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If I listen to metal, am I being a bad christian?

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LondonsBurning said:
2. They often are ridiculed these days on the mainstream market. Stryper's song "Honestly" was #7 on VH1's AWESOMELY BAD Metal Songs just because they tsing about Jesus and not worshiping the devil
And it reached 1# on MTV's video countdown in the summer of 1987.
 
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YOu got to also realize that the Main Stream music and media fear god.

THat is why it is best not to be in-your-face when it comes to showing religion in music now a days.

THat way, it makes it were the listener has to learn on their own.

THe way I see it, you cannot force faith on a person, the person has to find faith on their own.

Plus, it takes away alot of the stuff for teenagers to rebel against if it is not forced on them.
 
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thegrimmling said:
YOu got to also realize that the Main Stream music and media fear god..
That's because God draws a BIG red line in the sand of what is right and wrong. People in general doesn't like to be told what to do.
 
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Also, as a person that in the past avoided that type of music, it is seem as un-cool in alot of people's eyes.

It saddens me today how many bands I used to like became political and are speaking out against what I believe.

The you got bands like System Of A Down that make no sense seeing their first albume was about killing people for no reason and hating peace and then they back that (Idiot in my opinion( I'll bet this will be edited seeing it shows a strong opinion)) Michel Moore on their last album.
 
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I'm not a christian but I fail to see why listening to any band (secular or christian) would effect your faith unless you wanted it to. Which then it's of your own choice and not the music's fault. I've probably noted that I listen to bands like Blind Guardian and Dwarven and I still don't believe in elves.
 
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The Meaning Of... said:
I'm not a christian but I fail to see why listening to any band (secular or christian) would effect your faith unless you wanted it to. Which then it's of your own choice and not the music's fault. I've probably noted that I listen to bands like Blind Guardian and Dwarven and I still don't believe in elves.
It happenes subconsciously. Everything we do affects us, even if you say that you dont allow it to. But the fact is, the more of the world we get, the less room we have for Jesus. That is why christians like to listen to christian, and not secular music.
Elves has not created you. And they do not try to lure you away form your creator.. ;)
 
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I listen to a lot of metal myself. I've read a lot of posts and don't feel like quoting all of them :p but here are some remarks on somethings sayd. Although the metal temperament might seem angry, negative, hate etc. I've much more often seen the opisite. Most metalheads, dispite their apearance and sometimes anti-religion/christian band shirts etc are for the most part some of the most social and friendly people around.
A handycapt person in a wheelchair at a metal fest (secular), people will raise they're beer glasses to him and his 'charriot of steal' and toast to him. I've stricken up conversations with complete strangers with no problem. The atmosphere is generally a very friendly one, though looking at a fest like that you might say it was all the murderers/criminals in the world gathered ;) On my way to a huge metalfest (25000 people on campground, 3 days long, one of largest in europe) I was on my own, met 3 people on my few hour trip there by train and ended up putting up my tent with them and spending my time there with them, even got to share a bit of my faith with them.

I try to avoid the very anti-christian bands. I'm mostly into christian black metal (Antestor, Crimson Moonlight, Lengsel, Slechtvalk etc), and wether you feel positive or negative towards it I think depends on taste. Black metal, yes, even secular with satanic lyrics calms me. It's the deep melodies en musical genious behind it I love, the music is so deap and rich, not just a single rythm R&B/Hiphop song or whatever (nothing against it, just not my thing), it's sometimes even reffered to as neo-clasical. I can dream away to it, let myself 'drown' in it. I myself get very unrestfull listening to say hardcore and rap.

As long as the lyrics are not worshipping satan or over the top hate/gore/racial I'm willing to listen and enjoy it. Even if I don't agree with all the lyrics I respect, and apreciate the creativity GOD, not satan, cause satan can only corrupt and destroy, NOT CREATE, put in them, and pray that one day they will find the truth in Christ.
 
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cwr89 said:
Listen to some Staple, Demon Hunter, Project 86, Beloved, Zao,

there all heavy metal christian bands.

personally I am huge mega fan of Metallica.

don't feel like a bad person about that, (this is only what I feel though)

~Casey

Metallica rocks, especially the older albums :)
 
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thegrimmling said:
The way I see it, is if you listen to a style of music and it causes you to doubt your own faith, then it is your issue, not what the music is saying.

If a song is going to shack your personal faith, then you are weak.
But we are all weak somewhere, and if we play to our weaknesses we will become defeated. For one person listening to some forms of music may feed his flesh, and for someone else it might be drinking even one serving of alcohol.
 
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thegrimmling said:
After all, we do not need another Striper band around. Their downfall was being to up-front with the faith and that got them bumped from the main stream media.

Styper were young in the Lord, and faced huge persecution from "Christians," most of whom had sins of their own about to become public. After a few years of actually living what they preached, and being shredded from both sides, they stumbled, and started living a double life. When that happened their career dwindled. They have repented, and are somewhat involved in music, but they also have families to raise now.
 
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LondonsBurning said:
They often are ridiculed these days on the mainstream market. Stryper's song "Honestly" was #7 on VH1's AWESOMELY BAD Metal Songs just because they tsing about Jesus and not worshiping the devil

I think they are ridiculed because "Honestly" was a horribly bad song - typical of the "glam-rock" bands of the era.
 
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Idicious said:
Although the metal temperament might seem angry, negative, hate etc. I've much more often seen the opisite. Most metalheads, dispite their apearance and sometimes anti-religion/christian band shirts etc are for the most part some of the most social and friendly people around.
A handycapt person in a wheelchair at a metal fest (secular), people will raise they're beer glasses to him and his 'charriot of steal' and toast to him. I've stricken up conversations with complete strangers with no problem. The atmosphere is generally a very friendly one, though looking at a fest like that you might say it was all the murderers/criminals in the world gathered ;) On my way to a huge metalfest (25000 people on campground, 3 days long, one of largest in europe) I was on my own, met 3 people on my few hour trip there by train and ended up putting up my tent with them and spending my time there with them, even got to share a bit of my faith with them.

I agree with you on this point.

If you ever get a chance - try to get to Cornerstone Festival http://www.cornerstonefestival.com It's the best place to go to experience Christian "metal" bands. It's the only place I've ever felt like I actually belonged with the crowd.
 
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holyrokker said:
I agree with you on this point.

If you ever get a chance - try to get to Cornerstone Festival. It's the best place to go to experience Christian "metal" bands. It's the only place I've ever felt like I actually belonged with the crowd.

Would love to go to Cornerstone sometime but it's halfway around the world so thats kind of a problem :( There are still some good pretty decent christian metal fests in Europe like Nordicfest (went there last october :) ) and Bobfest (planning on going there coming March :) )
 
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I think that in MOST music...(notice the most because it doesn't apply to all) you can find a different meaning. For example I know when my non Christian family listens to Christian music it doesn't have the same meaning. HOWEVER if I listen to non Christian music I can take it in a different way. For example: Hoobastank has a song called "The Reason" Even though the song is not about God I can make it mean that for me. He is the reason to change who I used to be and to start over. I think it's a question of where you stand.
 
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I think that in MOST music...(notice the most because it doesn't apply to all) you can find a different meaning. For example I know when my non Christian family listens to Christian music it doesn't have the same meaning. HOWEVER if I listen to non Christian music I can take it in a different way. For example: Hoobastank has a song called "The Reason" Even though the song is not about God I can make it mean that for me. He is the reason to change who I used to be and to start over. I think it's a question of where you stand.
 
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I think that in MOST music...(notice the most because it doesn't apply to all) you can find a different meaning. For example I know when my non Christian family listens to Christian music it doesn't have the same meaning. HOWEVER if I listen to non Christian music I can take it in a different way. For example: Hoobastank has a song called "The Reason" Even though the song is not about God I can make it mean that for me. He is the reason to change who I used to be and to start over. I think it's a question of where you stand.
 
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I think that in MOST music...(notice the most because it doesn't apply to all) you can find a different meaning. For example I know when my non Christian family listens to Christian music it doesn't have the same meaning. HOWEVER if I listen to non Christian music I can take it in a different way. For example: Hoobastank has a song called "The Reason" Even though the song is not about God I can make it mean that for me. He is the reason to change who I used to be and to start over. I think it's a question of where you stand.
 
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