If you commit suicide do you go to heaven?

[garfieldthecatman]

yes that is true, suicide is probably a sin, but if commiting a sin right before you die/ not having time to ask for repentance condemns you to hell, then heaven will be a very empty place.


by that same logic if a beautiful woman bends over in front of me and in my distraction/impure thoughts I get hit by a train ...

Agreed. Committing suicide is a sin. The last sin you could commit. And the Bible says that sin separates us from God. You could stand before God with only that one sin on your head, but because you COULDN'T ask for forgiveness before you died, you could be sent to the place of great weeping.

 

[andross77]

Agreed. Committing suicide is a sin. The last sin you could commit. And the Bible says that sin separates us from God. You could stand before God with only that one sin on your head, but because you COULDN'T ask for forgiveness before you died, you could be sent to the place of great weeping.

This does not take God's ENTIRE revealed Word into consideration. He says ALL sins will be forgiven man. Not just some. Not just the ones you remember to ask forgiveness for specifically. Not just the ones on the weekdays. Not just the "little ones". ALL YOUR SINS ARE FORGIVEN when you come into a relationship with Christ. This includes suicide. Catholics and others need to stop spreading the lie that suicide can override the grace of God and keep you from Heaven. The Bible doesn't teach this. Jesus never taught this. It is a man-made thought that is spurred on by the devil to keep hope from people who have gone through these terrible situations.

 

[JAS4Yeshua]

Debating on suicide being forgiven or not can be a pointless endeavour. Here's why I say this.

First, the Bible doesn't talk about suicide at all. Yes, God's grace covers a multitude of sins. There is no doubt in that. But only God, the pure and holy judge, knows the truth about what will happen to the soul of one who commits suicide.

Second, take the person who is thinking of committing suicide. Instead of arguing "will God forgive" we should be showing that person God's love and trying to turn their mind away from that.

Finally, look at a person who lost a loved one through suicide. Do we really want to make it worse for that person by saying "he killed himself, so he's in hell." How does that help a person who is grieving? Point them to Scriptures that give comfort, knowing that we won't know until we get to heaven. When we do get there, and IF we find that we were wrong, then at that point, it won't matter because there won't be any more tears or sorrow. That is a promise from the Lord.

Therefore, depending on what side of the equation you are on, look to the Lord for that situation. If you are contemplating or know someone who is contemplating, turn to God. Point them to Scriptures, and get them to seek counsel. Suicide is not the answer, and we don't know for certain where are person will end up. And if you have lost a loved one to suicide, look to the Scriptures to seek comfort, believing that if they have truly accepted Christ, that you may one day see them again.

 

[warrrior4him007]

no you will not there have been many times in my life were i had though and also atempted sucide but th truth be told im glad i did not murder my self sucide is murder no matter how you slice it

 

[garfieldthecatman]

This does not take God's ENTIRE revealed Word into consideration. He says ALL sins will be forgiven man. Not just some. Not just the ones you remember to ask forgiveness for specifically. Not just the ones on the weekdays. Not just the "little ones". ALL YOUR SINS ARE FORGIVEN when you come into a relationship with Christ. This includes suicide. Catholics and others need to stop spreading the lie that suicide can override the grace of God and keep you from Heaven. The Bible doesn't teach this. Jesus never taught this. It is a man-made thought that is spurred on by the devil to keep hope from people who have gone through these terrible situations.

Great point, never thought of it that way. But how can someone find the time to ask God forgiveness, WHEN HE'S DEAD!!

Oh, I know! Mabye during the Judgement Day, I can run up to Jesus before it's my turn and explain to him that it was a mistake and ask him if he forgives me. Great idea!!

 

[godigoaltti]

I just know that God is the solution for EVERYTHING. Suicide is definitely a solution for NOTHING - but of course this doesn't answer the question being asked.

If attention is given to acts committed by the dead this should only be done for the benefit of living - that we might learn from the lives they lived - both from their successes and mistakes. I agree with what the others in this forum who have already stated that discussing whether or not the friend (who committed suicide) went to heaven or not is pointless - for only God can be the judge of that. What God has not given us a part to participate in we should not dare to trod. I have my personal opinions as to the fate of the friend but I will not mention them here because as I've said, it is the living we should pay attention to - particularly the loved ones and friends who are grieving and also people who are already at this point contemplating of committing suicide themselves and are reading these words of ours and also for the benefit of us who think we are strong today - the right information here may help us in that specific time when we might need it.

So I say to you who lost your friend, just let it go. I know it's hard, but you must live your own life and God expects you to live it to the fullest. Don't let this chapter in your life hinder you from being all the person God intended you to be. One thing perhaps that you can do is start helping other people to have a more positive outlook in life - be a bright light and guide for others to see. Don't let this negative thing that happened dictate your "now" and your "future". God has a plan for your own life - so just live it and increase your faith. I say this because this is what I would personally do if I was in the same situation you are in and I know this is what God will expect.

And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.

Peace to you.

Peace to all.

 

[holo]

You won't go to heaven because you remember to repent and ask forgiveness, you go to heaven because you're a child of God. Going to heaven is going home.

Even if someone (the church, the devil, yourself) should accuse you, Jesus is your lawyer. Not because you deserve it, but because that's who he is. Heck, it has NOTHING to do with how you feel or what you do, it has EVERYTHING to with who HE IS.

 

[RevRicneck]

You won't go to heaven because you remember to repent and ask forgiveness, you go to heaven because you're a child of God. Going to heaven is going home.

AMEN!

 

[jive4005]

I'm pretty close to tis topic. Thought a lot about it for a long time. Here's where I end up.

I've had one family member and one very good friend kill themselves. Both were in extreme depression. Th reasons really don't matter anymore. What's done is done. I think my relative was saved... I know my friend was.

So how can saved people do this. My best guess is... they let their guard down. They stepped away (for whatever reason) from God's protection and were successfully duped by the liar. They bought into the lie... the "there is no hope" lie.

But I'm still hopefull. The God I've gotten to know is a wonderous and lovefilled God. He is indeed the God of possiblities and our Waymaker. What is impossible with man is every day easy with God.

So, knowing that God is all fair and all just and all merciful... I just KNOW that everything is going to work out perfectly. It must... for God is perfect even while man is not. It is not the plan of man we follow, but the plan of God... His plan.

I'm thinking and believing that I will be more than satisfied, even elated, when I finally get to see His whole plan. I admit to being anxiouis and a bit giddy (can a Marine be giddy?) about it.
Bottom line... I'm trusting God.

Several times in my life, God has seen fit to reassure me about things. This is one of them. I feel good about seeing my family (especially the one's I've only heard about) in heaven. I'm pretty sure that when I get there, I'll find a whole lot of people that I didn't expect to see.

I know my own experiences prove nothing to anybody but me, but I pray His Spirit will speak to all of you and that He will strengthen and grant you extraordinary discernment in all things, as you move forward in relationship with Him.

 

[Blade]

Its simple. For God so loved the world he gave his only son and who ever believes in him should not die but have everlasting life. Do you really think all the people in heaven just before they died remembered to ask God to forgive them? We are the ones that see through a class. Things will never look clear till we get home. If you tell a lie yet you know Jesus and die you go to be with him. It makes no differance what the sin. The ONLY sin that sends you to hell is NOT knowing Jesus. How can someone that KNOWS Jesus, heard his voice even looked into his eyes think about killing them selfs? Very very easy.

Jesus I am so in love with you..

 

[Rossiter]

A lot of the time I don't think suicide is a sin at all. With depression like that you can be past all understanding of God and the whole concept of sin. If someone thinks it through clearly and decides suicide's the easiest way out, that could be sin, but hardly anyone who does this could be said to be thinking clearly and normally.

 

[archanie11]

there is a christian woman in hell.. because she was over taken by demons.. and she killed herself....

if we could kill ourselves and go to heaven.. then wouldn't every christian commite suicide to be with the lord....???????

 

[rosiecotton]

there is a christian woman in hell.. because she was over taken by demons.. and she killed herself....

if we could kill ourselves and go to heaven.. then wouldn't every christian commite suicide to be with the lord....???????

I think this had been addressed before. We aren't saying that committing suicide is the best way to go. I think Christians understand that God created us for a reason here on earth.
But there are people who get so severely depressed and see no other way out. To them being dead is better than being alive.
If you read back through the thread, you'll see a lot more statements concerning this.

 

[JAS4Yeshua]

I posted much earlier in the thread, but I think it bears repeating.

This argument is pointless, because we don't know what God will do. The Bible doesn't speak of suicide, and there is no adequate way to know for absolute certainty.

If you lost someone to suicide, or know someone who has, then be comforted by the words of God. Be comforted by the fact that Jesus died for all sins, and if that person did know the Lord, then they are in heaven.

If you are depressed, considering suicide, then turn your mind to God instead of the thoughts of suicide. Realize that the Bible is silent on the subject and there are no guarantees. Do you really want to test God on this? There's a lot more that could be said against suicide, but that is for another topic.

 

[DeanM]

Please accept my most heartfelt sympathies for you and your friend's family. You are in my prayers.

I disagree with anyone who says that suicide will automatically condemn you to hell.

Firstly because God's love is wonderous, and He is merciful and has proved it to us over and over.

Secondly from personal experience seeing my friend's father, a WW2 vet with a spinal injury live his life in pain. One day, the U.S. gov't sent him a letter stating that after 50+ years, they were cancelling his prescription for morphine because they "do not want him to become addicted". He made it about 12 hours after his supply ran out before he took his own life.

To anyone who is so sure that suicide is cause to condemn a person to an eternity in hell, I invite them to put themselves in this man's shoes. He died with a bible in his hands.

God is merciful and wise. That's all you need to know about this.

Blessings

 

[DeanM]

You won't go to heaven because you remember to repent and ask forgiveness, you go to heaven because you're a child of God. Going to heaven is going home.

Even if someone (the church, the devil, yourself) should accuse you, Jesus is your lawyer. Not because you deserve it, but because that's who he is. Heck, it has NOTHING to do with how you feel or what you do, it has EVERYTHING to with who HE IS.

The more posts I read from Holo, the more faith I have in mankind. I just wish he would write a book. Thanks Holo. I like your posts.

Blessings

 

[holo]

there is a christian woman in hell.. because she was over taken by demons.. and she killed herself....

if we could kill ourselves and go to heaven.. then wouldn't every christian commite suicide to be with the lord....???????

Would you?

 

[Faith57]

i would never think of killing myself if i was not so sick and tired of going thru mental angish each day!! yes, i have turned to christ for help and to taking medications, but i am facing having to go a mental hospital....have you ever been in one?
how would you like to live the rest of your life there?????
i'm so hurt and scared. people turn thier backs on you when you are mentally ill and have dementia.
i have panic, anxiety, bordeline personailty, disorder, depession, agoraphobia, ptsd, dementia, addiction to meds i was put on to help, but i'm not going to get any better. i've been ripped off so bad suffering with this. yes i'm sure my kids will be hurt if i kill myself, but how much pain are they in seeing me like this???? and none care enough to even help me! no one can imagine what its like to live like this. even my faith over the years has grown so weak!!!! do i really want to kill myself? no...............but i just can't take living like this anymore....there is no joy....only sick, scared, confused, abandoned and so much pain not being able to enjoy life, my kids, my grandchildren, my animals.......god i can't take anymore loss and sure don't want to live in a hospital all my life!!! i wish god would just take me in my sleep so these thoughts would gone.
i can barely bathe anymore i have no appatite and find it hard to anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's like i'm looking back on life and everything is....use to be!! god i cry so much....i hurt for myself and for my kids, grandchildren evenn my animals........i fight suicide everyday, but sure it will happen and i am so scared!!!!!! i just pray that god will forgive me and understand!!!! i can't hold on much longer.......lose everything you once were and everything you have and only have a mental home to look forward to......read what happens in there.....and then think whats its like for a person who is terrified and filled with so much pain and just bare it anymore.......i never thought i would ever talk like this....but the world has become such a scarey place for me anymore and my mind!!! oh god please have mercy!!!

 

[Faith57]

god please help me..........i don't want anymore of this...

 

[hizlamb]

Faith...are you ok? Are you still around?

Well..Im praying for ya...

God bless