heart but faith in the first place those who have faith in God will find themselves obeying Jesus edict to love one another and the commandments that are to prohibit hateful deeds will be less broken or not at all.
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