If I become a lesbian

[welshman]

I have only read this thread where a person is talking about being sexually abused and wondering about adopting a possible homosexual lifestyle as a result.
With this in mind, the Bible is the place to seek refuge, comfort, wisdom and discernment. A trained pastor or Biblical counsellor will be able to help her do this.
It's pretty straight forward. Someone on an internet forum will not be able to counsel someone as effectively in a number of ways as would someone in real life.

 

[SkyWriting]

We must never deviate from, nor twist scripture to fit what our mind has determined to be true. Encouraging someone to pursue a lifestyle contrary to scripture is wrong and speaks volumes of the kind of light being shared by that person. God loves us, but if we fail to walk in HIS way, we will be damned for eternity. How can you twist scripture so?

God loves us all and wants that none should perish, but all who disobey God and willfully sin against HIS word will have no part in the Kingdom of Heaven. When we truly possess HIS Holy Spirit, it cleanses us from SIN that we repent of. Repent means to turn away from.

Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate [by perversion], nor those who participate in homosexuality,

Yes. Some parts of the letters do fail to treat others just as the writers
would like judgment placed on them. They are in error of the golden rule.

 

[SkyWriting]

We're simply showing you what God has said about it.

I should do the same for any sexual thoughts you have?
A glance at a married woman perhaps?
Eating too much?
Bein lazy?
Not caring for widows like you should?
Not giving your last pennies in the collection plate?
Is it my place to convict you?

 

[Aldebaran]

Yes. Some parts of the letters do fail to treat others just as the writers
would like judgment placed on them. They are in error of the golden rule.

Then perhaps Jesus Christ Himself was in error when he warned that those who reject Him would end up in the lake of fire at the end of the age. After all, He probably wouldn't want to end up in the lake of fire if he didn't follow what someone told him to do. Would you say Jesus wasn't following the Golden Rule?

 

[Aldebaran]

I should do the same for any sexual thoughts you have?
A glance at a married woman perhaps?
Eating too much?
Bein lazy?

If I'm doing something that violates what God says is expected of me and you care enough to tell me about it, then yes. Even the one about eating too much. If you saw that I was 400 lbs and was eating all the wrong stuff and my health was failing, you'd do well to encourage me to eat better. That's what you would do if you were a friend and cared about me.

 

[SkyWriting]

Correct! The way they escape what you refer to as the "book of death" is faith in Christ and repentance of sin. They don't have to be a nun in order to know better. The obvious damage they do to their marriage is knowledge enough. Reading God's Word is another way to know. But it would take a serious level of ignorance to not know that it's wrong to commit adultery by having sex with a person other than your spouse.

A guy split with his wife and she moved back to another state to be at home with family.
How soon can he start dating?
Is that in your rule book?

 

[danstribe]

That's not what scripture says:

Romans 1
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.
20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world,[a] in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.


God’s Anger at Sin
18 But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, wicked people who suppress the truth by their wickedness.[a] 19 They know the truth about God because he has made it obvious to them. 20 For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.

God says "My thoughts are not your thoughts nor are your ways My ways" Isaiah 55:8.
"To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." Isaiah 8:20.
"Now the Bereans were more noble-minded than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if these teachings were true. Acts 17:11.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

They don' have YOUR sense of right and wrong...no doubt.
And perhaps your mission is to intervene. That would be
your conviction for you.

It is not my place to decide what you need to do.
Get it yet? It's not MY place to decide what God
convicts you to do....intervene or not.

Or what passage you should read tomorrow.
That's not MY right or wrong to convict you.

If you want to know right from wrong,
truthfully,
no one can teach you nor reach you (as you have posted).

You will have to pray fervently , asking God, and keep asking, for
HIS intervention, AS HIS WORD ALWAYS SAYS.

Not as you nor I say, but AS HIS WORD SAYS, ALL THE TIME.

The sin is when you or I try to decide what sin is or isn't.

God already told us what sin is and what it isn't.

Someone (it seems) (like in a cult, or abusive relationship)
hurt you badly , and used 'rules' or the 'bible' as if to control you.

That was their sin, whoever they were, if they did that.

Your healing, like bluerose, depends on TRUTH, GRACE and MERCY and FORGIVES ,
not on trying to escape from God's Word,

but perfectly being healed in JESUS , gently, as HE SAYS.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

A guy split with his wife and she moved back to another state to be at home with family.
How soon can he start dating?
Is that in your rule book?

Simple question.
True answer, in God's Word.

Never.

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

Yes. Some parts of the letters do fail to treat others just as the writers
would like judgment placed on them. They are in error of the golden rule.

SkyWriting, Are you saying that the Apostles letters are in error? Do you believe the Bible to be the infallible and inspired word of God?

Deuteronomy 12:32 See that you do all I command you; do not add to it or take away from it

 

[Aldebaran]

A guy split with his wife and she moved back to another state to be at home with family.
How soon can he start dating?
Is that in your rule book?

I'll simply inform you that God's word tells us that a man who divorces his wife and marries another, except in the case of his wife being unfaithful to him, is committing adultery. This comes from the "rule book" of Luke, and were the words of Jesus Himself. Chapter 16, verse 18.

 

[SkyWriting]

If I'm doing something that violates what God says is expected of me and you care enough to tell me about it, then yes. Even the one about eating too much. If you saw that I was 400 lbs and was eating all the wrong stuff and my health was failing, you'd do well to encourage me to eat better. That's what you would do if you were a friend and cared about me.

I've seen and known people just like that.
I don't want that advice for me or to give
it to them either.

And that's my conviction to make for me.
You still don't get it. It's my place to decide
for me.

 

[SkyWriting]

I'll simply inform you that God's word tells us that a man who divorces his wife and marries another, except in the case of his wife being unfaithful to him, is committing adultery. This comes from the "rule book" of Luke, and were the words of Jesus Himself. Chapter 16, verse 18.

So I should tell him that?
I decide, that would be stupid.
I decide what is right for me.
Perhaps a minister would decide differently.
It takes time...I think you get it.

 

[Aldebaran]

I've seen and known people just like that.
I don't want that advice for me or to give
it to them either.

And that's my conviction to make for me.
You still don't get it. It's my place to decide
for me.

What place does God have in your life?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

What? To be amazed at the idea that we get to reinvent what sin is?

?

Is it okay (according to the rules ) , (even if as a 'student'/ newby)

to make up rules opposed to His Word, against God's Word,

to define sin in a way opposed to His Word,

to not repent,

to encourage sin in others,

and still carry the label Christian ?

 

[Aldebaran]

So I should tell him that?
I decide not.

Then you're simply watching him sin and doing nothing to correct him--allowing him to continue in error.
Would you also watch a blind person walk toward a cliff and not warn them that they're about to fall?

 

[Aldebaran]

?

Is it okay (according to the rules ) , (even if as a 'student'/ newby)

to make up rules opposed to His Word, against God's Word,

to define sin in a way opposed to His Word,

to not repent,

to encourage sin in others,

and still carry the label Christian ?

I think you quoted the wrong post, according to what you're asking.

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

Its not your place to judge the lifestyle of others
unless you wish us to judge yours.

In everything then, do unto others as you would have them
do unto you. For this is the essence of the Law and the prophets.

And yes, some of those passages do fail the above two sentences.
But those "passing judgment" passages do not claim:
For this is the essence of the Law and the prophets.

All things are to be tested to scripture. What you are stating fails. I am not passing judgement, I am however quoting what scripture clearly states. It is sin to practice homosexuality. That is not me judging. That is what God says.

You walk in a different light than Jesus Christ shines on the path to righteousness through faith. All things must stand the test to what scripture states. You are not speaking TRUTH according to the LORD...and that is a very dangerous place to be...especially when one is trying to teach it.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

QUOTE=]...we decide what is a sin against God. After all, death only comes after knowledge.[/QUOTE

I think this is described as idolatry
and/or witchcraft or sorcery in the BIBLE. (GOD'S WORD).

Anyone remember the reference in Scripture?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I think you quoted the wrong post, according to what you're asking.

I was agreeing with your post at the time, I think. Not questioning it.