If common appearance = common DNA

[AV1611VET]

-_- AV doesn't believe that an afterlife will happen just because he believes in it, don't be silly. Very few theists or atheists are so self-centered and stupid as to think their personal beliefs actually influence whether or not there is an afterlife of any sort.

Jordan Mays = consol

 

[Jordan Mays]

That's why God is not going to accept any bologna scientific reasoning behind why someone didn't get saved before he died.
Everything from I NEVER KNEW YOU to I NEVER SAW ANY EVIDENCE FOR YOU is going out the door.
Even I THOUGHT ABOUT GETTING SAVED UNTIL I STARTED READING AV1611'S POSTS isn't going to cut it.

Have you ever thought about this? what if there is a God and he is trying to weed out the gullible who are prepared to believe something without any evidence what so ever and only take into heaven the people who think for themselves?

 

[Jordan Mays]

Jordan Mays = consol

I'm not but what if I was? does consol ask you soul searching questions? does he make you think about things you would rather not think about?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Jordan Mays = consol

Gosh darn it, he just can't stay away, can he?

 

[AV1611VET]

Have you ever thought about this? what if there is a God and he is trying to weed out the gullible who are prepared to believe something without any evidence what so ever and only take into heaven the people who think for themselves?

You mean like Satan?

Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm not ...

Sure you're not.

And I'm Genghis Khan.

 

[Jordan Mays]

1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Words in a book can not change what nature has ordained will happen when we die.

 

[AV1611VET]

Gosh darn it, he just can't stay away, can he?

You can't keep an arsonist from his matches.

 

[AV1611VET]

Words in a book can not change what nature has ordained will happen when we die.

That's why God is going to do it.

 

[Jordan Mays]

Sure you're not.

And I'm Genghis Khan.

I cannot prove a negative no matter how hard I try so I'm not going to try.

 

[Jordan Mays]

That's why God is going to do it.

Of course he is.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Words in a book can not change what nature has ordained will happen when we die.

Ugh, it is not the words that are the cause, but they are intended to be an account of events. The theory of evolution itself doesn't cause populations of species to change over time and generations, but is an explanation of the observation. That's kinda the gist of the bible, explaining supposed events, not causing them. Do I find the bible to be an accurate depiction of the past or a good predictor of the future? No, but at least I have some understanding of what the text tries to do.

 

[Jordan Mays]

You mean like Satan?

How do you know that Satan is not the good one? who does the most killing in the Bible? who keeps saying, love me or I will kill you? I don't think it's Satan.

 

[AV1611VET]

I cannot prove a negative no matter how hard I try ...

Science is myopic.

 

[Doveaman]

I would say this: any person has the capacity, at least at some point in their life, to convert to Christianity if they are exposed to the religion. However, that capacity measurably decreases as we get older, making the easiest converts children. Hence why I can try to convert for almost 9 years now and still not believe, but a 5 year old child could be a believer.

This might be hard to believe, but adults are more easily deceived than children.

That's the reason why Jesus said this:

"I tell you the truth, unless you are converted and become like little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven." -- (Matt 18:3).

 

[PsychoSarah]

I cannot prove a negative no matter how hard I try so I'm not going to try.

There are some negatives you can prove. Heck, I can even prove AV isn't Genghis Khan in terms that even he would accept as proof.

Here I go: AV isn't Genghis Khan because that man has a recorded death in the year 1227. That's the bit of proof against the idea that he is Genghis Khan for you. For AV: you aren't Genghis Khan, because Genghis Khan was born in the year 1162. For you to have been born then, and still alive now would make you between 854-855 years old, and the bible put a limit on how old people could become after the flood (120 years). You yourself believe in this lifespan limit, so you can't defy it, and since Genghis Khan is not one of the listed survivors of Noah's flood, even if you claimed that the flood was fairly recent, Genghis Khan must have been born after it. Thus, biblically, you cannot be Genghis Khan, he has to be dead, and you are alive.

 

[Jordan Mays]

Ugh, it is not the words that are the cause, but they are intended to be an account of events. The theory of evolution itself doesn't cause populations of species to change over time and generations, but is an explanation of the observation. That's kinda the gist of the bible, explaining supposed events, not causing them. Do I find the bible to be an accurate depiction of the past or a good predictor of the future? No, but at least I have some understanding of what the text tries to do.

Words can only change minds not reality and death is the final arbiter no matter how much we wish it wasn't.

 

[PsychoSarah]

This might be hard to believe, but adults are more easily deceived than children.

That's the reason why Jesus said this:

"I tell you the truth, unless you are converted and become like little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven." -- (Matt 18:3).

-_- how many adults believe in Santa Claus compared to children? If you are arguing that adults are easier to spiritually deceive than children, I would have to disagree, since it is just as easy to convert a child to Hinduism as it is Christianity. What harder with adults is to get them to change, since people don't usually stay entirely undecided in terms of spirituality into adulthood.

 

[AV1611VET]

How do you know that Satan is not the good one?

I've heard enough from his disciples that I think I can ascertain who is the good one.

And even if I didn't hear anything, the Bible says it, that settles it.

who does the most killing in the Bible?

In the Bible, God does.

In this dispensation, abortionists do.

who keeps saying, love me or I will kill you?

I give up ... who?

I don't think it's Satan.

I hope not, or you'd hearing voices from him!

 

[Jordan Mays]

That's the reason why Jesus said this:
"I tell you the truth, unless you are converted and become like little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven." -- (Matt 18:3).

It's exactly what a con man would say and when did Jesus write that passage in the Bible?