If You Cant...

[talitha]

Steezie, I suppose you are talking about fornication, and I suppose you are open to any points of view on your question. As a Christian, my point of view is that it is impossible to indefinitely abstain from sin (which would include fornication) without the power of the Holy Spirit, and that frustration and possible reprecussions generally accompany the battle against the human tendency to sin, particularly if the battle is faced without accessing that power. One of the main reasons Jesus died for us was to set us free from the power of sin, but we have to access that power through Him.

blessings in Him
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[ThatRobGuy]

I'm pretty sure that Pagans are encouraged to have sex.

I'm pretty sure that everyone is...

From the biblical instruction to be fruitful and multiply, all the way to you buddy encouraging you to hook up with a woman at the bar.

 

[david_x]

I'm pretty sure that everyone is...

From the biblical instruction to be fruitful and multiply, all the way to you buddy encouraging you to hook up with a woman at the bar.

Bible doesn't tell me to be fruitful, not sure what you mean by that.

 

[RocketRed]

It is a very wise position to have, i think, that a man should avoid extremes.

Absolutely. I believe this across the board. Moderation and balance all the way.

 

[david_x]

Absolutely. I believe this across the board. Moderation and balance all the way.

It's biblical.

 

[lawtonfogle]

Bible doesn't tell me to be fruitful, not sure what you mean by that.

First command in the Bible, be fruitful and multiply.

 

[david_x]

First command in the Bible, be fruitful and multiply.

I'm a Christian, the Bible tells me to be celibate.

 

[lawtonfogle]

I'm a Christian, the Bible tells me to be celibate.

Genesis 1:28.

Case by case exceptions may apply.

Then again, one could point out we have now filled the earth, so we can stop multiplying.

 

[david_x]

Genesis 1:28.

Case by case exceptions may apply.

Then again, one could point out we have now filled the earth, so we can stop multiplying.

Jewish law much? That is irrelevant, we are not a nation.

 

[sbvera13]

Jewish law much? That is irrelevant, we are not a nation.

I have scripture that disagrees with you. What do you have?

Matthew 5:17-48 (New International Version)

The Fulfillment of the Law

17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

 

[david_x]

I have scripture that disagrees with you. What do you have?

Matthew 5:17-48 (New International Version)

The Fulfillment of the Law

17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Exactly, that Law is love. Like Paul said, it's not time to marry as time is too short.

 

[Steezie]

Exactly, that Law is love. Like Paul said, it's not time to marry as time is too short.

So then shouldn't it be good to love as much as you can and as many people as you can?

With that in mind, why reject the idea of polyamorous relationships?

 

[david_x]

So then shouldn't it be good to love as much as you can and as many people as you can?

With that in mind, why reject the idea of polyamorous relationships?

I think you are thinking of a different "L" word.

 

[Steezie]

I think you are thinking of a different "L" word.

One person can romantically love more than one person at a time, it's completely possible.

 

[david_x]

One person can romantically love more than one person at a time, it's completely possible.

Yeah, romantic love was not the kind of love i was going for.

 

[Steezie]

Yeah, romantic love was not the kind of love i was going for.

Does it matter that much?

 

[david_x]

Does it matter that much?

Yeah, obviously if we are to be celibate we are not to be romantically loving...

 

[Steezie]

Yeah, obviously if we are to be celibate we are not to be romantically loving...

Romance does not require sex, I should have thought that would be obvious.

 

[david_x]

Romance does not require sex, I should have thought that would be obvious.

What?

 

[lawtonfogle]

Jewish law much? That is irrelevant, we are not a nation.

Except that is a law God gave to mankind, not just the Jews. Not all laws in the Old Testament are Jewish laws.

And as far as the end time being neigh, it has been that way for a couple hundred generations since Paul wrote what he did.