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Yes you have said that. You've said that it is right for God to punish me for what I think. That is a statement in favour of thought-crime. You've said that it is right for God to condemn me to hell. That is a statement in favour of torture.Yeah, because we said that. I think you're inferring too much.
God will enlighten you before you die that you are a sinner. It doesn't matter if you're 90 years old, if God never visits you and shows you that you are a sinner then heaven will be your home. You have to realize that you are dead in sins and dying and going to hell to be able to call to him. At this moment when he calls to you, it becomes a choice to deligently seek him out or to reject the call. Jesus said many are called but few are chosen. He calls and it becomes a choice for us to forsake it all and become willing for his will to be done. He will not grab you by the hair of your head either, it will be a small still voice telling you that you ought to be a better person. This light will shine to everyone and it's your choice to take heed to that light. Time and chance will happen to everyone!I deny Jesus as a savior of mankind, but I do think historically speaking, he was a real person. I find it extremely unlikely there is a God of any kind, even more unlikely a god that actually "loves" his creation and for some reason cares so much if people love him back. And to make it clear too, I don't believe in the devil either. I'm an honest and caring person, I've never done an "evil" thing my entire life. With that all said, would I go to hell?
Nope, if anything I would say God wants you to turn away from living for yourself and live for Him. I wouldn't preach the way you described. It wouldn't be a very good method for bringing anyone to the Lord.Yes you have said that. You've said that it is right for God to punish me for what I think. That is a statement in favour of thought-crime. You've said that it is right for God to condemn me to hell. That is a statement in favour of torture.
Yes you have said that. You've said that it is right for God to punish me for what I think. That is a statement in favour of thought-crime. You've said that it is right for God to condemn me to hell. That is a statement in favour of torture.
It does not matter that God wants me to turn away. The fact is that if I do not, for whatever reason, he will punish me according to you. He will punish me for what I think. This means that you are in favour of the idea of thought-crame.Nope, if anything I would say God wants you to turn away from living for yourself and live for Him. I wouldn't preach the way you described. It wouldn't be a very good method for bringing anyone to the Lord.
They do, but no-one deserves to be tortured for eternity.If by your standards, a person who molests children, murders and is overall a detestable individual, does he deserve punishment? Now if that is by our standards, how can we assess it from Gods perspective?
How can we even attempt to witness to others with all this lumber!? Well, that's where God comes in.If i thought scripture was reliable, i would likely still be a christian.
Take the log out of your own eye.........
I make no judgement about your relationship with God.It does not matter that God wants me to turn away. The fact is that if I do not, for whatever reason, he will punish me according to you. He will punish me for what I think. This means that you are in favour of the idea of thought-crame.
You use the word torture, what if it's being separated that is the torture. Is that unethical?They do, but no-one deserves to be tortured for eternity.
Yes.
If God knows that by separating people he will cause them torture (and there's every reason to think he does) then it is unethical.
However, it is stated clearly in Scripture regardless if you believe it or not. I happen to believe God and what He says, which means you were never born again to begin with. A Christian is transferred from death to life and cannot become unborn again.If i thought scripture was reliable, i would likely still be a christian.
Take the log out of your own eye.........
Who decides what is ethical?Yes.
If God knows that by separating people he will cause them torture (and there's every reason to think he does) then it is unethical.
God will not punish you for the way you think. Don't you think God would show you that you are a sinner first and give you a chance to repent? You have to realize that you are dead in sins before you can become converted. If you genuinely have never felt like a sinner and no need to repent then heaven will be your home. If God has spoken to your heart and you continue to make up excuses then he will indeed punish you. He gives us all a chance.It does not matter that God wants me to turn away. The fact is that if I do not, for whatever reason, he will punish me according to you. He will punish me for what I think. This means that you are in favour of the idea of thought-crame.
"Hell" is a very well worn concept though and I truly don't believe in something so vividly described by many but never seen by one.
Then, yes. Why put people in such a dismal existence? Annihilationism would be more ethical.What if the anguish is simply knowing they rejected good, originating from envy and jealousy rather than grief?
God does not need us to support Him. You are completely misunderstanding. We simply believe Him. It's not up to us to support Him.I never said you did - I said that if God does punish me for what I think that you'd support it.
This means that you support the eventual removal of free expression and free thought.
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