If there is "no evidence" for evolution...

yeshuaslavejeff · Feb 3, 2018

HitchSlap said:
Why would you design a broken mirror?

Every day , for hollywood..... etc .... for money ..... etc .....

yeshuaslavejeff · Feb 3, 2018

HitchSlap said:
Careful where you get your information. Professional creationists will lie and prey on the gullible.

NEVER trust a professional, until what is said is proven true by testing.
NEVER trust the flesh, mankind, society, for that matter, in any case.
YHVH curses everyone , believers and unbelievers, who trust in the flesh.

HitchSlap · Feb 3, 2018

yeshuaslavejeff said:
NEVER trust a professional, until what is said is proven true by testing.
NEVER trust the flesh, mankind, society, for that matter, in any case.
YHVH curses everyone , believers and unbelievers, who trust in the flesh.

I don’t trust you.

yeshuaslavejeff · Feb 3, 2018

HitchSlap said:
I don’t trust you.

GOOD! You're listening.... Good start anyway.... Keep learning and there is hope !
(Keep seeking to learn, keep seeking the TRUTH)

HitchSlap · Feb 3, 2018

yeshuaslavejeff said:
GOOD! You're listening.... Good start anyway.... Keep learning and there is hope !
(Keep seeking to learn, keep seeking the TRUTH)

Well, I keep hoping you’ll learn some things, but I learned a long time ago, you can’t teach a pigeon to play chess.

USincognito · Feb 3, 2018

eleos1954 said:
It is called the "theory" of evolution.

Why are you putting theory in scare quotes? Do you know what a scientific theory is and how theory means something different in a scientific context than it does in common parlance?

eleos1954 said:
Science: There is no "evidence" of gradualism in the fossil record.

No sure where this claim comes from, but we do see gradualism in the fossil record. When environments are stable there's not a lot of evolution happening. It's during periods of environmental change and niches being emptied and refilled that we a jump in evolution.

eleos1954 said:
One believes in evolution

One does not believe in evolution. One accepts it based on evidence.

eleos1954 said:
(Darwins) ....

Darwin was not Saint Paul and Origin was not an epistle. While his basic propositions remain solid, the science has moved on.

eleos1954 said:
but science does not "prove" evolution.

Science doesn't prove anything. I'd recommend reading this:
Common misconceptions about science I: “Scientific proof”

eleos1954 said:
Just saying ..... consider the "evidence" of intelligent design, which is shown through science as well.

That is simply untrue and ID has a plethora of issues:
- it's an ad hoc argument
- it's unfalsifiable and thus not scientific
- it doesn't explain why humans and chimpanzees share 203,000 ERVs
- it doesn't explain why all haplorhine primates, including humans, share a broken GULO gene
- it doesn't explain why whales have a non-functioning Sonic Hedgehog/Hand2 gene pathway
- it doesn't explain why all therian mammals, including humans, have broken VTG genes for egg yolk sac development

Paul of Eugene OR · Feb 3, 2018

HitchSlap said:
Careful where you get your information. Professional creationists will lie and prey on the gullible.

Yes they will!

Paul of Eugene OR · Feb 3, 2018

xianghua said:
its like saying that design cant explain a broken mirror in a car. therefore the car just evolved. see the problem?

That analogy has a broken part in it, all right . . .

Jjmcubbin · Feb 3, 2018

There is no evidence for evolutione?
What about the fossils we have found?
Archaeopteryx is a fossil that has wings, teeth, a round cranium, and an elongated caudal vertebrae. Features of reptilia and Aves. It is a connecting link.
Hesperonsis is a member of odontognathae or birds with teeth.
The crocodilia group has a 4 chambered heart, characteristic of Aves and mammalia. It also has thecodont dentation, found only in Mammalia.
Lung Fish (Dipnoi) have a lungs and a 3 chambered heart yet are in pisces. They are connecting link between pisces and amphibians.
Hemichordates have a buccal diverticulum, similar to a notochord, and are the connecting link between chordates and non chordates.
Echinoderms are deuterostomous, enterocoelous, features of chordates.
You can see how the number of germ layers change from phylum to phylum along with symmetry.
Considering the notochord, humans have remains of it in the form of nuclosus pulposis in our vertebrae.

Plants?
Cycas is a gymnosperm but has circinnately coiled yound leaves, Ramanta and multiflagellate male gametes, features of fern.
It is pretty obvious how the sporophylls evolved. In pteridophytes, all plants are not even heterosporous. In angiosperms, the megasporophyll modifies to wrap around the megasporangium.
Algae follow a haplontic life cycle, gymnosperms and angiosperms follow a diplontic one. Bryophytes and pteridophytes are the transition states and follow a haplodiplontic life cycle.
Coming back to gnathostomates, it is clear how the heart evolved, how jaw suspension changes, how the transition from anamniotes to amniotes takes place, kidney evolution, how ribs change, etc.
Fungi
Fungal evolution is seen by changes in sexual reproduction. Oomycetes from gametes and at times, fuse gametangia. Zygomycetes just conjugate their gametangia. Ascomycetes and basidiomycetes get rid of all that and just fuse two cells.
If you did not understand what I have written, you have no right to deny evolution, since you do not even know the basics of evolution. Read more before making wild claims.

pitabread · Feb 3, 2018

yeshuaslavejeff said:
Did you find out yet ?

I started this thread expecting a bunch of wacky creationist responses. It did not disappoint.

Bugeyedcreepy · Feb 3, 2018

Aman777 said:
Thanks for your atheistic opinion. IF I agreed with you, I would be ashamed to face God. Will you wait for righteous judgment before your knees bow? Rom 14:11

You're Welcome. If that were the case then I'd have no choice. No evidence whatsoever that's actually the case though.

Aman777 said:
False, since God told us thousands of years ago, about your unbelief.

People were unbelievers thousands of years before that was written by someone claiming to speak on behalf of your God, I'm afraid.

dad · Feb 4, 2018

sfs said:
Lies, delusions, limericks -- the usual fare for a scientific journal.

Hard to argue with that one.

Bugeyedcreepy · Feb 4, 2018

Paul of Eugene OR said:
You are not making sense at all.

About Aman?? This is a foundational fact of this Universe.

xianghua · Feb 4, 2018

HitchSlap said:
Why would you design a broken mirror?

it was not broken in the beginning.

Bugeyedcreepy · Feb 4, 2018

xianghua said:
it was not broken in the beginning.

Then it wasn't a perfect design.

DreadCthulhu · Feb 4, 2018

Why is this still a thing? Even though I am a Christian, It's pretty obvious evolution isn't just a "Oh, they must just think so because they are scared that God might be real!" kind of thing. Educate yourselves, there is evidence, after all.

xianghua · Feb 4, 2018

DreadCthulhu said:
Why is this still a thing? Even though I am a Christian, It's pretty obvious evolution isn't just a "Oh, they must just think so because they are scared that God might be real!" kind of thing. Educate yourselves, there is evidence, after all.

such as? check also my signature link for evidence against it.

Aman777 · Feb 4, 2018

HitchSlap said:
The only reasonable unstanding of Genesis is a mythical one. Don’t miss the forest for the trees.

Amen.

False, since Genesis shows specifics such as, When and How prehistoric people became Humans. It shows that "every living creature" had it's origin in water as Science confirmed on July 25, 2016. Genesis shows that we live in a Multiverse composed of at least 3 Universes. It also reveals Where we can find the remnants of Adam's first firmament/Heaven. This is important since it totally refutes the false ToE and shows that ONLY God could have possibly authored Genesis. Amen?

Aman777 · Feb 4, 2018

HitchSlap said:
Ghosts only exist in movies.

Amen

No, since I've seen many bad Spirits in my time on this Earth. They live in the bodies of people and put themselves in first place. Thank God, I've also known many good Spirits who did good while on the Earth and I can hardly wait to see them again. Do atheists know any good people? Or do they want to see the good ones again?

Aman777 · Feb 4, 2018

HitchSlap said:
Don’t waste your life fearing something that will never happen.

Amen.

I don't but I will continue to warn unbelievers of their sure fate. Otherwise, they might have an excuse for not knowing. God Bless you

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