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Do you not regard sex as a loving act?
That's rather a depressing point of view. I mean, sex is at best an expression of love, one person for another. And whilst love can certainly exist happily between two people without the act of sex taking place, I think that sex without love would be unbearable.
Just MO.
David.
If it is not an act that you would want 3 and four year old engaging in, and they need LOTS of loving, then the answer would be that there must be perameters to that act. The real love I see is where two people are having sex with the mutual desire to have a baby (and babies are an embodiment of LOVE).
What one is expressing in the act, unless connected with trying to build a family, is corrupted with lust.
Hey, guess what? There are different kinds of love.
And some kinds are to be desired above others.
Otherwise, sex is a selfish act unless done entirely for the mate's enjoyment. In such a case though, that act would likely be done to keep the mate (or win one) and then results in being done for selfish reasoning anyway.Do you really think so? Why?
But when two individuals want to share having a baby, they are united in family building. They are not simply addressing their own concerns/desires, but that of a third party who is yet to materialize and is sought after.
Committed, romantic love is not to be desired?
Can I ask, how is making love with your committed partner any different from cooking a delicious meal together? Each act is mutually satisfying. Each is an expression of love, despite part of its pleasure being sensual. And each is, I suppose, "corrupted by lust", in the sense that it is partially about desiring sensual pleasure and wishing to see one's partner enjoying that pleasure also.
The poor creature didn't ask to be conceived. How selfish to bring it into the world regardless.
The welfare of others is to be desired. It is when one does that there comes inner joy, fulfillment and purpose.
Without GOD nothing can be conceived. GOD is not selfish. He knows whosoever will.
You didn't answer the question. What's the difference, ethically speaking, between loving sex between a committed couple, and the same couple cooking and enjoying a delicious meal together?
Don't such gestures do good by strengthening their relationship?
The Christian god exhibits the ultimate in selfishness. He created an entire planet full of lifeforms to worship and glorify himself. if these creations don't kowtow to his universe sized ego they are thrown into a pit to be tortured for eternity.
Sounds pretty selfish to me.
Perfect GOD cannot tolerate imperfection. Imperfection is what we became as the result of Adam's choice ----- not GOD's
Loving sex between a married couple maybe sealed by GOD with a baby. Sex of same sex partners will never be so sealed. BIG DIFFERENCE! One doesn't need to have sex to establish a friendship.
But since your god is supposed to be omnipotent, and he created this Adam chap, then he knew full well what Adam's choice would be before Adam made it. Thus he is the one responsible.
You can't claim your god as the ultimate power, and then try to remove his responsibility for the very things he supposedly created. Unless you are saying your god is a hypocrite.
So according to this logic, my aunt and uncle(both Methodist) who have been married for nearly 40 years and have no children, do not have a valid marriage?
Nice dodge, you completely failed to address my point. But since you don't deny any of it, and even claim its all gods plan, that is pretty much the same as admitting the ugly truth behind my assertion.GOD is the one with a plan----which is more than I can say for those with excuses for their failure to embrace GOD's plan...
Loving sex between a married couple maybe sealed by GOD with a baby. Sex of same sex partners will never be so sealed. BIG DIFFERENCE! One doesn't need to have sex to establish a friendship.
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