If I Evolved From Slime, Why Can't I Remember What I Ate For Breakfast This Morning?

[Split Rock]

A few facts for you Evos.

1. You claim I evolved from slime.
2. I don't remember what I ate for breakfast this morning.
3. According to Evolution, I should remember what I ate for breakfast, since survival and eating are two different things.

Therefore, I conclude that evolution is the Big Lie.

Thank you.

 

[rmwilliamsll]

i went to hear R.Humphries speak on his white hole theory to support YECism from the Bible.

i noticed that this was a constant emotional appeal that really resonated with the audience:
you are human, you are not slime, therefore evolution is impossible. because it says you came from slime.

beyond the reasonableness of carrying on a scientific argument with appeals to strong emotions, the interesting thing is how natural this strawman idea of the TofE is. People seem to have this intuitive idea that mutation and evolution is very personal. Like the incredible hulk mutation, they see evolution in very singular and personal terms.

but populations evolve not individuals.
look back in your family line, somewhere your ancestors ceased being the nationality you are. you go back far enough and they cease being members of a nation state at all, but identify themselves by language or culture. go back further and that language and culture changes.

people don't find it odd that their ancestors didn't speak english and weren't americans. the only thing passing between the generations is a bit of DNA, so what?

 

[plindboe]

A. Evolution says we are rocks
B. I remember eating pudding today
C. Therefore God exists

<-inspired by Gottservant

A. Anything you can imagine exists
B. Except for Evolution
C. Therefore God exists

<-inspired by LittleNipper

Peter

 

[KerrMetric]

i went to hear R.Humphries speak on his white hole theory to support YECism from the Bible.

i noticed that this was a constant emotional appeal that really resonated with the audience:
you are human, you are not slime, therefore evolution is impossible. because it says you can from slime.

beyond the reasonableness of carrying on a scientific argument with appeals to strong emotions, the interesting thing is how natural this strawman idea of the TofE is. People seem to have this intuitive idea that mutation and evolution is very personal. Like the incredible hulk mutation, they see evolution in very singular and personal terms.

but populations evolve not individuals.
look back in your family line, somewhere your ancestors ceased being the nationality you are. you go back far enough and they cease being members of a nation state at all, but identify themselves by language or culture. go back further and that language and culture changes.

people don't find it odd that their ancestors didn't speak english and weren't americans. the only thing passing between the generations is a bit of DNA, so what?

Did you get a chance to ask him questions?

 

[LittleNipper]

A. Evolution says we are rocks
B. I remember eating pudding today
C. Therefore God exists

<-inspired by Gottservant

A. Anything you can imagine exists
B. Except for Evolution
C. Therefore God exists

<-inspired by LittleNipper

Peter

How'd you'd like me to whoooop you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Signed

LittleNipper

A. GOD exists
B. GOD created from nothing.
C. Therefore you are nothing without GOD.

 

[plindboe]

How'd you'd like me to whoooop you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Signed

LittleNipper

A. GOD exists
B. GOD created from nothing.
C. Therefore you are nothing without GOD.

A. Some people have lively fantasies
B. Indoctrination is a real problem
C. Therefore religion exists

Peter

 

[rmwilliamsll]

Did you get a chance to ask him questions?

no. there was a limited Q&A time. whole lecture plus Q&A was exactly 1 hour.
curiously i felt a bit like i had snuck into a John Birch society meeting as was afraid to say anything lest my thoughts could be read and they realized that i am the enemy.....*grin*
i sat with a friend that is OEC and he couldn't sit still, i was afraid he was going to give us away....

 

[thaumaturgy]

Oh this thread went off the rails from the git-go! Please keep the bizarre syllogisms coming!

Is this the non-PO "Logic" of which Dad speaks?

All p=q
Some q=m
therefore No n=r

I would have done a LOT better back in unnergrad Logic class with this!

 

[thaumaturgy]

How'd you'd like me to whoooop you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Signed

LittleNipper

A. GOD exists
B. GOD created from nothing.
C. Therefore you are nothing without GOD.

LittleNipper,
I think the logical argument you are going for with this goes:

The universe is made up of contingent actions which require an initial cause. Since there must have been an initial uncaused cause that started it, that Uncaused Cause is God (a la Aquinas)

Since God is non-contingent and is the only being with necessary existence (a la Anselm), then God created something from Nothing.

If you fail to believe this then prepare for this non-contingent being with necessary existence to whoop you and once the whooping begins it is logical to assume that said whooping will continue forever and may, by backwards induction, be assumed to have always been happening. (a la Mohammed Ali).

Quod erat demonstrandum.

 

[KerrMetric]

curiously i felt a bit like i had snuck into a John Birch society meeting .

The irony being that the demographic of the meeting you attended and a John Birch meeting would be pretty close.

 

[LittleNipper]

Well, I guess that beats a Jim Elm, a Patrick Dogwood , or a Stella Hickory Society meeting......... In any case, sounds like you were in the woods.

 

[EvoDan]

A. The Theory of Evolution has holes in it.
B. Waffles have holes
C. Therefore, the TOE says you had waffles for breakfast.

<<nyah!>>

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Ah, but what of cheese? The holey kind?

 

[Valgaav]

I just read the topic post.

That is one of the absolute stupidest arguments I've ever seen.

 

[TooCurious]

This thread reminds me of today's Ozy and Millie strip:

http://www.ozyandmillie.org/d/20070119.html

 

[Split Rock]

I just read the topic post.

That is one of the absolute stupidest arguments I've ever seen.

I will pray for you

 

[Makaro]

I think we all just got Poe'd.

Split Rock's an Agnostic. Therefore the chances that this is a PARODY is quite high. Or is there something I am missing?

 

[TooCurious]

I think we all just got Poe'd.

Split Rock's an Agnostic. Therefore the chances that this is a PARODY is quite high. Or is there something I am missing?

Yup, it's parody. Hence the webcomic post instead of actual argument.

 

[Valgaav]

Oh, THANK you. I thought it was real. Geez!

 

[Split Rock]

Yup, it's parody. Hence the webcomic post instead of actual argument.

I will pray for you too