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None of the people in the photos your posted look Syrian. The people in your photos look like Turks and Chechens. Please stop posting Islamist propaganda.
I'll bite. What does a Syrian look like?
 
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A Syrian looks like an Arab.

You have to be careful. Alexander's men got around a lot on their empire tour. Had a group of Iraqi contractors come and do some work on the FOB ten years back. I thought two of them were European or American. Spoke to them and they were born in Iraq. Lighter hair and green eyes.
 
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Is anyone concerned about a power vacuum if/when Assad gets removed? if one of the radical rebel groups takes over, then all of the minority groups in Syria are in danger.

Sunni Arabs tend to be socially tribal people, with diversified sub-groups like al-queda, ISIS, etc., alway being in constant quarrels. The only thing they're unified in is in hate- including that of Shia's.
 
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These people make me so proud. Their spirit & resistance cannot be broken:

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Street protests erupted across insurgent-held areas of Syria on Friday, as demonstrators took advantage of the relative lull in airstrikes during a partial truce, coming out in the largest numbers in years to declare that even after five punishing years of war they still wanted political change...The protests were all the more surprising in that the insurgency is struggling militarily, squeezed between pro-government forces and those of the Islamic State.
Syrian Protesters Take to Streets as Airstrikes Ease

"People are so, so happy. There was crying, there was joy, but there was also a lump in people's throats," Mr Abu Nuh said. "There were a lot of young guys that used to protest with us who weren't there today because they've been killed."
Syria truce: Civilians use ceasefire to resume anti-government protests in Aleppo, Damascus
Syrians use truce to resume Friday protests

For a Day, Syria’s Cease-Fire Revives Peaceful Protest

104 protests this past Friday:
 
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These people make me so proud. Their spirit & resistance cannot be broken:

(link to video)

Street protests erupted across insurgent-held areas of Syria on Friday, as demonstrators took advantage of the relative lull in airstrikes during a partial truce, coming out in the largest numbers in years to declare that even after five punishing years of war they still wanted political change...The protests were all the more surprising in that the insurgency is struggling militarily, squeezed between pro-government forces and those of the Islamic State.
Syrian Protesters Take to Streets as Airstrikes Ease

"People are so, so happy. There was crying, there was joy, but there was also a lump in people's throats," Mr Abu Nuh said. "There were a lot of young guys that used to protest with us who weren't there today because they've been killed."
Syria truce: Civilians use ceasefire to resume anti-government protests in Aleppo, Damascus
Syrians use truce to resume Friday protests

For a Day, Syria’s Cease-Fire Revives Peaceful Protest

104 protests this past Friday:

I'm glad to see men fighting for their families and homes.
 
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The rebels are advancing in south Aleppo (someone observed that the regime was relentlessly pounding Aleppo, but once the rebels gained territory, they talked about renewing the ceasefire that was never really in effect). I'll post about the advances later, God-willing.
This post has to do with Syrian refugees arriving in Canada (a country showing the world how it's done).

Well done, Canada. I'm genuinely impressed by your hospitality.

“It’s not easy to lose everything. We can understand them more than anyone in Canada. We were in the same situation,” said Khanchet, who lives in Calgary.

“Me and my family wanted to do something for these people. Canadian society helped us when we came to Canada.”

“All the Syrians are saying, ‘I’m ready to give, I’m ready to give,’ ” said Saima Jamal, a co-founder of the Syrian Refugee Support Group.

“It’s amazing. You have to understand how little these guys have . . . But they understand the idea of an entire city losing their home. That’s something they can easily relate to. They went through that.”


'We understand what they're feeling': Syrian refugees in Calgary step up to help Fort McMurray fire evacuees

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The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “He has not thanked Allah who has not thanked people.” [Sunan Abu Dawood]
 
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Is anyone concerned about a power vacuum if/when Assad gets removed? if one of the radical rebel groups takes over, then all of the minority groups in Syria are in danger.

Oh, please... nobody worried about that when we removed Saddam, and everything....worked.... out.... peachy....

...ok, you might have a point there...
 
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The happiest news I've heard in awhile. The regime has been hitting Idlib with chemical weapons for the past week and now the city is under rebel control (and I pray it remains that way).

The "Fattah Army" coalition - including the al-Nusra Front, Jund al-Aqsa, Jaish al-Sunna, Liwa al-Haqq, Ajnad al-Sham, and Faynad al-Sham - seized Idlib city on Saturday after more than five days of fierce fighting.

Syrian rebels capture Idlib city in joint offensive - Al Jazeera English

The link also mentions that the rebels had captured another city, Busra Sham, earlier this week.

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They're defacing the statue of Hafez al-Assad, the genocidal father of the current genocidal dictator.

These "rebel groups", in particular al-nusra, are al-qaida related groups. These people are brutal radical extremists who wish to install a brutal form of shariah and who carry out suicide terrorist attacks.

You should be ashamed of supporting these barbarian thugs.
 
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Just because I don't know doesn't mean they also don't. They are obviously fighting for something otherwise they would not still be here 4 years later.

Wouldn't it be a good idea to try and find out first, before cheering for them?
Since you yourself admit that you don't know what their plans are, it seems to me that you are cheering "blind". You are cheering for them, but you don't actually know what you are cheering for....

This sounds rather stupid, tbh.
 
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Not very well so long as the regime and its elements are still in power. But it's just a matter of time before it falls, God-willing.

Pardon my ignorance, but what happens after that?

Before you usurp a tyrant, make sure you have a deal with his successor...
 
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These "rebel groups", in particular al-nusra, are al-qaida related groups. These people are brutal radical extremists who wish to install a brutal form of shariah and who carry out suicide terrorist attacks.

You should be ashamed of supporting these barbarian thugs.

You think it is the rebel groups who are brutal radical extremists? Read this and weep:

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^That is the documented civilian casualties (there have been massacres perpetrated by the regime in areas where entry was prohibited by the regime and the rebels weren't in control).

"A seventeen-year-old boy stood in line behind Hamada and Fahad. When the guards learned that he was from Darayya, the suburb of Damascus, they knocked him to the ground. One fetched a welding torch and burned the boy “from here to here,” Hamada said, tracing a finger along his jawline. “And then he turned him around and he burned his neck and his entire back. . . . His face—I mean, it was fire. It was melting.”

Recalling the event, Hamada’s eyes grew damp and red. His voice faltered, and he sobbed desperately. For two days, he and other prisoners in the hangar tried to soothe the boy’s injuries as he was dying. When the guards came to retrieve the corpse, Hamada yelled at them. In response, they hung him by his wrists for several hours."


The Assad Files - Capturing the top-secret documents that tie the Syrian regime to mass torture and killings.

"In November 2011, barely a month after organised armed resistance had broken out, the UN reported that among the tactics the regime was using to suppress the uprising was raping male children in front of their families. Later the regime would cause female captives to bleed to death by inserting rats into their vaginas.

IS burned a pilot alive in a cage; the Iranian-run sectarian militia, the National Defence Force, which has eclipsed the national army, burns whole families alive in their homes. And that is before the regime's methods of warfare - indiscriminate artillery fire, barrel bombs, and air strikes to destroy ancient cities, and chemical weapons of mass destruction and chlorine-laced incendiaries to intimidate - aimed at mass-killing and the displacement of survivors is factored in."


How Western academics help spread Assad's propaganda

Wouldn't it be a good idea to try and find out first, before cheering for them?
Since you yourself admit that you don't know what their plans are, it seems to me that you are cheering "blind". You are cheering for them, but you don't actually know what you are cheering for....

This sounds rather stupid, tbh.

I am cheering for what the majority of the local Syrians are cheering for: the removal of the regime and the prevention of ISIS taking over. They are fighting for their freedom from that genocidal dictator and his allies.
 
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You think it is the rebel groups who are brutal radical extremists?
No amount of crimes committed by the Assad regime will convince me that many of the rebels are not brutal radical extremists. The pink row in your diagram is larger even than that of ISIS or Russia. These are not people to cheer.
 
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Pardon my ignorance, but what happens after that?

Before you usurp a tyrant, make sure you have a deal with his successor...

Whatever happens after that certainly won't be as bad as what is happening right now (assuming all of the regime's elements and corruptions are weeded out), God-willing. His successor will be someone who the local population will choose/support instead of a puppet sectarian dictator such as the one installed in neighboring Iraq. We can observe who is the worst out of all the groups by seeing how they behave in warfare.
 
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No amount of crimes committed by the Assad regime will convince me that many of the rebels are not brutal radical extremists. The pink row in your diagram is larger even than that of ISIS or Russia. These are not people to cheer.

Russia officially joined in September/October though I'd argue they are complicit in many of the regime-caused civilian casualties due to them providing weapons since much earlier. ISIS is one group. On the other hand, the rebels are comprised of hundreds of groups with no central command or leader and they have been in play since 2011. I don't know what exactly makes 'many' of them brutal radical extremists.

You say they are not people to cheer, but the majority of people living on the ground in Syria and experiencing their reality disagree. When the rebels liberate their areas, they cheer and shower them with hugs and kisses despite knowing that the regime will retaliate and drop barrel bombs on them.
 
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Russia officially joined in October though I'd argue they are complicit in many of the regime-caused civilian casualties due to them providing weapons since much earlier. ISIS is one group. On the other hand, the rebels are comprised of hundreds of groups with no central command or leader and they have been in play since 2011. I don't know what exactly makes 'many' of them brutal radical extremists.

You say they are not people to cheer, but the majority of people living on the ground in Syria and experiencing their reality disagree. When the rebels liberate their areas, they cheer and shower them with hugs and kisses despite knowing that the regime will retaliate and drop barrel bombs on them.
Like Poles cheering the arrival of the Red Army, and the end of the Nazi occupation? Desperate people can be forgiven for losing some perspective.

Whatever happens after that certainly won't be as bad as what is happening right now (assuming all of the regime's elements and corruptions are weeded out). His successor will be someone who the local population will choose/support instead of a puppet sectarian dictator such as the one installed in neighboring Iraq. We can observe who is the worst out of all the groups by seeing how they behave in warfare.
I don't know where your optimism comes from. And let's not pretend the population of Iraq did not choose their government, albeit one under the thumb of Tehran. If we ever do reach the point of free and fair elections in Syria, the winning candidate is likely to be propped up by the Gulf, and a 'puppet sectarian dictator' - though Sunni rather than Shia - to just the same extent as Malaki was.
 
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Like Poles cheering the arrival of the Red Army, and the end of the Nazi occupation? Desperate people can be forgiven for losing some perspective.

They didn't lose perspective. It was having perspective that allowed them to cheer for the rebels over the regime. It is their perspective that matters in the end, not other observers. It's been more than a year since Idlib was liberated and most of their protests remain against the regime though they have had issues here and there with the rebels (nothing so serious as to want the regime back), just like all citizens do with their governments. I doubt that any of them would prefer the regime over any of the rebel groups.

I don't know where your optimism comes from. And let's not pretend the population of Iraq did not choose their government, albeit one under the thumb of Tehran. If we ever do reach the point of free and fair elections in Syria, the winning candidate is likely to be propped up by the Gulf, and a 'puppet sectarian dictator' - though Sunni rather than Shia - to just the same extent as Malaki was.

It comes from my religion and God's promises for shaam (Greater Syria). It also comes from the fact that the majority of Syrians still oppose Assad despite his brutal campaign of killing civilians (i.e. they haven't bowed down to his ruthlessness even if it means they will continue to die until they achieve freedom). How can I not be optimistic when it comes to people like that?

As for the elections, I have faith that a people who fought so hard against a genocidal dictator and generally did not commit similar war crimes as him, particularly against civilians of the groups they're fighting against (like the Iraqi Shi'a militias did and continue to do in Iraq (and Syria)), will not install the Sunni equivalent of Maliki.
 
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Whatever happens after that certainly won't be as bad as what is happening right now (assuming all of the regime's elements and corruptions are weeded out), God-willing.

Two things:

1: About that bolded part -- yeah... never say that! People who like to say things along the line of "it can't possibly get any worse" often find to their horror one of the many ways that oh, yes, it most certainly can.

2: "assuming all of the regime's elements..." -- yeah... one can only hope. But even if it were somehow possible to purge (how?) all the corrupt elements of the old system, how best to insure that it doesn't happen again... perhaps immediately?

His successor will be someone who the local population will choose/support instead of a puppet sectarian dictator such as the one installed in neighboring Iraq. We can observe who is the worst out of all the groups by seeing how they behave in warfare.

I hope you're right about that...but those who seize power rarely if ever relinquish it without a few guarantees...
 
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