if Harry Potter were real he would be going to hell

[abysmul]

2 Cor. 11:14b-15a: "Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness."

Satan doesn't wear a red suit with a name tag that says "Hi, I'm here to deceive you" and point his pitchfork at Christians. Instead, he appears harmless and "light", attractive and positive. He poses as Christ and mixes truth with error. So finding or imposing Christian principles onto works of fiction written by avowed non-Christians (or ignoring the questionable beliefs of professing ones) in no way proves that the likes of Harry Potter are harmless or even positive religious entertainment. Today we have those such as Rob Bell who spread teachings like Universalism and are adored by many Christians as having the truth, and likely will be given places alongside Lewis as great Christian writers. But the question is not how many Christian authors we can find to compare with the Potter series, but whether any kind of magic or blood drinking (!) could possibly be condoned by God.

PS: When Christians feel deprived of entertainment if they can't read books about magic spells, something is seriously wrong. Just my 2 cents.

I do not use any works of fiction when I worship or study. I don't pray to JK Rowling, CS Lewis, Tolkien, or any author of popular fiction. In no way does any work of fiction shape my view of Christ.

I trust my life eternal in the hands of our Christ, Jesus.

JK Rowling, wrote some entertaining children's books about a kid named Harry Potter.

 

[Zecryphon]

1. I showed how there is no such "magic" in the Harry Potter books.
2. It has yet been proven of any blood-drinking in the books either, or do you just accept people at their word when they haven't given proof and reject the testimony of those like itisdeliciouscake or myself who have read the books and tell you otherwise? Who do you believe?
3. Your PS is a Straw Man since no one has suggested as such.

Well the OP did mention the Twilight books too, so I'm guessing that's where the whole objection to drinking blood comes from.

 

[PaladinValer]

Well the OP did mention the Twilight books too, so I'm guessing that's where the whole objection to drinking blood comes from.

Upon rereading, this is true.

Still, in terms of drinking blood, I daresay you've covered the one exception to the rule well enough.

 

[princess_ballet]

Waving a stick around a chanting latin words is not witchcraft. Get with the program.

 

[2thePoint]

1. I showed how there is no such "magic" in the Harry Potter books.
2. It has yet been proven of any blood-drinking in the books either, or do you just accept people at their word when they haven't given proof and reject the testimony of those like itisdeliciouscake or myself who have read the books and tell you otherwise? Who do you believe?
3. Your PS is a Straw Man since no one has suggested as such.

1. I didn't specify the type of magic. And if there's no magic of any kind in the Potter books, why do people defend it?

2. People are defending blood drinking right here in this thread, so again, why do they do that if it isn't anywhere in the Potter books?

3. It was indeed "suggested" in one of the comments.

 

[2thePoint]

I do not use any works of fiction when I worship or study. I don't pray to JK Rowling, CS Lewis, Tolkien, or any author of popular fiction. In no way does any work of fiction shape my view of Christ.

I trust my life eternal in the hands of our Christ, Jesus.

JK Rowling, wrote some entertaining children's books about a kid named Harry Potter.

Straw man and false analogy. The point I was making is that fantasizing about things that grate against the character and purity of NT teachings can't be excused because "it's all in good fun". Does the heart matter or not? Do we renew our minds or not? Can we think or do anything at all in the name of fun and entertainment?

Anyway, I just offered my perspective and hope that each of us will continue striving to be filled with the Spirit and be sensitive to anything that might grieve him.

 

[Amber the Duskbringer]

ITT Attacks on pro literacy.

 

[PaladinValer]

1. I didn't specify the type of magic. And if there's no magic of any kind in the Potter books, why do people defend it?

1. That's the point I'm making; the Holy Bible condemns religious magic.
2. I didn't say there wasn't any magic, just not the kind of magic you think it does contain.

2. People are defending blood drinking right here in this thread, so again, why do they do that if it isn't anywhere in the Potter books?

That's poor logic. Just because people are defending the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist doesn't mean their belief in it is based on the books.
Zecryphon based it on THE HOLY BIBLE if you actually read the post. Not on the Potter books. Therefore, your logic here is flawed and void.

3. It was indeed "suggested" in one of the comments.

Nope. No poster has actually said that they aren't filled spiritually from the Holy Bible or a commentary on it or another Christian theological work.

 

[freezerman2000]

Straw man and false analogy. The point I was making is that fantasizing about things that grate against the character and purity of NT teachings can't be excused because "it's all in good fun". Does the heart matter or not? Do we renew our minds or not? Can we think or do anything at all in the name of fun and entertainment?

Anyway, I just offered my perspective and hope that each of us will continue striving to be filled with the Spirit and be sensitive to anything that might grieve him.

I notice that your avatar is R2D2..are you a Star Wars fan?..
The Jedis practice witchcraft too.(mind control,levitating objects,and other such wonders)...It is the same analogy to Harry Potter.
Both the Jedis and HP are on the side of good fighting evil and corruption.

To slam HP and be a fan of SW is having a double standard.

 

[Zecryphon]

1. I didn't specify the type of magic. And if there's no magic of any kind in the Potter books, why do people defend it?

2. People are defending blood drinking right here in this thread, so again, why do they do that if it isn't anywhere in the Potter books?

3. It was indeed "suggested" in one of the comments.

The OP is attacking the HP books without any real knowledge, it would seem so far, of what real witchcraft is. So it's his attack on HP that is being taken apart, no one is actually defending the practice of witchcraft from what I've seen so far.

The OP is saying that if Harry were real, he would go to hell. Well if Harry was real, why wouldn't the OP witness to Harry about the Gospel of Christ? That seems rather odd. Yes I have quoted Jesus' own statement about drinking His blood as that gives life, not drinking the blood of animals as that is forbidden elsewhere in Scripture.

 

[PaladinValer]

I notice that your avatar is R2D2..are you a Star Wars fan?..
The Jedis practice witchcraft too.(mind control,levitating objects,and other such wonders)...It is the same analogy to Harry Potter.
Both the Jedis and HP are on the side of good fighting evil and corruption.

To slam HP and be a fan of SW is having a double standard.

Not only that, but in the Star Wars universe, the Force is basically a religion and is called as much.

Therefore, it is closer to what is condemned in the Holy Writ than anything in the Harry Potter books.

Indeed, it is quite the double standard!

 

[Kristos]

‪Harry Potter is an enemy of God - Jesus Camp‬‏ - YouTube

Can I get an Amen?http://youtu.be/eERDW1d5joQ

 

[Yab Yum]

Cave men don't exist Fire is also a tool from Satan to keep us thinking we need to use it's sorcery to keep us warm

LOL right.

 

[Speculative]

Don't listen to the OP. He's been imperioused.

 

[Ishraqiyun]

So if an actor in a movie does something that in the real world would be wrong that means we shouldn't watch it. What about the Passion of Christ ? It has people doing evil things.

I've heard that real witches play quidditch and fly around the in the air like that.

 

[Zecryphon]

So if an actor in a movie does something that in the real world would be wrong that means we shouldn't watch it. What about the Passion of Christ ? It has people doing evil things.

I've heard that real witches play quidditch and fly around the in the air like that.

Not only that, but they also ride vacuum cleaners and have talking black cats as seen in the television show "Sabrina: The Teenage Witch."

 

[abysmul]

I said:

I do not use any works of fiction when I worship or study. I don't pray to JK Rowling, CS Lewis, Tolkien, or any author of popular fiction. In no way does any work of fiction shape my view of Christ.

I trust my life eternal in the hands of our Christ, Jesus.

JK Rowling, wrote some entertaining children's books about a kid named Harry Potter.

Straw man and false analogy. The point I was making is that fantasizing about things that grate against the character and purity of NT teachings can't be excused because "it's all in good fun". Does the heart matter or not? Do we renew our minds or not? Can we think or do anything at all in the name of fun and entertainment?

Anyway, I just offered my perspective and hope that each of us will continue striving to be filled with the Spirit and be sensitive to anything that might grieve him.

No straw man there. No false analogy. I don't use fiction in worship. I trust in Christ. JK Rowling is a children's book author. All fact.

As a parent, I'm responsible for the health, safety, welfare, and education of my child. Of course I'd remove the HP books from my daughter if I saw some satanic influence on her. She's 14, she'd laugh at you if you insinuated that somehow reading a HP book was somehow allowing Satan in her heart.

My faith is stronger than that. If someone's faith is so frail that they feel that reading a fiction children's book would hurt their relationship with Christ, well then that's their choice.

 

[Amber the Duskbringer]

‪Harry Potter is an enemy of God - Jesus Camp‬‏ - YouTube

Can I get an Amen?

Thanks for the laugh, needed that

 

[pgp_protector]

One of the good things about this being the last HP movie, is that the HP is Ebil threads will soon hopefully stop.

 

[itisdeliciouscake]

Don't listen to the OP. He's been imperioused.

I lol'd