if you hacked Hunter's emails why WOULDN'T you do deceitful things to a laptop to share the emails.

[essentialsaltes]

Continuing to deny it really isn't helping anything.

I neither confirm nor deny it. The matter has not been convincingly determined either way, so I suspend judgment.

 

[Say it aint so]

The FBI has had the laptop for four years, and nothing will become of it simply because there is nothing there.
The GOP I am quite sure since the computer shop owner handed out hard drives like candy, also has a copy.
You can bet, kind like the GOP today they will interview people and not avail the Dems of those interviews.
You can bet those interviewed were those CC'ed on those emails less Hunter.
The GOP already had an investigation in a senate in consideration of the hard drive, nothing became of that.

As much as the GOP makes hay about the laptop, there is nothing there of consequence, and no one has coherently explained why they think it is.

 

[DaisyDay]

Hunter Biden files response against computer repair shop owner

The suit marks Hunter Biden’s first legal filing since his laptop has become a point of interest.

www.politico.com

If you read the filing (linkie), he most definitely did not "admit" that the so-called laptop was his, but that some of the data were.

 

[perplexed]

"without knowledge sufficient to admit or deny the allegations"

That is boiler plate language in a court filing. It doesn't mean anything.

??? Are you still saying that Hunter Biden's Lawyers demanded the laptop be returned ? Do you think you have provided evidence that Hunter Biden's Lawyers have demanded the laptop to be returned.

 

[SimplyMe]

The FBI has had the laptop for four years, and nothing will become of it simply because there is nothing there.
The GOP I am quite sure since the computer shop owner handed out hard drives like candy, also has a copy.
You can bet, kind like the GOP today they will interview people and not avail the Dems of those interviews.
You can bet those interviewed were those CC'ed on those emails less Hunter.
The GOP already had an investigation in a senate in consideration of the hard drive, nothing became of that.

As much as the GOP makes hay about the laptop, there is nothing there of consequence, and no one has coherently explained why they think it is.

I suspect the GOP is now going to stretch it out as long as they can, including keep having Republican press conferences that continue to claim they have "evidence," even though they refuse to make that "evidence" public or turn it over to the DoJ.

I also suspect they will regret the nonsense they are doing with Adam Schiff, such as trying to remove him -- as in a few years, when Democrats get control, I'm guessing they'll then use the precedent to treat Jim Jordan, MTG and James Cormer (and maybe a few others) -- those that claimed they have evidence of Biden's corruption -- the same way.

 

[Say it aint so]

I suspect the GOP is now going to stretch it out as long as they can, including keep having Republican press conferences that continue to claim they have "evidence," even though they refuse to make that "evidence" public or turn it over to the DoJ.

I also suspect they will regret the nonsense they are doing with Adam Schiff, such as trying to remove him -- as in a few years, when Democrats get control, I'm guessing they'll then use the precedent to treat Jim Jordan, MTG and James Cormer (and maybe a few others) -- those that claimed they have evidence of Biden's corruption -- the same way.

Yes that is correct. Regardless how feckless the evidence, the plan is to keep it in media as long as they can.
It's reason why they are trying to have the Hunter DOJ investigator delay his soon to come findings.
That would take some steam out their side show.

 

[USincognito]

I suspect the GOP is now going to stretch it out as long as they can, including keep having Republican press conferences that continue to claim they have "evidence," even though they refuse to make that "evidence" public or turn it over to the DoJ.

I also suspect they will regret the nonsense they are doing with Adam Schiff, such as trying to remove him -- as in a few years, when Democrats get control, I'm guessing they'll then use the precedent to treat Jim Jordan, MTG and James Cormer (and maybe a few others) -- those that claimed they have evidence of Biden's corruption -- the same way.

That's been their game for a long time now. They don't need any actual evidence of illegality or impropriety, just the suggestion will be enough to taint their target in the public conscious.

 

[NxNW]

The thing is confirmed. Even the article linked to identifies it as "his laptop". Continuing to deny it really isn't helping anything. The laptop was Hunter Biden's. The emails have been verified as true. There's nowhere else to go with it.

None of the above is true.

 

[USincognito]

You can tapdance around this all you want. The thing is confirmed. Even the article linked to identifies it as "his laptop". Continuing to deny it really isn't helping anything. The laptop was Hunter Biden's. The emails have been verified as true. There's nowhere else to go with it.

Your assertion was (checks notes)

When his lawyers filed a lawsuit wanting the laptop returned it was a dead giveaway.

yet no one has posted anything supporting that assertion. The linked Politico story discusses the lawsuit about the Hunter's personal data.

In or before April 2019, Counterclaim Defendant Mac Isaac, by whatever means, came into possession of certain electronically stored data, at least some of which belonged to Counterclaim Plaintiff Biden.1

Footnote 1 then reads: 1 This is not an admission by Mr. Biden that Mac Isaac (or others) in fact possessed any particular laptop containing electronically stored data belonging to Mr. Biden. Rather, Mr. Biden simply acknowledges that at some point, Mac Isaac obtained electronically stored data, some of which belonged to Mr. Biden.​

 

[USincognito]

I am certain they will be much more fair than the previous House Kangaroo Court.

To what "House Kangaroo Court" do you refer? The J6 hearings? The ones that presented actual evidence?

Hypothetical: if your son provided evidence that you were part of a criminal conspiracy to misuse your political power in exchange for money and he was subsequently found guilty of a crime would you pardon him?

That certainly is a hypothetical because there's nothing of the sort on the hard drive of the supposed laptop. It's conservative fan fiction and nothing more.

 

[HTacianas]

Your assertion was (checks notes)

yet no one has posted anything supporting that assertion. The linked Politico story discusses the lawsuit about the Hunter's personal data.

In or before April 2019, Counterclaim Defendant Mac Isaac, by whatever means, came into possession of certain electronically stored data, at least some of which belonged to Counterclaim Plaintiff Biden.1​

​

Footnote 1 then reads: 1 This is not an admission by Mr. Biden that Mac Isaac (or others) in fact possessed any particular laptop containing electronically stored data belonging to Mr. Biden. Rather, Mr. Biden simply acknowledges that at some point, Mac Isaac obtained electronically stored data, some of which belonged to Mr. Biden.​

So when the "Mac Isaac" guy says Hunter Biden dropped off a laptop at his shop and signed a work order of some sort to have it repaired he both lied about the origins (or as far you seem concerned the very existence of) the laptop and we are supposed to assume that he is lying and that he forged Hunter Biden's signature on the document?

 

[USincognito]

So when the "Mac Isaac" guy says Hunter Biden dropped off a laptop at his shop

John Isaac cannot verify that it was Hunter (he's legally blind, remember). He claims it was someone who identified themselves as Hunter. I find it hilarious how, if this were someone making a claim about Don Jr. or Matt Gaetz, the Conservisphere would be shrieking 24/7 that it's a setup and a hoax and how convenient it was that the repairperson was legally blind, yet somehow John Isaac is 1000% trustworthy.

and signed a work order of some sort to have it repaired he both lied about the origins (or as far you seem concerned the very existence of) the laptop and we are supposed to assume that he is lying and that he forged Hunter Biden's signature on the document?

There certainly is paperwork bearing a signature and the FBI took possession of a hard drive. That hard drive could be in a laptop, and that laptop could have belonged to Hunter, but I remain skeptical. What I've heard is that the hard drive John Isaac gave to Rudy, Bannon and Gaetz has something like 400 GB of data while the version of MacBook Pro that supposedly was dropped off only had 286 GB hard drive or something like that.

 

[perplexed]

So when the "Mac Isaac" guy says Hunter Biden dropped off a laptop at his shop and signed a work order of some sort to have it repaired he both lied about the origins (or as far you seem concerned the very existence of) the laptop and we are supposed to assume that he is lying and that he forged Hunter Biden's signature on the document?

The signature really match previous signatures , here is the invoice

here are examples of signatures

Now the question of the OP is that if you hacked Hunter Bidens emails why wouldn't you put them on a damaged laptop and claim someone you did not recognize dropped off the laptop.
Can you actually answer that question please ?

 

[HTacianas]

The signature really match previous signatures , here is the invoice


View attachment 331304
here are examples of signatures
View attachment 331305

Now the question of the OP is that if you hacked Hunter Bidens emails why wouldn't you put them on a damaged laptop and claim someone you did not recognize dropped off the laptop.
Can you actually answer that question please ?

Actually I don't think all of the information was on the laptop. Not originally. But it is all genuine. What makes me believe that it is genuine is both the fact that the emails were confirmed as real by one of the addressees, and no one has made the claim that it is not authentic.

 

[perplexed]

There certainly is paperwork bearing a signature and the FBI took possession of a hard drive.

The FBI did actually take possession of a laptop and a hard drive so there is actually a laptop. (refer to copies of request and receipt given below)
Mac Isaac has also said he has made many copy's of Hunter's Hard drives and sent these copys to many people people.
The issue is many articles say they have confirmed the laptop must be Hunter Biden's but when you read the article they water down the claim by saying that they have been given what could be plausibly be a copy of a laptop harddrive

 

[USincognito]

The FBI did actually take possession of a laptop and a hard drive so there is actually a laptop. (refer to copies of request and receipt given below)

As I said in another thread, that's paperwork. It's not a laptop. Again, I'm perfectly amenable to a laptop existing, I just remain skeptical.

Mac Isaac has also said he has made many copy's of Hunter's Hard drives and sent these copys to many people people.
The issue is many articles say they have confirmed the laptop must be Hunter Biden's but when you read the article they water down the claim by saying that they have been given what could be plausibly be a copy of a laptop harddrive

Indeed, with the loudest trumpeting coming from the NY Post which has gone all in on it.

A lot of the regular folks who have gone all in don't seem to understand what was meant by Russian disinformation. They seem to think it meant all of the content of the hard drive was fake. It didn't. It meant that the content was likely hacked and legitimate content (files, photos) were mixed with faked content. John Isaac even talked about that a year or two ago.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/12/now-warning-about-hunter-biden-laptop-disinfo-guy-who-leaked-it/

 

[perplexed]

Actually I don't think all of the information was on the laptop. Not originally. But it is all genuine. What makes me believe that it is genuine is both the fact that the emails were confirmed as real by one of the addressees, and no one has made the claim that it is not authentic

I am certain the emails are authentic. I would bet Hunter did have a laptop with his last 5 years of emails downloaded onto the hard drive and abandoned it in a repair shop, but I am not certain this is the case, Fore example Mac Isaac could have just logged in as hunter and downloaded some emails or perhaps he got them from elsewhere.
I would bet he is telling unusual stories because he is trying to avoid getting into trouble, he leaked a lot of material he was not supposed to read.

I really doubt Mac Isaac faked the laptop receipt, but so what, he could have altered the laptop before giving it to the FBI

But perhaps he brazenly faked the laptop receipt after realizing the government could not call him out for not having records of the receipt because some people in the government said the emails were totally fake and suppressed stories about the election before the election but I think that is stretching it a bit thin.

 

[DaisyDay]

John Isaac cannot verify that it was Hunter (he's legally blind, remember). He claims it was someone who identified themselves as Hunter. I find it hilarious how, if this were someone making a claim about Don Jr. or Matt Gaetz, the Conservisphere would be shrieking 24/7 that it's a setup and a hoax and how convenient it was that the repairperson was legally blind, yet somehow John Isaac is 1000% trustworthy.

Not John, Mac. Whoever tickles ears best is to be believed.

Actually I don't think all of the information was on the laptop. Not originally. But it is all genuine. What makes me believe that it is genuine is both the fact that the emails were confirmed as real by one of the addressees, and no one has made the claim that it is not authentic.

We know that some of it is genuine and it is possible that all of it is, but we don't know that.

We also know that Rudy Giuliani spent a lot of time in Ukraine and other East European places looking for scandalous stuff on the Bidens at the behest Donald J. We know this because during the Perfect Phone Call, Donald told Zelenskiy to give such info to Rudy directly and not go through official ambassadorial people.

 

[USincognito]

Not John, Mac.

John Paul Mac Isaac. I believe Mac Isaac is a compound last name based on it's use in the filing for Hunter's lawsuit.

Whoever tickles ears best is to be believed.

Agreed.

 

[SimplyMe]

Not John, Mac. Whoever tickles ears best is to be believed.


We know that some of it is genuine and it is possible that all of it is, but we don't know that.

We also know that Rudy Giuliani spent a lot of time in Ukraine and other East European places looking for scandalous stuff on the Bidens at the behest Donald J. We know this because during the Perfect Phone Call, Donald told Zelenskiy to give such info to Rudy directly and not go through official ambassadorial people.

We also know there were warnings, around that time, that Giuliani was the target of a Russian disinformation campaign.