If I'm an Atheist and I am not a bad person, will I go to hell?

nonbeliever314 said:

I know there's no hell.

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I know there is.

bhsmte said:

No evidence then?

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One need only to study a building to learn about the architect.

Kirsten said:

Evolution has been proven scientifically impossible. I would never concern myself with it. The point of the teachings of said theory is an attempt to prove God is not necessary.
Why WOULD a non-believer be concerned about going to hell. They wouldn't.

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Why would a Christian who does not agree with evolution be obsessed with it? Have you seen the discussions of the same on this board?

Who proved evolution scientifically impossible? I missed that one, did they receive a Nobel prize for their discovery?

GillDouglas said:

One need only to study a building to learn about the architect.

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You mean the building with anonymous authors?

bhsmte said:

Why would a Christian who does not agree with evolution be obsessed with it? Have you seen the discussions of the same on this board?

Who proved evolution scientifically impossible? I missed that one, did they receive a Nobel prize for their discovery?

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Perhaps because the teaching is deceitful and they wish to shed the light for people who are blind.

Kirsten said:

I know there is.

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For your own purposes, that is cool.

bhsmte said:

For your own purposes, that is cool.

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I have no purpose for hell.

Kirsten said:

Perhaps because the teaching is deceitful and they wish to shed the light for people who are blind.

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Perhaps those who do not believe in hell, feel it is morally corrupt, for people to be judged because they can not reconcile a certain theology with reality and this means 2/3 of the world's population is doomed, according to this theology.

bhsmte said:

You mean the building with anonymous authors?

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All of creation.

bhsmte said:

You mean the building with anonymous authors?

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Well you may know the name of the architect, but you can gather a better understanding about him by studying his work. What I mean is you can learn a lot about God by studying what He has created.

nonbeliever314 said:

I deny Jesus as a savior of mankind, but I do think historically speaking, he was a real person. I find it extremely unlikely there is a God of any kind, even more unlikely a god that actually "loves" his creation and for some reason cares so much if people love him back. And to make it clear too, I don't believe in the devil either. I'm an honest and caring person, I've never done an "evil" thing my entire life. With that all said, would I go to hell?

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That is why most don't think that God would ever allow them to go to hell. What do you consider evil? We do not see ourselves as bad people. We're decent enough, right? We don't murder, steal, etc. so even the little things we do that aren't that bad surely couldn't send us to hell. That's where we are wrong. God can only accept perfection into Heaven and none of us have that perfection. If we do even the slightest bad thing (a "white" lie, swear, say something hurtful to someone, be unforgiving, be selfish) that still causes us to fall short from perfection. Unless we are 100% perfect without sin (even a mistake is sin), then we will never enter Heaven. And that is where Jesus comes in. Jesus took our punishment for sin, even for the slightest wrong, and died so that we could be reconciled to God through Him. We receive his perfection by placing faith in Him to save us. He is the only way to God; the only way to Heaven. Faith in Jesus changes us from the inside out so that even bad thoughts repulse us. He gives us the Holy Spirit which renews our thinking and enables us to live the way He intended us to live from the beginning. Even the nicest person you know will not make it to Heaven if they deny Jesus because if you do not have His sacrifice for you, you have to pay for your sin. That is why the Bible calls what Jesus did the "Good News"! We can have eternal life because of what Jesus did, but if you deny Him, you can't accept His sacrifice for you. The greatest love was shown by God. He could have left us to die in our sin, but because He is love, He made a way for us to be reconciled to Himself. He is also just which means, no sin will go unpunished, even that little white lie. He is completely good and holy so He cannot stand the slightest sin and a just God will not allow sin to go unpunished. What would we do if a judge allowed criminals to get away with crimes they have committed? That wouldn't be a good judge. As far as being good enough to get into Heaven, based on how you live your life, that isn't what gets you to Heaven. Faith alone in Jesus by the grace shown to us from God. That is the only way. When a person has true saving faith in Jesus, He then lives a better life because He is saved and the Holy Spirit is now in him changing him. He becomes a new creation who now lives for Christ and not for himself. Christians do not do good things to get saved, we do good things because we are saved. Our good deeds did not save us, our faith did and that faith produces good deeds. Hope this makes sense and helps!

Kirsten said:

I have no purpose for hell.

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In your theology, hell has no purpose?

If so, why do you think your God would allow it?

GillDouglas said:

Well you may know the name of the architect, but you can gather a better understanding about him by studying his work. What I mean is you can learn a lot about God by studying what He has created.

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No problem with you believing a God created the universe. I don't see any evidence to go along with that though.

Albion said:

Well, of course, we may find slight differences, but we also find them among Christians who define heresy and all the rest of this. Some denominations will disfellowship a dissident while others will only excommunicate them, and still others will merely identify them as holding an unacceptable belief. There is no real difference between this and the same thing happening among Atheists. Then too, you are speaking here of what YOU would do as an atheist. Other atheists take a different approach.

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And? This makes atheism a religion how? You're looking for the faintest similarities, while ignoring the glaring differences: no prescribed doctrines that must be believed and never doubted; no creed; no prescribed sacred text(s); no rituals or traditions that must be followed; no "prophets" that must be admired, revered, or feared; no prescribed rules for living; no prescribed holy days or dietary customs; no unified mythos. I could go on...

bhsmte said:

Perhaps those who do not believe in hell, feel it is morally corrupt, for people to be judged because they can not reconcile a certain theology with reality and this means 2/3 of the world's population is doomed, according to this theology.

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One would not concern themselves with something they cannot perceive or do not believe.

bhsmte said:

Perhaps those who do not believe in hell, feel it is morally corrupt, for people to be judged because they can not reconcile a certain theology with reality and this means 2/3 of the world's population is doomed, according to this theology.

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Why do you concern yourself with what someone else believes? Christians are judged as being bigots and haters all the time. I frankly do not care. Nor should you. Everyone has an opinion.

Kirsten said:

Perhaps because the teaching is deceitful and they wish to shed the light for people who are blind.

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Ah, the blind people who do not agree with you. Have heard that one before.

bhsmte said:

No problem with you believing a God created the universe. I don't see any evidence to go along with that though.

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That I can agree with. It is my understanding that you would be blind to those for a reason. Maybe you're not meant to? It's not for me to say.

bhsmte said:

If impossible, then what?

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With God all things are possible.

GillDouglas said:

One would not concern themselves with something they cannot perceive or do not believe.

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As I already stated, your statement is blown out of the water by the Christians on this board who do not believe in evolution, but are quite concerned about it to the point of obsession.