If I'm an Atheist and I am not a bad person, will I go to hell?

[GoldenBoy89]

I see what you did there.

Well, it depends on what you understand by Hell. If you think Hell is a place where you will burn forever because God sent you there as a punishment for not believing in Him stop thinking it, because that is a deformed idea of what Hell is, constructed by the ignorance of some people and sadly widely spread everywhere. Hell means to be out of communion with God, you see, God created man to live in communion with Him, but man fell from that communion because of the original sin, and kept falling over the centuries with more sins, then, God, seeing that we couldn't be in communion again with Him without His help, God sent His only Son to the earth so He could help us, when He incarnated, the divine nature of Christ and the human nature that inherited from His mother Mary united, and so we united too, our human nature healed through Christ, and Christ, when He died, death couldn't contain Him because He was God, so He broke forever the gates of Hades and the power death had in us humans and gave us the opportunity that, us uniting to Him, could heal the same way and return into that communion through Christ, and this time, the communion will be perfect, because in the beginning, Adam and Eve did not have perfect communion because they were not challenged, they needed to be tested and so all the humanity with them, so we could wish God's love and communion with Him, if not, we would have had just a robotic experience with our Creator.

Seems like an awful lot of work just for God to change His own rules.

Will you go to Hell? No one can answer that to you, certainly only God judges, but, in order to return into communion with God you need to unite to Christ, to cleanse of sin and to heal of His effects, that's essential.

And what if he doesn't believe he is a sinner? He literally said that he doesn't believe Christ is a savior of mankind. How can he be saved? How can God keep him unconvinced of his only hope for salvation?

 

[bhsmte]

Since nothing remotely like that statement had been made by seekingsolace, why did it seem a good opportunity for you to reply with an insult?

This is what he stated:

"Professing to be a Christian, and being one are very different."

My reply was; he is no position to determine who is and who isn't. With this being the case, what he states is useless.

 

[seekingsolace]

If I disobey, should my father punish me eternally? Is that just?

But it is not eternal, but temporary. Our perspective of time is but a twinkle. If you place your trust in your father, and obey him, you can be confident you will come to no harm. Because he watches over you, cares for you and directs you. How can your father help you if you turn away from him?

 

[bhsmte]

Indeed, that's why I didn't claim you weren't. I elaborated on my experience.

Your experience is your experience and has nothing to do with me specifically.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

But it is not eternal, but temporary. Our perspective of time is but a twinkle. If you place your trust in your father, and obey him, you can be confident you will come to no harm. Because he watches over you, cares for you and directs you. How can your father help you if you turn away from him?

So Hell is not eternal, in your view?

 

[seekingsolace]

My reply was; he is no position to determine who is and who isn't. With this being the case, what he states is useless.

Good thing opinions are not facts. It seems you are looking for excuses to be insulting.

 

[bhsmte]

But it is not eternal, but temporary. Our perspective of time is but a twinkle. If you place your trust in your father, and obey him, you can be confident you will come to no harm. Because he watches over you, cares for you and directs you. How can your father help you if you turn away from him?

I guess looking at the capabilities most Christians apply to their God, if the father wanted people to turns towards him, God would know what it would take to accomplish the same. That is, if this God is capable of that.

 

[seekingsolace]

So Hell is not eternal, in your view?

Where did you deduce that? As I said at the end of my post, how can your father help you if you reject him?

 

[seekingsolace]

Your experience is your experience and has nothing to do with me specifically.

Curious to see how you took offence to it then.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Where did you deduce that? As I said at the end of my post, how can your father help you if you reject him?

Help me to do what?

 

[bhsmte]

Good thing opinions are not facts. It seems you are looking for excuses to be insulting.

Not quite.

It was you who stated it is one thing to profess to be Christian and another to be one, after I had mentioned that I had been Christian for 40 years. Who was that comment about professing and actually being a Christian meant for? And, how do you personally come to the conclusion, whether someone is simply professing to be a Christian vs actually being a Christian?

 

[Skavau]

Where did you deduce that? As I said at the end of my post, how can your father help you if you reject him?

You said:

"But it is not eternal, but temporary. Our perspective of time is but a twinkle. If you place your trust in your father, and obey him, you can be confident you will come to no harm. Because he watches over you, cares for you and directs you. How can your father help you if you turn away from him?"

 

[bhsmte]

Curious to see how you took offence to it then.

You have a tendency to read something that isn't there. I simply stated, your personal experiences, have nothing to do with mine. Do you agree?

 

[seekingsolace]

I guess looking at the capabilities most Christians apply to their God, if the father wanted people to turns towards him, God would know what it would take to accomplish the same. That is, if this God is capable of that.

Indeed, He doesn't force you, your rejection is self inflicted. I would expect you to understand more about the principles of God, being a Christian for forty years.

 

[seekingsolace]

You said:

"But it is not eternal, but temporary. Our perspective of time is but a twinkle. If you place your trust in your father, and obey him, you can be confident you will come to no harm. Because he watches over you, cares for you and directs you. How can your father help you if you turn away from him?"

Helps to include the message I addressed also.

If I disobey, should my father punish me eternally? Is that just?

Disobedience is not the same as rejection.

 

[Skavau]

Helps to include the message I addressed also.


Disobedience is not the same as rejection.

Why does rejection of God command eternal torture?

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Helps to include the message I addressed also.


Disobedience is not the same as rejection.

We're talking about Hell here. Please stick with the topic. My question about eternal punishment was a question about Hell and whether it is a just response to disobedience or rejection.

 

[seekingsolace]

You have a tendency to read something that isn't there. I simply stated, your personal experiences, have nothing to do with mine. Do you agree?

I'm not in a position to say, they are not my personal experiences. I can observe similarities and draw up conclusions from experience, but that's going beyond the topic.

 

[bhsmte]

Indeed, He doesn't force you, your rejection is self inflicted. I would expect you to understand more about the principles of God, being a Christian for forty years.

And the Christian God made that person with the capability to reject, when he knows what it would take for them to accept him. If he loves all his creation, why would he do that, to 2/3 of the world's population?

 

[bhsmte]

I'm not in a position to say, they are not my personal experiences. I can observe similarities and draw up conclusions from experience, but that's going beyond the topic.

Agree, which is why others will likely disregard your personal experiences, as it pertains to their own.