If I'm an Atheist and I am not a bad person, will I go to hell?

[bhsmte]

Being a Christian is not a "thought process" it is a state of being. People who are Christians have passed from death to life. They are born again by the Spirit of God. You can't undo that. If you have chosen to reject Jesus, you clearly were never made alive to God in Christ.

your opinion and your judgment, of whether i was a christian.

Not for you to tell me what i believed and what i felt. Though, i do understand it brings you comfort in thinking you can.

 

[Skavau]

What a man brings upon himself in unbelief is on him. I can't stay awake at night over your unbelief.

I didn't say you should. I just pointed that you believe that my unbelief deserves torture. This is an insult to the rights you currently enjoy. You enjoy freedom of speech yet don't support it for others.

 

[Kirsten]

This is missing the point. That people believe horrific things and expect me to extend my hand and respect those beliefs is disturbing.

Who expects you to extend a hand and respect their beliefs? That is in your own mind. Nobody here cares what you believe. Why you are so concerned about what Christians believe is beyond me.

 

[Skavau]

I respect your preservation of human life and rights.

I do not respect your support of torture, thought-crime and totalitarianism.

 

[Kirsten]

your opinion and your judgment, of whether i was a christian.

Not for you to tell me what i believed and what i felt. Though, i do understand it brings you comfort in thinking you can.

It's actually stated quite clearly in Scripture.

 

[GillDouglas]

I didn't say you should. I just pointed that you believe that my unbelief deserves torture. This is an insult to the rights you currently enjoy. You enjoy freedom of speech yet don't support it for others.

Ok.

 

[Skavau]

Who expects you to extend a hand and respect their beliefs? That is in your own mind. Nobody here cares what you believe. Why you are so concerned about what Christians believe is beyond me.

I'm not concerned about Christian Universalists, for example. I am concerned that a considerable chunk of Christian and Muslims believe in rather abhorrent and morally indefensible concepts just like I am concerned about the values of Scientologists.

 

[Kirsten]

I do not respect your support of torture, thought-crime and totalitarianism.

There is no such thing as a thought crime, at least not yet. That is coming, I assure you. There is, however, the state of your heart according to Him who judges the heart.

 

[seekingsolace]

I don't insist you respect my beliefs but then it is worth pointing out that I don't support torture, or thought-crime or totalitarianism.

You should respect beliefs because you do not understand what you are talking about.

 

[GillDouglas]

your opinion and your judgment, of whether i was a christian.

Not for you to tell me what i believed and what i felt. Though, i do understand it brings you comfort in thinking you can.

It's a difficult matter to wrap our heads around. We feel the need to understand maybe to help others come back from unbelief, or prevent ourselves from falling away. I for one appreciate the conversation, and patience.

 

[Skavau]

There is no such thing as a thought crime, at least not yet. That is coming, I assure you. There is, however, the state of your heart according to Him who judges the heart.

So exactly how was I wrong then? You and GillDouglas are outright openly against free speech and pro incarcerating and torturing people for what they think.

 

[Skavau]

You should respect beliefs because you do not understand what you are talking about.

What am I misunderstanding?

 

[Kirsten]

I'm not concerned about Christian Universalists, for example. I am concerned that a considerable chunk of Christian and Muslims believe in rather abhorrent and morally indefensible concepts just like I am concerned about the values of Scientologists.

You don't need to worry about true Christians. They are not concerned about what you believe or the laws of man. They will not chop your head off. You err in believing that being born again is even remotely related to religions like Muslim, or even Catholicism. Religions are of man.

 

[Skavau]

You don't need to worry about true Christians. They are not concerned about what you believe or the laws of man. They will not chop your head off. You err in believing that being born again is even remotely related to religions like Muslim, or even Catholicism. Religions are of man.

What are "true Christians" concerned about then?

Indeed if a Christian, or anyone told me they were not concerned about the "laws of man" that'd be cause for concern in itself.

 

[Kirsten]

So exactly how was I wrong then? You and GillDouglas are outright openly against free speech and pro incarcerating and torturing people for what they think.

I am against our government trying to control us at all. Our government has in fact begun to encroach on our thoughts. I am not at all in favor of incarcerating anyone for what they believe. You are mistaken.

 

[GillDouglas]

So exactly how was I wrong then? You and GillDouglas are outright openly against free speech and pro incarcerating and torturing people for what they think.

Yeah, because we said that. I think you're inferring too much.

 

[Kirsten]

What are "true Christians" concerned about then?

Indeed if a Christian, or anyone told me they were not concerned about the "laws of man" that'd be cause for concern in itself.

True Christians are those who are born again.

 

[Skavau]

I am against our government trying to control us at all. Our government has in fact begun to encroach on our thoughts. I am not at all in favor of incarcerating anyone for what they believe. You are mistaken.

I'm not talking about the government - I'm talking about your endorsement of God, the entity that will (according to you) punish me for what I think.

 

[bhsmte]

I know why people think Christianity is hateful. It's because nobody wants to be told they are a sinner. People take offense to that and accuse people of being hateful. I am the first to admit I am a sinner. I am no different from any other sinner except that I am forgiven. That is the only difference between you and me.

People will tell you what they think of your theology if you ask them. Of course why listen to them, when you can read their mind.

 

[ldonjohn]

Nonbeleiver314, after having debates with several atheists I learned that they really did not want an answer to their questions, but they ask their questions to draw Christians into a never ending debate that provides the atheists opportunity to show their contempt for Christians and God. Assuming you are genuinely looking for the truth about your question, I will simply ask you a question: "Are you willing risk your eternity on the opinions of others or will you seek the truth from the Bible?"