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Discussion in 'Physical & Life Sciences' started by Deaver, Jul 11, 2011.

  1. Lillen

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    My interpretation of the facts cause me to believe that we go extinct rather then evolving.

    A majority of fossils prove this point!
     
  2. Belk

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  3. Non sequitur

    Non sequitur Wokest Bae Of The Forum

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    Don't forget replacing science and the Christian God.

    FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN SUMMARY

    "...reverse the stifling materialist world view and replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions"


    Also, don't forget about Phillip Johnson the:

    - Born-again Christian
    - Person considered the father of the intelligent design movement
    - Co-founder of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture
    - Person who established the wedge strategy

    "This isn't really, and never has been a debate about science. Its about religion and philosophy."
     
  4. Lillen

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    How can it be false? Most animals according to the facts are extinct! In majority of those evolving!
     
  5. Non sequitur

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    You present a situation in which only two alternatives are considered.
     
  6. Greg1234

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    This document is about philosophy in science. The philosophical side of intelligent design most closely resembles theistic convictions (in physical science however, Intelligent Design contends with Darwinism).

    Since we are dealing with philosophy here, when intelligent design replaces Darwinism it automatically replaces its philosophical baggage with a science more philosophically consonant with theistic convictions.
    This is correct. Methodological naturalism is more prominently displayed when its practical application is exhausted. This is seen in the case of man's origin.
     
  7. Non sequitur

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    Philosophy of science is about as useful to scientists as ornithology is to birds.
     
  8. Naraoia

    Naraoia Apprentice Biologist

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    Oh, I'd like to see that! Better yet, find a god outside the Abrahamic tradition. Ptah might do, he's a creator figure after all.

    Do you think he understood this?
     
  9. Wiccan_Child

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    No one disputes that, but no one understands why this is supposed to be a problem. How does extinction change the fact that species evolve?
     
  10. AV1611VET

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    It keeps them from evolving.
     
  11. Wiccan_Child

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    It stops that particular species from evolving, sure, but the species itself, when extant, still evolved, and other living species still evolve. Lillen seems to be saying that, because 99% of all species are now extinct, evolution can't be a particularly effective way for them to adapt.
     
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