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Nope, just the vaccine booster, and flu shot. 87% of the people in the ICU with covid have not been vaccinated. If I do get a breakthrough, I want the best chance to do the least damage. Some people end up with permanent respiratory damage.Maybe a nice sugar placebo pill too?
They say tens of millions will die of starvation as a result of the lockdowns and etc.
Many people died in old age homes unable to visit loved ones.
We don't know how many died from covid the system for stats is a joke. Nor has any alternative treatments been made available or even allowed. Should those who died because they were not allowed those treatments be weighed in on your death scale?
With the known and observed decreasing effectiveness of the vaccines and the changing variants, the idea that vaccines designed for covid 19 may be outdated one day is elementary logic.
I see no difference in whether it was the third, fourth or seventy fifth shot myself. Just more of the same mystery substances injected experimentally into people.
At least people could read the ingredients -snake oil- whereas there are all sorts of things in these abortion based research related concoctions that may not be known.
Guess it depends what news we chose to believe and use.Nope, just the vaccine booster, and flu shot. 87% of the people in the ICU with covid have not been vaccinated. If I do get a breakthrough, I want the best chance to do the least damage. Some people end up with permanent respiratory damage.
I grabbed a few links for you..Hi @power1
'They' being 'who'? We're now some 1.5 years into it, have tens of millions died of starvation over that period more than those who die of starvation in normal years? Any evidence, such an ugly word, to support that claim that 'they' have made?
Prove that the deaths were not just deaths that also happened to have covid listed as a possible contributing factor?Yes, that is sad, but true.
All of that argument is just noise. We do know, pretty well, how many people have died from covid.
No question about it the stats are a fraud. In addition there are no good stats on deaths from the vaccine.This idea that the stats have somehow been manipulated has about as much evidence as Trump's claim that the last election was rampant with fraud. Yes, there were a few notable cases where counts were questionable, but again, nothing of any major import to the totality of death from the illness.
Except, of course it is absolutely true. Again more links for you. Funny that some people don't seem to look for both sides of the story.That just is not a true statement. The vaccines have proven very, very effective in what they were intended to do.
Then list them?There's really no mystery to it. It's easy to find out 'what' any vaccine is made of, as far as it's components. It may be a mystery to you, because you're not particularly interested in really finding out what's in the vaccines, but it can be known.
The lockdowns, masks and mandatory vaccines are the kool air. By the way, if vaccines were so effective as promised, why the endless boosters?You really have taken the Kool-Aid, haven't you.
there are two different view points to this like antibiotics our bodies will get use to taking the VAXes so much so we will have no immune system to combat Covid,
yet if we dont have the VAXes we are more likely to get sicker and that more people are in the hospitals
also VAXes aren't 100 % PROOF you are not going to have covid ever again
in some ways it like the flu there are variants because viruses change all the time some being milder or some being stronger cannot always tell what is going to happen every time you take a Vax or any other jab there is risk in either way
but it has to get to a point where enough is enough Lockdowns on lockdowns are only going to make matter worse economical and personal their is no Win Win in this That why trusting Jesus and that doing that whether or not you take the VAXes there are real risk involved
Guess it depends what news we chose to believe and use.
Other sources seem to indicate the panic is wrong.
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Most people admitted to hospital with Covid-19 are vaccinated
21 October 2021
What was claimed
About 80-90% of those hospitalised with Covid-19 are unvaccinated.
Our verdict
This used to be true. The figure now is more like 35%.
Most people admitted to hospital with Covid-19 are vaccinated - Full Fact
"Figures from the health minister show 60% of patients in Flemish ICUs are fully vaccinated, 40% are unvaccinated.”
70% of hospitalised Covid patients are vaccinated, but the vaccines are working
Considering the new variant is less severe and there is much less hospitalization, and that millions of people are said to have been injured or killed by the vaccines, you can understand why there is no trust.
WHere do you get your "information" from? Do you look for sources that agree with how you already feel or do you look for objective sources?Guess it depends what news we chose to believe and use.
Other sources seem to indicate the panic is wrong.
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Most people admitted to hospital with Covid-19 are vaccinated
21 October 2021
What was claimed
About 80-90% of those hospitalised with Covid-19 are unvaccinated.
Our verdict
This used to be true. The figure now is more like 35%.
Most people admitted to hospital with Covid-19 are vaccinated - Full Fact
"Figures from the health minister show 60% of patients in Flemish ICUs are fully vaccinated, 40% are unvaccinated.”
70% of hospitalised Covid patients are vaccinated, but the vaccines are working
Considering the new variant is less severe and there is much less hospitalization, and that millions of people are said to have been injured or killed by the vaccines, you can understand why there is no trust.
Nope, just the vaccine booster, and flu shot. 87% of the people in the ICU with covid have not been vaccinated. If I do get a breakthrough, I want the best chance to do the least damage. Some people end up with permanent respiratory damage.
I won't dispute that.Billions are now hoodwinked by this snake oil scam.
Again, $$$$$$$$$$
well two things, age group is important, the first to be vaccinated are those that are the highest risk to die.
Not in stats I have seen in some places. Also the ever changing variants may change everything anyhow.Second of all, you have around 90% of the population that is vaccinated, yet they only take up 65% of the hospitalizations. it's still not prefect, but does show vaccines help.
The first of many you hope?
My sister couldn't have knee surgery because of the staff being diverted for covid treatment. Some people can't get in for more serious surgeries either.Most places it is 97 percent unvaccinated are taking up the ICU unnecessarily, for those who can take the shot and refuse they don't care and are very selfish.
Guess it depends what news we chose to believe and use.
As the WHO states, it's because countries focusing on providing booster shots are
diverting resources away from countries that have yet to get the first vaccination shot.
So it's not the booster that doesn't work, but the logistics behind providing the vaccination
to poorer nations.
Well, if the effectiveness is declining, then even if they did get them, it would be of limited use. That is why all the booster shots. Then there are the numbers of dead and injured from the vaccines. The article I think I linked showed that a doctor assumed something like five million people, and other sources say it is MUCH higher than that did get killed or injured from the shots. (The CDC count was 1 millions but was at least, the doc said 5 times too low. So even with boosters people can get the virus and variants. When much of the world will still have it, that seems to mean they are basically wasting money and time by getting it while ignoring the rest of the world. No?As the WHO states, it's because countries focusing on providing booster shots are
diverting resources away from countries that have yet to get the first vaccination shot.
So it's not the booster that doesn't work, but the logistics behind providing the vaccination
to poorer nations.
So that renders it all fairly useless then.Right, that's exactly what it means. IN fact, the poorer countries need to be both vaccinated and boosted...we're just out of sync that's all.
I might ask you the same. Should we go with only what twitter does not censor? Let's face it there are wildly different sources out there. CNN and the mainstream news have been shown to be pathetically bias and worthless as far as I am concerned.Really? What news source are you believing and using?
Yet the opposite seems true in other places. Why is that? Perhaps the stats in some places are better than others.Most places it is 97 percent unvaccinated are taking up the ICU unnecessarily, for those who can take the shot and refuse they don't care and are very selfish.
The first step is to reject mainstream media. The we can start getting objective and hearing from experts that warn about the situation.WHere do you get your "information" from? Do you look for sources that agree with how you already feel or do you look for objective sources?
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