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You can't can you because your trying to add an interpretation to the scriptures you have provided that is not supported in the context you have left out.
Actually you provided your slant then provided scripture that did not support your slant. I simply provided the scripture contexts that do not support your slant that Gods' 10 commandments are abolished in post # 22; post # 23 and post # 37 linked. That is a false teaching unsupported by the scriptures.I only provide the passages without my own slant.
Paul continues to state the summary of those concepts and any other commandment concept, thus giving a more simple way of thinking about it.We know that Paul wrote the book of ROMANS ,and in Rom 13:9 he writes , For this , thou shall not commit Adultery .
#2 Thou shall not kill .
#3 thou shall not bear false witness ,
#4 Thou shall not Covet .
Notice what Paul let OUT ?
I believe the Law , what bis called the OLD COVENANT was set aside as Paul wrote in 2 Cor 3:13 .
And nowhere does Paul say we are in the NEW COVENANT !!
dan p
Galatians 2:7-9, Romans 15:8
..........Audience matters...........
Matthew 10:5-7, Matthew 15:24
Those verses would matter to gentiles... because it's spoken by their apostle. But you can't think that gentile's letters apply to genetic Israelites or their proselytes, can you? So using them to try to control the beliefs of the people, for whom Paul's not their boss, won't work.Are you assuming that Paul speaks of the circumcision of the flesh in Galatians 2:7-9 and Romans 15:8? If so, that's all it is, an assumption: for he tells us what true circumcision entails in Romans 2:28-29 and what it means to be of "the Circumcision".
Matthew 15:3-6 But He answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the Commandment of God by your tradition? For God Commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
Tertullian says Barnabus wrote Hebrews. There are no Colombians in the Bible. And the word "your" in the last whole sentence quoted should be "you're"... but dude, that sentence is totally wrong, according to the Old Testament.
Gotta say, really glad I don't try to follow both gospels... I don't read other people's mail like it was written to me by-the-boss-of-me.
Esaias 43:1-8 And now thus saith the Lord God that made thee, O Jacob, and formed thee, O Israel: Fear not, for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name, thou art Mine. 2 And if thou pass through water I am with thee, and the rivers shall not overflow thee; and if thou go through fire thou shalt not be burned, the flame shall not burn thee. 3 For I am the Lord thy God, the Holy One of Israel, that saves thee: I have made Egypt and Ethiopia thy ransom and given Soene for thee. 4 Since thou becamest precious in My sight, thou hast become glorious and I have loved thee, and I will give men for thee and princes for thy life. 5 Fear not, for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east and will gather thee from the west. 6 I will say to the north, Bring, and to the south, Keep not back; bring my sons from the land afar off, and my daughters from the ends of the earth; 7 even all who are called by My name: for I have prepared him for My glory, and I have formed him and have made him; 8 and I have brought forth the blind people: for their eyes are alike blind, and they that have ears are deaf.LXX
Esaias 6:8-13 And I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go to this people? And I said, behold, I am here, send me. And he said, Go, and say to this people, 9 Ye shall hear indeed, but ye shall not understand; and ye shall see indeed, but ye shall not perceive. 10 For the heart of this people has become gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them. (Matthew 13:13-17)... 11 And I said, How long, O Lord? And he said, Until cities be deserted by reason of their not being inhabited, and the houses by reason of there being no men, and the land shall be left desolate. 12 And after this God shall remove the men far off, and they that are left upon the land shall be multiplied. 13 And yet there shall be a tenth upon it, and again it shall be for a spoil, as a turpentine tree, and as an acorn when it falls out of its husk.
Jezekiel 36:22-28 Therefore say to the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord; I do not this, O house of Israel, for your sakes, but because of My holy name which ye have profaned among the nations, among whom ye went. And I will sanctify My great name, which was profaned among the gentiles, which ye profaned in the midst of them; and the nations shall know that I am the Lord, when I am sanctified among you before their eyes. And I will take you out from the gentiles, and will gather you out of all the lands, and will bring you into your own land: and I will sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be purged from all your uncleannesses, and from all your idols, and I will cleanse you. And I will give you a new heart, and will put a new spirit in you: and I will take away the heart of stone out of your flesh and will give you a heart of flesh. And I will put My Spirit in you, and will cause you to walk in Mine Ordinances, and to keep My Judgments, and do them. And ye shall dwell upon the land which I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be to Me a people, and I will be to you a God.
(Osee 1:6-10 Yet the number of the children of Israel was as the sand of the sea, which shall not be measured nor numbered: and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said to them, Ye are not My people, even they shall be called the sons of the living God. 1 Peter 2:9-10, Matthew 4:12-20)
Jeremias 39:37-41 Behold, I will gather them out of every land where I have scattered them in My anger and My wrath and great fury, and I will bring them back into this place and will cause them to dwell safely; and they shall be to Me a people, and I will be to them a God. And I will give them another way and another heart, to fear Me continually, and that for good to them and their children after them. And I will make with them an Everlasting Covenant, which I will by no means turn away from them, and I will put My fear into their heart, that they may not depart from Me. And I will visit them to do them good, and I will plant them in this land in faithfulness, and with all My heart, and with all My soul. (Jeremiah 31:31-34, John 14:6-7, Revelation 2:23, Revelation 14:6)(verses in LXX & KJV)
Let's chat more when you want to discuss the posts and scriptures that have been shared with you
your claims that Gods' 10 commandments are abolished
Wanna talk about verses I posted, 'cuz you haven't done that yet? No? Didn't think so.
Instead, you keep holding up your one-playing-card and acting like that trumps everthing I've really said about the 10 Commandments. So... either you're trying to bear false witness, or you're attempting to damage the Father's Gospel of the Kingdom.
Wanna talk about verses I posted, 'cuz you haven't done that yet? No? Didn't think so.
Instead, you keep waving your one-playing-card and acting like "your slant" trumps everything I've really said about the 10 Commandments. ...So... either you're trying to bear false witness, or you're attempting to damage the Father's Gospel of the Kingdom.
Why would I need to talk about the verses you provided? Which ones tell us the first four commandments of Gods' 10 commandments have been abolished? Or which scriptures have you provided tell us that the new covenant was made with Gentiles (see Hebrews 8:10-12 from Jeremiah 31:31-34)?
I am not bearing false witness by saying your trying to abolish Gods 10 commandments
You've tied your whole premise to that book from Barnabus, which you said was written by Paul ...in either case, YOUR apostle... NOT MINE.
But what your apostle says to y'all doesn't apply to me, so you can't use your gospel's doctrines to bad-mouth anyone who doesn't follow it.
Who spoke what to which people: Matthew 10:5-7 ... Jesus didn't go to the gentiles, and told His Disciples not to go to them, either. ... Matthew 28:18-20 says they were to teach what He had already taught them ...which includes Matthew 10:5-7... the Gospel of the Kingdom to the Lost Sheep of Israel. And since the tribes of Israel are scattered among the nations, the Galilean Disciples would seek them among the nations.(John 10:4-5) And so will the people who believe on Jesus through their word (John 17:20).
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Here's the thing... I follow the Gospel of the Kingdom, and I don't hear anything else. There is only one shepherd speaking to me: Deuteronomy 18:18-19, John 12:48-50.
So, what Paul says is yours, not mine. Therefore, what you pretend I'm saying is actually the difference between the two gospels... and since you can't give it another slant, you bear false witness about what I'm saying... while pretending you don't do that.
When truthfully, you can't even understand me, since you're trying to follow both gospels... whereas I have only the First Gospel in my mind.
I've seen it from both gospels' points-of-view, argued it each way, and I feel pity for you.
You've tied your whole premise to that book from Barnabus, which you said was written by Paul ...in either case, YOUR apostle... NOT MINE.
But what your apostle says to y'all doesn't apply to me, so you can't use your gospel's doctrines to bad-mouth anyone who doesn't follow it.
Who spoke what to which people: Matthew 10:5-7 ... Jesus didn't go to the gentiles, and told His Disciples not to go to them, either. ... Matthew 28:18-20 says they were to teach what He had already taught them: Matthew and John: the Gospel of the Kingdom to the Lost Sheep of Israel. And since the tribes of Israel are scattered among the nations, the Galilean Disciples would seek them among the nations.(John 10:4-5) And so will the people who believe on Jesus through their word (John 17:20).
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Here's the thing... I follow the Gospel of the Kingdom, and I don't hear anything else. There is only one shepherd speaking to me: Deuteronomy 18:18-19, John 12:48-50.
So, what Paul says is yours, not mine. Therefore, what you pretend I'm saying is actually the difference between the two gospels... and since you can't give it another slant, you bear false witness about what I'm saying... while pretending you don't do that.
When truthfully, you can't even understand me, since you're trying to follow both gospels... whereas I have only the First Gospel in my mind.
I've seen it from both gospels' points-of-view, argued it each way, and I feel pity for you.
According to the scriptures Jesus says by their fruits you shall know them *Matthew 7:16-20. That is who is from God and who is not from God.
I disagree with what you have posted and it is not tied into any premise accept to address what you posted earlier by adding the scripture contexts back into what you posted showing that your claims that no one has to obey Gods' first four commandments from God's 10 commandments are not biblical that you refuse to discuss.
I am telling you the truth because I am providing Gods Word *John 17:17.
According to the scriptures there is only one gospel and that is the Word of God because all the Word of God is good news that testifies of Jesus as Gods' savior for the sins of the world.
So do not feel pity for me.
What you're saying actually confirms what I said about there being two gospels... since Jesus preaches the Gospel of the Kingdom, given to Him by the Father (John 12:44-50), because Jesus didn't come to preach about Himself (John 7:17), but to bear witness to the Father who sent Him (John 18:37).
How would I do that you have not provided any context to the scriptures you posted earlier.
I did and it does not agree with your teachings which is why I brought it to your attention.Look up the context yourself. I encourage it.
Those verses would matter to gentiles... because it's spoken by their apostle. But you can't think that gentile's letters apply to genetic Israelites or their proselytes, can you? So using them to try to control the beliefs of the people, for whom Paul's not their boss, won't work.
And the Jews and Gentiles theme won't work, either... since the kingdom is still divided, making Paul of Benjamin a part of Judah.
So... the Galileans are not Judaeans... and neither are any of the tribes referenced by 1 Peter 1, since 1 Peter 2:10 links them to Hosea 1:6-10... the house of Israel, not the house of Juda.
Philippians 3:2 ...VS... Genesis 17:10-12
Galatians 3:2-5 ...VS... John 14:15-17.
Clearly, there are two different gospels for two different sets of people.
I follow the Gospel of the Kingdom given by Jesus to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel. And Deuteronomy 18:18-19 and John 12:48-50 says these are the Father's words.
Love is also not separate from Gods' law it is expressed through obedience to it which is why Jesus say "on these two commandments of love to God and man hang all the law and the prophets" - Matthew 22:36-40.
According to the scriptures love to God and man is expressed in obedience to God's 10 commandments not by disobedience to Gods' law. Scriptures already provided in post # 22; post # 23 and post # 37 linked. For example if you love your fellow man will you lie from them or steal from them *see Romans 13:8-10?Love has replaced all the written laws, because it is the better promise. The written laws brought death.
What you're saying actually confirms what I said about there being two gospels... since Jesus preaches the Gospel of the Kingdom, given to Him by the Father (John 12:44-50), because Jesus didn't come to preach about Himself (John 7:17), but to bear witness to the Father who sent Him (John 18:37).
A lot different from Paul's focus. Paul chat's about himself a lot.
Apportion yourself into twelve parts and rule over twelve thrones: then go through all of your land preaching the Gospel to every creature throughout your dominion. Surely you will not have gone through the cities of Yisrael until the Son of Man comes.
Doesn't this verse mean the 10 Commandments?
2 Corinthians 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written [and] engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which [glory] was to be done away:KJV
According to the scriptures love to God and man is expressed in obedience to God's 10 commandments not by disobedience to Gods' law.
For example if you love your fellow man will you lie from them or steal from them *see Romans 13:8-10?
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