If you look at the evolution of evolution, doesn't it seem like it was all for the rise of man...?

[PsychoSarah]

If you look at the evolution of evolution, doesn't it seem like it was all (in preparation for) the rise of mankind (humankind)...?

Or not...?

Comments...?

God Bless!

Evolution has no goals of producing specific organisms. What reproduces and survives successfully is what persists, no more, no less. Humans were not an inevitability.

 

[Neogaia777]

Evolution has no goals of producing specific organisms. What reproduces and survives successfully is what persists, no more, no less. Humans were not an inevitability.

A humanoid like race was... That could do what humans could do...

God Bless!

 

[PsychoSarah]

A humanoid like race was... That could do what humans could do...

God Bless!

No. In fact, if oxygen levels had remained at about 15%, chances are no intelligent organisms would have evolved, due to the oxygen needs of large brains.

 

[Neogaia777]

No. In fact, if oxygen levels had remained at about 15%, chances are no intelligent organisms would have evolved, due to the oxygen needs of large brains.

Yeah, but, they didn't... and that might have been part of the evolution of the environment to...?

 

[Shemjaza]

A humanoid like race was... That could do what humans could do...

God Bless!

Why is that inevitable?

Sine slight climate problems could have wiped out humanity (or recent ancestors) before we got a chance to spread over the planet.

The other primates are smart and have hands, but just don't seem to have the pressure and opportunity to become as intelligent as us.

And nothing else even seems close to becoming an intelligent, technological species.

Yeah, but, they didn't... and that might have been part of the evolution of the environment to...?

I haven't seen any reason to presume the purpose of the environment was to make intelligence. The fact that only one species (and possibly its nearest extinct relatives) had been able to develop technology and high intelligence and millions and millions haven't seems like a slam dunk.

 

[Neogaia777]

Why is that inevitable?

Sine slight climate problems could have wiped out humanity (or recent ancestors) before we got a chance to spread over the planet.

The other primates are smart and have hands, but just don't seem to have the pressure and opportunity to become as intelligent as us.

And nothing else even seems close to becoming an intelligent, technological species.

I haven't seen any reason to presume the purpose of the environment was to make intelligence. The fact that only one species (and possibly its nearest extinct relatives) had been able to develop technology and high intelligence and millions and millions haven't seems like a slam dunk.

So, you think we are rare, that "millions and millions haven't", huh, (and I would ask you how you arrived at that conclusion) And, even if were, that, "one in millions", even one in millions could be very, very many, considering the entire universe that is...

As far as the conditions go, you don't think anyone had a hand in that...? And might do so in other places too...?

You don't believe in higher intelligence than us...? What makes "us" the "most intelligent" lifeform in the entire universe...?

What if ones began where we are now, where are they now?, or where would they be by now? How would they exist? In what form?,

Depending on where they are at, we could all be still in our infancy to them, as they once were (maybe).... I think they some of them went beyond of this realm, or one of them/us did, maybe after millions of years in a humanoid like form, evolved into something else... "Q" like maybe...

It's possible...?

Well, if life and intelligent life like us is not as rare as you think, you'd almost have to conclude that some lifeforms did develop into a higher state of being, if intelligent life or humanoid like life, is not as rare as you think, and it really hinges upon that...

God Bless!

 

[PsychoSarah]

Yeah, but, they didn't... and that might have been part of the evolution of the environment to...?

-_- the elevated oxygen levels we currently enjoy have existed for such a short part of Earth's history that I highly doubt these elevated levels were "a given". We know why the oxygen levels skyrocketed (thanks to a massive increase in the biomass of plants), which wasn't guaranteed to happen by any means.

 

[Neogaia777]

-_- the elevated oxygen levels we currently enjoy have existed for such a short part of Earth's history that I highly doubt these elevated levels were "a given". We know why the oxygen levels skyrocketed (thanks to a massive increase in the biomass of plants), which wasn't guaranteed to happen by any means.

So you think the Oxygen levels will change soon...? How soon/long...?

We could be to other planets by then, and would probably come up with some technology to keep us going by that point as well...

I have to say this is all assuming that we will not all transcend due to (a) God, who divinely intervenes soon that is...

God Bless!

 

[PsychoSarah]

So you think the Oxygen levels will change soon...? How soon/long...?

They already have changed. At their peak, oxygen levels on this planet sat at 30%. Currently, it's about 20%. With us poisoning the oceans, which provide 70% of the oxygen produced each year, we could be seeing some drastic drops fairly soon.

 

[Neogaia777]

They already have changed. At their peak, oxygen levels on this planet sat at 30%. Currently, it's about 20%. With us poisoning the oceans, which provide 70% of the oxygen produced each year, we could be seeing some drastic drops fairly soon.

Oh, really, one more way we might destroy ourselves huh...?

I'm trying to get at if humanity is able to continue and go on, and if not us, what about others like us, elsewhere, either before or after us, if there are others like us, maybe they did not all destroy themselves...

 

[Nithavela]

If you look at the evolution of evolution, doesn't it seem like it was all (in preparation for) the rise of mankind (humankind)...?

Or not...?

Comments...?

God Bless!

It looked that way for the dinosaurs for a few millions of years.

 

[Nithavela]

Man is the most refined form of life. We're like the diamonds of the universe.

Indeed. Humans burn easily.

 

[Landon Caeli]

What was funny about post #5 @Nithavela ?

 

[Landon Caeli]

Indeed. Humans burn easily.

...Oh.

 

[The Brown Brink]

Our imagination is our greatness.

And yet we humans organize for war, as if we cannot imagine the horrors of war...
Or as if we don't even care...

 

[Neogaia777]

It looked that way for the dinosaurs for a few millions of years.

Your not getting it, the biological innovations and biological development or evolution in all species over time, man is the ultimate culmination of all those developments in all animal life over time...

Evolution had to take some necessary steps before us, at the beginning of certain animal life, some crucial developments had to take place, first, before the more complex and greater in glory that came after biologically... I think that maybe, all these developments of animals over time was to point to us eventually coming about... The "spirits" of these beasts or animals, if it were, are with and in man according to scripture...

God Bless!

 

[Nithavela]

Your not getting it, the biological innovations and biological development or evolution in all species over time, man is the ultimate culmination of all those developments in all animal life over time..

To say that man is the "Ultimate culmination" of the evolutionary process is just a different flavor of the age-old christian notion that "we are the last generation, the second coming is just around the corner". Or the supposed end of history.

Face it, we are nothing. We aren't anything special and when our species is through, the only thing that remains is a thin layer of non-degradable plastics and radioactive isotopes for coming species to discover.

Life is just a fancy way of the universe evening out energy towards heat death. That's the only culmination.

 

[Neogaia777]

To say that man is the "Ultimate culmination" of the evolutionary process is just a different flavor of the age-old christian notion that "we are the last generation, the second coming is just around the corner". Or the supposed end of history.

Face it, we are nothing. We aren't anything special and when our species is through, the only thing that remains is a thin layer of non-degradable plastics and radioactive isotopes for coming species to discover.

Life is just a fancy way of the universe evening out energy towards heat death. That's the only culmination.

I think, no matter what happens (almost), their will always be a remnant or at least a handful of us left to keep the spirit alive and rebuild, reorganize and repopulate and carry on the advances of the species, I think...

 

[Neogaia777]

I think, no matter what happens (almost), their will always be a remnant or at least a handful of us left to keep the spirit alive and rebuild, reorganize and repopulate and carry on the advances of the species, I think...

Sometimes a big decimation of the population is or might be just the world's this world's way to cleanse itself from time to time...

 

[Landon Caeli]

To say that man is the "Ultimate culmination" of the evolutionary process is just a different flavor of the age-old christian notion that "we are the last generation, the second coming is just around the corner". Or the supposed end of history.

Face it, we are nothing. We aren't anything special and when our species is through, the only thing that remains is a thin layer of non-degradable plastics and radioactive isotopes for coming species to discover.

Life is just a fancy way of the universe evening out energy towards heat death. That's the only culmination.

Why would any form of life ever develop the ability to reason and think in abstracts well enough to "discover" anything again? Mutations are so random. So random, it could never happen again.

...That's why we're the diamonds of the universe. We are literally stardust made animated, yes, but our minds, with our conscience, are even more precious of a gem. So precious, and so rare, it probably could never happen twice -unless it's the very language of the universe. But that's not possible. Is it?