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I wasnt gonna post anything just because of the constant insults and judging and "you dont want help" assumptions and people calling me a whiner...but here it goes.

My dad's coming. I'm not gonna share the whole story here because it will just open up more judging oppurtunities but I DONT want to see him. My mom has been on the "you should see him" trip for a while and now she has been saying that he's coming. I dont know when, she wont tell me because she knows I'll leave until he's gone. I dont get along with my mom at all, never have. and cant really talk to her about it.

there's been a lot of crud in the past and now ...and the last thing that I want to do is have to see him. I have PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) and its only been getting worse and I go days without sleeping because of the nightmares etc.

I dont know what to do...I dont have a place to near me and since I dont know when he's coming I cant plan to do anything.

any advice? I know its not easy since you dont know the whole story.
 

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Is it getting any better yet?

If you can just quietly avoid him, can you do that? When/ if he comes over, can you just quietly leave?

It isn't good for your mom to push people on you, just try to ignore that, forgive her ignorance, and do your best to avoid him.

I am not saying run from problems, but if your parents will not confess their faults against you, and won't admit the past was abusive to you (this seems to be what you are hinting at), then it is best to forgive them quietly in your heart and leave them alone, until they are ready to dealt with it honestly. For me to do this, it took prayer and God's answer to prayer, and in reading and obeying Jesus in the New Testament- this changes my life every day. I've been in therapy and medication and even psychiatric ward for 2 days, those things and doctors didn't help me much, but God did, and His ways healed me. That's my testimony, and what I can offer, prayer and forgiveness, and try to peacefully avoid the ones who wronged you and won't get honest about it.
 
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Hard thing to deal with Seth. I can kind of understand because I had to deal with seeing my stepmom for years but I knew I had to forgive her, I eventually did because of God but it was a tough road. I dont have any real sound advice for you man.
 
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I dont know the story so I wont give advise, but no matter what happens, just be bigger man and take the high road. If he says or does anything, dont stoop down to his level. If you do want to talk about it, which it sounds like you do, you can PM me the story, and I can talk to you about it. I promise not to share with others or judge you.
 
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sethad said:
I wasnt gonna post anything just because of the constant insults and judging and "you dont want help" assumptions and people calling me a whiner...but here it goes.

My dad's coming. I'm not gonna share the whole story here because it will just open up more judging oppurtunities but I DONT want to see him. My mom has been on the "you should see him" trip for a while and now she has been saying that he's coming. I dont know when, she wont tell me because she knows I'll leave until he's gone. I dont get along with my mom at all, never have. and cant really talk to her about it.

there's been a lot of crud in the past and now ...and the last thing that I want to do is have to see him. I have PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) and its only been getting worse and I go days without sleeping because of the nightmares etc.

I dont know what to do...I dont have a place to near me and since I dont know when he's coming I cant plan to do anything.

any advice? I know its not easy since you dont know the whole story.

it's hard to give advise without knowing the full details. but the best i can for do for you is give my story here.

i haven't seen my dad in nearly 2 years now. since my parents divorce in 1991, him and i have had a turbulent relationship. bad things have happened between him and i, some that involved the cops, some that didn't. a lot of harsh words and all that stuff.

then something happened after our last fall out. i was tired of it. the straw that broke the camel's back. i was tired of yelling at my father, cussing at him, saying sarcastic, hurtful words. i was tired of all the anger. so basically i forced a timeout. and we're still in it. i cannot handle his judgmentalism, and i will not tolerate it period even if it means not talking/seeing him. it's nothing about forgiveness. i forgive him. but things change after so much negative constantly piles up. life changes after a certain point. and life goes on too.

i hope in time, we can see each other, and things be good. but right now, i'm keeping my distance. for my faith, for myself, for others around me. it's the best i can do now. it'll be temporary, but it's been like this for a good time now. and i'll be moving eventually, so life changes. i'll love him no matter what, but i guess finally i'm looking at this as personal survival, and doing what i have to do, because after nearly 15 years of a bad relationship with good parts here and there, you get fed up, and someone has to take action, and i was the one that did it. i dont' regret it by any means. i'm thankful for it. i miss him, i wish he was more in my life, but survival is survival.
 
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sethad said:
I wasnt gonna post anything just because of the constant insults and judging and "you dont want help" assumptions and people calling me a whiner...but here it goes.

My dad's coming. I'm not gonna share the whole story here because it will just open up more judging oppurtunities but I DONT want to see him. My mom has been on the "you should see him" trip for a while and now she has been saying that he's coming. I dont know when, she wont tell me because she knows I'll leave until he's gone. I dont get along with my mom at all, never have. and cant really talk to her about it.

there's been a lot of crud in the past and now ...and the last thing that I want to do is have to see him. I have PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) and its only been getting worse and I go days without sleeping because of the nightmares etc.

I dont know what to do...I dont have a place to near me and since I dont know when he's coming I cant plan to do anything.

any advice? I know its not easy since you dont know the whole story.

I recommend praying to the God of the Bible. He will help you get along with your father.
 
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I'm just gonna kinda answer everyone at once...

Ilovecartoons said:
I recommend praying to the God of the Bible. He will help you get along with your father.


I did pray. I have prayed. God never answered. and there's no way I'll ever get along with my dad. I dont want see him, I dont want to hear from him, I dont want to forgive him, nothing.

rocklife said:
If you can just quietly avoid him, can you do that? When/ if he comes over, can you just quietly leave?

I dont have a place I can go at short notice. so I'm kinda stuck. the most I could do is lock myself in my room until he leaves but I have no idea how long he's staying either.

tel0004 said:
I dont know the story so I wont give advise, but no matter what happens, just be bigger man and take the high road. If he says or does anything, dont stoop down to his level.

As much as I'd like to shoot him in the head..i know that's not a good idea. even if he does say anything bad I'll just walk away, and if he tries anything...eh...see what happens.

I havent seen my dad since I was 12, almost 13. he's been trying to write lame apology letters and "poor little me I'm in such bad shape now" letters but I dont take them seriously.
 
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Sethad maybe God didnt answer because he wants to put you in a position to forgive.
He wont forgive us unless we forgive others. Very strong words and I dont even like to read them sometimes ha ha. But that is what he says and that could be why your prayer was not answered.
 
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I assume he has done something bad to you in the past. Does he acknowledge and is he sorry for what he did?

If you dont want to see him. Then, as soon as he turns up, go stay with a mate until hes gone. If you dont have a mate you can impose on, then your life is screwed up in a number of ways. You could stay at a motel. Make sure you have your stuff packed so you can leave on short notice.
 
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anunbeliever said:
I assume he has done something bad to you in the past. Does he acknowledge and is he sorry for what he did?

If you dont want to see him. Then, as soon as he turns up, go stay with a mate until hes gone. If you dont have a mate you can impose on, then your life is screwed up in a number of ways. You could stay at a motel. Make sure you have your stuff packed so you can leave on short notice.

I dont have a car...so that doesnt work.

he's written lame apology and "feel sorry for me" letters but I dont take them seriously.
 
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you can forgive the past in your heart, that doesn't mean you have to be best buds after forgiveness. I forgave my dad, I ran away from home at 16 and didn't even try to get back with parents for 2 years, because I was fearful of being beaten up (those years were no picnic either, I have known homelessness and poverty, eating one tiny meal a day and no showers). I forgave all this past stuff, childhood hurts, personally I had to write them all down, then I forgave, and then I tore up the note into tiny unreadable pieces. I am not buddy-buddy with my dad though, even though I have truly forgiven him. I often do what I told you to do, be silent around him. He has also given me cards that offer apologies, I appreciate that, but once in a while he makes a rude comment, like calls me a wimp (and he means it to be hurtful). I forgive and move on, he often apologizes later again, but he didn't go around apologizing to me until years later sometimes, but I have already forgiven long ago, and all the jealousy and sadness I used to carry is gone, after I forgave him with the list, all those feelings went away, my uncontrolled crying when he was around went away too.

am praying for you continually
 
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Unfortunately I can only see 2 options. Leave so that you don't have to see him or stay and face him. You have made it clear that you can't leave and don't want to see him so I can't think of any suggestions. I wish you could go stay with someone, like a friend, but you said you can't so all I can say is hang in there. If there is no way for you to avoid seeing him, and it goes badly, maybe you two should decide that he shouldn't come see you again. It's tough, I'm sorry I can't be more help to you.
 
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anunbeliever said:
Bus, train, or on foot?

need a car to get to the bus or train station. going on foot wouldnt really work. i guess I could climb out a window and jump down and walk away but...then what? what if he's staying more then one day? dont have a friends house. and even motels arent that close. neither is a train or bus station.
 
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need a car to get to the bus or train station. going on foot wouldnt really work. i guess I could climb out a window and jump down and walk away but...then what? what if he's staying more then one day? dont have a friends house. and even motels arent that close. neither is a train or bus station.
well how about maybe you just stand your ground? stay at home, the home you live in. if you feel like you have to avoid him and not have conversation, then just be blunt with him and tell him we are not talking, go outside and do something for a little while, or go in your room and lock the door if you need to. that may be childish, but it's your way of standing your own ground.

or your other option is to talk to him. of course the choice is up to yours, but i dont' know what other option you have, because of your situation right now.
 
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tattedsaint said:
well how about maybe you just stand your ground? stay at home, the home you live in. if you feel like you have to avoid him and not have conversation, then just be blunt with him and tell him we are not talking, go outside and do something for a little while, or go in your room and lock the door if you need to. that may be childish, but it's your way of standing your own ground.

or your other option is to talk to him. of course the choice is up to yours, but i dont' know what other option you have, because of your situation right now.

I think that's what I'm gonna have to do.

its "home" in a sense but not really...but since there's no place else...its there for now. but not much longer.
 
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sethad said:
I think that's what I'm gonna have to do.

its "home" in a sense but not really...but since there's no place else...its there for now. but not much longer.

i was never lucky enough to have it in me to stand up to my dad, until a few years ago, probabl right around your age. and it's not me standing up in the sense of being rebellious, it's standing up to be treated right, and better, to be accepted period. and either have that, or we have nothing, which my first post, shows you what we have now. sure i've made mistakes tho in this along the way. i will never it's all my father's fault.

my best advise to you is, that you get it out. that you stand up for yourself for whatever the situation is. you don't want to let that bottle up inside of you. i let it bottle it up and in one moment my dad called me a worthless piece of sh** while moving a big screen tv and i tried to push it on him. and then hiding it inside of me, has totally tore me up, and made me very angry towards life in general. now i'm getting past it, and moving pretty quick past it now, because life seems beautiful even without him in it and that's a start, but a very good start. and then hiding it in, and then letting it come out, led me to really disrespect my father with my words. but the frustration of this goes a long way when you don't get it out, in a healthy manner, and set the facts straight. being bluntly honest, which doesn't mean screaming at each other, or swearing at each other, but just being bluntly honest, standing your ground, standing up for yourself, and not let the negative give you a negative self impression. it can do that big time if left undone. the low self-esteem that just naturally comes with it sucks. but even that as i'm getting older is going away, because reality is not that, and that's about all that matters to me.

it's hard standing up to a man that has done bad things and really caused emotional, and i dont 'knw oyour full storry but maybe even ph ysical harm on you. but i'll tell you what, when you stand up for yourself, it's freeing. when you show to that person that your not going to take negativity, and bad things with a smile or a brush off anymore, at least with my situation, i think my dad was shocked. i remember one of our arguemtns when i used to have my own apartment. he got upset about some bills that i had, which all it was, was a hospital bill. and he was going to give me money for a new computer but put it back in his pocket, which was fine, but it's what happened afterwards that set me off. we started arguing big time, the past brought up and arguments going on and on. and college days were brought back up and i threw all the bad things i went through in college, and basically i stood there, swearing up a storm, hands going everywhere, yelling at the top of my voice, and then let my own apartment with him tryign to get me calmed down, and trying to be civil after a huge outburst of me, and me not caring and just walked down to get me a pack of cigs and try to calm down. it was actually the 2nd time i walked away from him without looking back or feeling bad.

so i'm just sharing this with you to tell you, you deserve to stand up for yourself. you don't deserve any negative thing that has happened, or that is happening, and to stand up for yourself. just be smart about standing up for yourself. dont' be dumb about it. be respectful. something i realized quite a few years afterwards is that he is still my father, thus deserving respect. we can give blunt honesty with respect and honor. and many a times i didn't, and many a times dad didn't give it to me. i didn't see an example growing up because my dad has had an anger problem for various of reasons. pick and choose your battles. don't just go and getting hot about every little thing. that was something i learned the hard way as well. some things are worth defending about, and some things just aren't worth the time because of the implications the arguments give.

and you mentioned that you and your mother dont' get along as well. well if you do see and talk to him, i would try to do your best to be as civil as you can. maybe politely, but bluntly say to him if he brings stuff up to not talk about it right now, and repeat yourself if he keeps it up. because your in a situation where there are two people you haven't gotten along with in your life. why bring trouble upon yourself?

i hope any of this helps. i'm 23 turning 24 this year, a few years older than you which doesn't mean i know more or anything, it's just i've been through similiar things. and sadly enough it took some pretty big things to get a lot of this stuff past me. i'm glad i got to even this point. for now i have the ability of defending myself without fear to my father. to be a man to him, but also be a man in the sense of being respectful, and having decency to oneself. so i hope this helps, and if you don't mind, i'll keep you in prayers if you would like me 2. God Bless you! <><
 
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I dont think he deserves to be respected

I know I might have to face him eventually...maybe...was hoping I wouldnt. but seems like he's pretty intent on seeing me. I guess might as well get it over with. but after that...I dont want to see him or hear from him again.
 
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talking things out honestly is good, but there is a point after that has been done, the fights and arguements just repeat themselves. if you really just don't want to talk with him now, don't talk with him, if your dad doesn't want to respect the real you (treats you how he wants to treat you, not giving you real consideration). There are times for silence, Jesus was silent during His trial, also Martin Luther King Jr (also a christian minister) employed silent protests. God is often silent, as we all know I am sure.

It seems its been a while, is he even coming anymore? one thing that happened to my nephew all the time is his dad lies about visiting him, which is also very hurtful.

Even with our messed up parents, if we saw their childhood, and saw things from their perspectives, it may help, they may have been neglected, unloved, etc like so many others. But even if they are just rotten, we can respect them as a human, even if we have to agree to disagree with them about most everything.
 
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