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if you hacked Hunter's emails why WOULDN'T you do deceitful things to a laptop to share the emails.

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Not contradictory at all, just indicates lying -- much like you used to claim about Schiff, who you admitted claimed to have evidence. It isn't the first time they've done it either; Republicans have claimed to have evidence when they investigated Hillary almost a decade ago, before ending the hearings admitting there was no wrong doing. They did the same the first time they investigated the Biden, back in 2020, right before the election.

It is why I find it so ironic that some of the same people that claim to have had evidence, and found none during the hearings are now wanting to kick Adam Schiff out of Congress for doing what they had previously done.
If you see no fault in Schiff you are simply ignoring the facts, which often seems to be the case.
 
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If you see no fault in Schiff you are simply ignoring the facts, which often seems to be the case.
I didn't say I saw no fault, in fact, I pretty much claim that Schiff is at fault. I merely point out the Republicans, particularly the ones that are trying to oust him, are guilty of similar actions against Biden as Schiff was against Trump. You frequently see this behavior by the party that controls Congress if it is different from the President's party.

Just like the Benghazi hearings, where Republicans claimed to have "evidence" that the Obama administration, and in particularly Hillary, broke the law that led to US diplomatic workers being murdered. Of course, the hearing ended with no crimes, no wrongdoing found by the Republicans -- despite the fact they claimed they had "strong evidence" in the beginning.

We saw it with the Biden hearings, by the Republican controlled Senate in 2016 -- they claimed to have evidence to show that Biden was unfit to be President and timed the hearing to end shortly before the election. Of course, again, they found no actual wrongdoing in their final report. We're seeing the same thing with this Congress, they claim to have evidence and then hold hearings, then come back to say that the have to get more information so they can find the evidence, they again claim they have evidence, hold more hearings and again have to say they need more information, more bank records, more whatever, so they can prove that the Biden's are corrupt.

But you ignore all that and focus solely on Adam Schiff, I wonder why that could be?
 
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that could be because Schiff used his position on the intelligence committee to validate statements that he knew at the time were outright lies, he has absolutely no personal integrity and should not hold public office.
 
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that could be because Schiff used his position on the intelligence committee to validate statements that he knew at the time were outright lies, he has absolutely no personal integrity and should not hold public office.
But you give Republicans, in the same positions who have made comments they knew to be outright lies, a complete pass on it.
 
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But you give Republicans, in the same positions who have made comments they knew to be outright lies, a complete pass on it.
What Republicans are you speaking about do you have specifics?
 
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its all available to you in the NYP they broke the story and followed it up so if you truly want to know its not hard to find the back articles
"Go read the NY Post" isn't a citation. Why would I want to read a tabloid rag that has drank the supposed laptop Kool Aid anyway?
What Republicans are you speaking about do you have specifics?
She just gave two examples in post #64.
 
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"Go read the NY Post" isn't a citation. Why would I want to read a tabloid rag that has drank the supposed laptop Kool Aid anyway?

She just gave two examples in post #64.
So you have no example and the stories in the NYP that have been confirmed by all the other major news agencies are not worth reading, i think that says everything.
 
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So you have no example and the stories in the NYP that have been confirmed by all the other major news agencies are not worth reading, i think that says everything.
Thank you for validating So's Law.
 
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all the major news services, who do you use for news? check them.
I mainly use the daily wire and fox news, There has been nowhere near as much verification as you think there is.
Based on previous experience it takes about 10 posts to convince someone of this but they still had a warped view of things so it was a total waste of time.
 
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all the major news services, who do you use for news? check them.
The breathless headlines of the NY Post aside, there hasn't been as much verification as Donald's ardent believers think. A portion of emails were verified as coming from an exchange in which Hunter was involved. Emails can be hacked however (that's why many of the "emails" are pdf instead of an actual email). A portion of files were shown not to have been tampered with since April 2019. Of course they could have been hacked and downloaded and then uploaded to the hard drive Rudy got in Ukraine during the time he was there in 2018.
 
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I mainly use the daily wire and fox news, There has been nowhere near as much verification as you think there is.
Based on previous experience it takes about 10 posts to convince someone of this but they still had a warped view of things so it was a total waste of time.
 
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The breathless headlines of the NY Post aside, there hasn't been as much verification as Donald's ardent believers think. A portion of emails were verified as coming from an exchange in which Hunter was involved. Emails can be hacked however (that's why many of the "emails" are pdf instead of an actual email). A portion of files were shown not to have been tampered with since April 2019. Of course they could have been hacked and downloaded and then uploaded to the hard drive Rudy got in Ukraine during the time he was there in 2018.
 
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Clint , I refer you to post #1.
Opening post
"Hypothetical : if you hacked Hunter's emails why WOULDN'T you do deceitful things to a laptop to share the emails.

Suppose you hacked Hunter's emails and you want to share them to the public and you don't want to get into trouble for hacking Hunter's why wouldn't you get a laptop, download the emails onto the laptop and claim the laptop was a laptop that Hunter abandoned."


If the Hypothetical is true there would be a laptop with Hunter Biden's emails on the Hard drive,
I have posted the text of the CBS article below, I assure you I have read similar articles before and I just read the article again
It does not discredit the Hypothetical at all,

CBS news article
"Data from a laptop that the lawyer for a Delaware computer repair shop owner says was left by Hunter Biden in 2019 – and which the shop owner later provided to the FBI under subpoena – shows no evidence of tampering or fabrication, according to an independent review commissioned by CBS News.

Brian Della Rocca, the lawyer for the shop owner, provided to CBS News what he called an "exact copy" of the laptop data provided to federal investigators nearly three years ago. Della Rocca said he considers it "clean" because it predates versions that were widely circulated by Republican operatives to attack then-candidate Joe Biden before the 2020 presidential election.

The independent analysis, by two cyber investigators from Minneapolis-based Computer Forensics Services, found no evidence that the user data had been modified, fabricated or tampered with. Nor did it find any new files originating after April 2019, when store records indicate Biden dropped it off for repair.

This digital forensic analysis was undertaken because the laptop data, as well as bank records, are at the center of the looming Republican-led House investigation into Biden family businesses."
 
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Clint , I refer you to post #1.
Opening post
"Hypothetical : if you hacked Hunter's emails why WOULDN'T you do deceitful things to a laptop to share the emails.

Suppose you hacked Hunter's emails and you want to share them to the public and you don't want to get into trouble for hacking Hunter's why wouldn't you get a laptop, download the emails onto the laptop and claim the laptop was a laptop that Hunter abandoned."


If the Hypothetical is true there would be a laptop with Hunter Biden's emails on the Hard drive,
I have posted the text of the CBS article below, I assure you I have read similar articles before and I just read the article again
It does not discredit the Hypothetical at all,

CBS news article
"Data from a laptop that the lawyer for a Delaware computer repair shop owner says was left by Hunter Biden in 2019 – and which the shop owner later provided to the FBI under subpoena – shows no evidence of tampering or fabrication, according to an independent review commissioned by CBS News.

Brian Della Rocca, the lawyer for the shop owner, provided to CBS News what he called an "exact copy" of the laptop data provided to federal investigators nearly three years ago. Della Rocca said he considers it "clean" because it predates versions that were widely circulated by Republican operatives to attack then-candidate Joe Biden before the 2020 presidential election.

The independent analysis, by two cyber investigators from Minneapolis-based Computer Forensics Services, found no evidence that the user data had been modified, fabricated or tampered with. Nor did it find any new files originating after April 2019, when store records indicate Biden dropped it off for repair.

This digital forensic analysis was undertaken because the laptop data, as well as bank records, are at the center of the looming Republican-led House investigation into Biden family businesses."
Also from your article:

Some other versions of the laptop data circulated later appeared to have had data added after April 2019, a sign they could have been tampered with, according to reports in other media outlets, including The Washington Post.
If data was added to some versions of the laptop, then it kind of speaks to the OP's point. What reasons would one have to add data?
 
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