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Scripture isn't this complicated, nor is its meaning so hidden that we need nearly incomprehensible flow charts to figure end times out. For those of us who are post-mil, we're in the 1000 year reign of Christ and he will return victorious at the appointed time. Very simple and easy to understand.To very active posters at this forum,
What I want to see from you, is not just your verbiage of your eschatology view. I want to see a timeline chart of the elements of your eschatology position.
What you should do is make a timeline chart of all your iterations, fitting everything you have been writing about and claiming, and putting it into a non-fragmented form of a timeline chart. To show how any of it makes sense.
Start a timeline chart.... and work on it, until the contradictions are ironed out. it will probably be an ongoing work in progress.
Here is mine....which most of you have seen over and over. You make yours - prove your views, interpretations, and claims, fit together to form the big picture.
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Even as erroneous it is, at least CG put his view on a timeline chart that a person can see what he believes and reasoning in a non-fragmented form.Christian Gedge has created a chart that supports what Baberean2 is saying here.......and i thought it's been shared numerous of times.
(Edited - this is CG's timeline chart)
To very active posters at this forum,
What I want to see from you, is not just your verbiage of your eschatology view. I want to see a timeline chart of the elements of your eschatology position.
What you should do is make a timeline chart of all your iterations, fitting everything you have been writing about and claiming, and putting it into a non-fragmented form of a timeline chart. To show how any of it makes sense.
Start a timeline chart.... and work on it, until the contradictions are ironed out. it will probably be an ongoing work in progress.
Here is mine....which most of you have seen over and over. You make yours - prove your views, interpretations, and claims, fit together to form the big picture.
View attachment 279325
You are computer savvy enough to make a post. So with a litte more effort you can learn how to use a a program like paint shop pro 2020. Just start playing around with it.Well I am not computer savvy enough to make a timeline- so you have to settle for me writing one out!
Well, you make one that works.Every timeline chart I have seen to date are filled with suppositions or outright mistakes because they neglected passages of SCripture that had a part in the end times.
There are not an "extra" 30 and then 45 days. In the first place, extra to what? Nevermind...Yours also is filled with inaccuracies! YOu have the sixth seal being opened and placed it under the 7th trumpet sounding- that is just plain wrong! And you do not understand the purposes of the extra 30 and then 45 days (the 1290 and 1335) they are post return timeframes!
Well.....claiming something is "erroneous" doesn't make it so.Even as erroneous it is, at least CG put his view on a timeline chart that a person can see what he believes and reasoning in a non-fragmented form.
no... it doesn't, I agree. I just didn't want to give the impression I agree with the chart.Well.....claiming something is "erroneous" doesn't make it so.
...and totally wrong. But that is not the point. You have no information is what you just wrote in essence, just an ambiguous statement from a bible prophecy standpoint.Scripture isn't this complicated, nor is its meaning so hidden that we need nearly incomprehensible flow charts to figure end times out. For those of us who are post-mil, we're in the 1000 year reign of Christ and he will return victorious at the appointed time. Very simple and easy to understand.
Using CG's timeline as a foundation....a person can then use Adam Maarschalk's chart to see more specifics, like this:Even as erroneous it is, at least CG put his view on a timeline chart that a person can see what he believes and reasoning in a non-fragmented form.
I would like to see some of the Revelation events on his above chart or a companion one.
Like Jesus's return, and the 42 months preceding, and the time, times, half time of Satan's short time left, those kind of things.
The chart is a visual from which a discussion can pursue. From that standpoint, the ideas and thinking of the chart maker are apparent at a glance. A big help than just a bunch of words in a narrative.Using CG's timeline as a foundation....a person can then use Adam Maarschalk's chart to see more specifics, like this:
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The Two Witnesses Killed by the Beast (Revelation 11:3-13)
To very active posters at this forum,
What I want to see from you, is not just your verbiage of your eschatology view. I want to see a timeline chart of the elements of your eschatology position.
What you should do is make a timeline chart of all your iterations, fitting everything you have been writing about and claiming, and putting it into a non-fragmented form of a timeline chart. To show how any of it makes sense.
Start a timeline chart.... and work on it, until the contradictions are ironed out. it will probably be an ongoing work in progress.
Here is mine....which most of you have seen over and over. You make yours - prove your views, interpretations, and claims, fit together to form the big picture.
View attachment 279325
maybe, most likely, but that is not what counts - what counts is determining that something is wrong and fixing it.The more details you incorporate into your "complete presentations", the higher the probability you got it wrong.
I am not saying eliminate summaries, nor narratives, nor any form of verbalizing, but add some timeline charts in the course of the discussions.Simple summaries are probably better, because nobody can figure out all details. There are thousands of prophetic texts in the Bible and almost all of them can be explained in various ways.
How can you determine that some detail is wrong? Prophecies are quite ambiguous most of time.maybe, most likely, but that is not what counts - what counts is determining that something is wrong and fixing it.
There is no one single way. Usually, it's going to be a case of what happens, before something else can happen....How can you determine that some detail is wrong? Prophecies are quite ambiguous most of time.
Well, my eschatology is quite simple - everything happened either around 30 AD or around 66-70 AD. Not sure what the chart should present.There is no one single way. Ususally, it going to be a case of what happens, before something else can happen....
The major events, most people who are into eschatology are aware of. Just put them on a timeline chart to get the order straight, and when possible, include the timeframes surrounding each event.
We start with what we have. Which is the written text of the bible. And historical record. It is only by God helping us and showing the way that we can get it right.Well, my eschatology is quite simple - everything happened either around 30 AD or around 66-70 AD. Not sure what the chart should present.
To figure out details is hard, because I was not there and I have only incomplete written historical records.
God didn't have his prophets right in chart form. I don't see any reason anyone else should.To very active posters at this forum,
What I want to see from you, is not just your verbiage of your eschatology view. I want to see a timeline chart of the elements of your eschatology position.
What you should do is make a timeline chart of all your iterations, fitting everything you have been writing about and claiming, and putting it into a non-fragmented form of a timeline chart. To show how any of it makes sense.
Start a timeline chart.... and work on it, until the contradictions are ironed out. it will probably be an ongoing work in progress.
Here is mine....which most of you have seen over and over. You make yours - prove your views, interpretations, and claims, fit together to form the big picture.
View attachment 279325
I don't think God is asking you to be a prophet, is He? None of the prophets put all the end times prophecies together in relation to one another. In fact, the prophecies are by a multitude of prophets in different generations.God didn't have his prophets right in chart form. I don't see any reason anyone else should.
I don't think God is asking you to be a prophet. None of the prophets put all the end times prophecies together in relation to one another. In fact, the prophecies are by a multitude of prophets in different generations.
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