If I have the Respect of every Creature, I have the respect of Evolution?

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Hi there,

So I am just wondering: if I have the Respect of every Creature, I have the respect of Evolution?

Nothing is missing?

What would help me tell, if one thing or another was going to help?

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G
(Mark 8:36)

"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and/or/but lose his own soul?"

God Bless!
 
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Good word!

Is it true of Evolution, though?

Hmmm...
Either way, "what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and/or/but lose his own soul?", etc...?

Or if he (or she) gains the whole world, can he still keep and not sell (out) his (or her) soul, etc...?

But is this reason to not to try and win the whole world, especially for Christ, etc...?

God Bless!
 
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Hi there,

So I am just wondering: if I have the Respect of every Creature, I have the respect of Evolution?

Nothing is missing?

What would help me tell, if one thing or another was going to help?

Thanks,
G
No.

Evolution isn't a thing, it's a process. It doesn't have respect, or any other emotional reactions.
 
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No.

Evolution isn't a thing, it's a process. It doesn't have respect, or any other emotional reactions.

I completely agree, but only the God of it does, etc...

God Bless!

Evolution (or life) is a process (or program) created and/or designed and/or made by a thing or a being that has feelings and/or emotions, etc...

God Bless!
 
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Evolution is a process (or program) created and/or designed and/or made by a thing or a being that has feelings and/or emotions, etc...

God Bless!
In that belief system you could say the same thing about every detail in the universe. Every process, event, creature and coincidence is created and/or designed and/or made by a thing or a being that has feelings and/or emotions.

It might be pleasing to remember and exclaim "God made that!" about a particular thing, but the story goes that he made everything, so it doesn't really tell you much.
 
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No.

Evolution isn't a thing, it's a process. It doesn't have respect, or any other emotional reactions.

That's not fair.

All you evolutionists ever talk about is the effect it has on nature.

If I have the respect of that nature, through it's creatures, who are you to say "I don't like the idea of Evolution, you think you have"?

I mean isn't the point that it confers some kind of fitness, for believing in it??

A thing isn't a thing, its a concept???
 
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In that belief system you could say the same thing about every detail in the universe. Every process, event, creature and coincidence is created and/or designed and/or made by a thing or a being that has feelings and/or emotions.

It might be pleasing to remember and exclaim "God made that!" about a particular thing, but the story goes that he made everything, so it doesn't really tell you much.
Except for the fact that that is exactly what I believe, etc...

Made everything down to it's very smallest and largest detail, knows and fully knew everything down it's very smallest and largest detail (and everything in-between) and knows/knew all of it, from before ever even making any of it or setting it all in motion, etc...

That it is all just like a "program" etc... That He (God) made, designed, fully knew, etc, from before ever making it, etc, down it's smallest and largest detail, and everything in-between, etc, etc, etc, from before ever making it or even thinking of it, etc, let alone setting it all in motion, etc, and knows all of that, and everything in-between, etc, down it's all very, very ending of it, or all of it, or any of it, etc, and everything in-between, etc, etc, etc...

God Bless!
 
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That's not fair.

All you evolutionists ever talk about is the effect it has on nature.

If I have the respect of that nature, through it's creatures, who are you to say "I don't like the idea of Evolution, you think you have"?

I mean isn't the point that it confers some kind of fitness, for believing in it??

A thing isn't a thing, its a concept???
It is, and was, and always will be, a thought or idea or "concept" (or program), etc, in the mind of God, etc...

So is it a "thing", IDK...?

God Bless!
 
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That's not fair.

All you evolutionists ever talk about is the effect it has on nature.

If I have the respect of that nature, through it's creatures, who are you to say "I don't like the idea of Evolution, you think you have"?

I mean isn't the point that it confers some kind of fitness, for believing in it??

A thing isn't a thing, its a concept???
Belief in evolution is completely irrelevant to evolution. I don't think it confers any kind of fitness because it isn't a genetic trait.

The only life with any knowledge or beliefs about evolution are humans, and that's historically very recent.

All life evolves, very little life has beliefs.
 
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No.

Evolution isn't a thing, it's a process. It doesn't have respect, or any other emotional reactions.

Actually, I worked out the clear way to rebuke this statement:

Nature is Evolution's foundation (its what Darwin studied in order to come up with the theory) and a foundation is a thing - a foundation is not a process!

You are basically saying "I am taking the wind for a foundation" that makes no sense!
 
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Actually, I worked out the clear way to rebuke this statement:

Nature is Evolution's foundation (its what Darwin studied in order to come up with the theory) and a foundation is a thing - a foundation is not a process!

You are basically saying "I am taking the wind for a foundation" that makes no sense!
I'll accept that the study of nature led to Darwin describing the theory of evolution. And nature in some contexts could be said to be all of life, and all of life is affected by the process of evolution.

But a foundation isn't necessarily a thing, and even if it is, if a process has a foundation the process is not necessarily it's foundation.
 
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I mean isn't the point that it confers some kind of fitness, for believing in it??
No. Well... NO!
That's not the point. You have been told again and again and again what Evolution is... and you never listen.

Gottservant, I understand that you have issues... but perhaps you might want to consider that you should better be dealing with these, than with the non-sensical ideas that you post here.

Asking questions about "Evolution" that have absolutely nothing to do with the concept of "Evolution" will not get you anywhere. You will never find good answers if you keep asking the wrong questions.

You seem to be a person with a huge inherent curiosity. Please use it once in a while to learn something.
 
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Actually, I worked out the clear way to rebuke this statement:

Nature is Evolution's foundation (its what Darwin studied in order to come up with the theory) and a foundation is a thing - a foundation is not a process!
That's true; nature is the foundation or substrate in which the process of evolution proceeds, just as it is the foundation or substrate in which the process of erosion proceeds, and all the other processes in nature.

It doesn't 'rebuke' the idea of evolution as a process at all - it enables it.
 
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