I thought that Jesus was really using Beelzebub to cast out demons!

[Sammy-San]

First of all, I have no time to be searching the internet to find all the people who take a stand against God. There are millions of them and I have no time nor desire to spend 1 second trying to track them down. Instead, we should spend our time helping others who WANT TO LEARN ABOUT CHRIST how to develop a relationship with him.

Regarding this link you shared... yes it is blasphemy... but is West doesn't know God, never has known God... then while still a sin it is a sin of ignorance. There is a difference between sinning when you have no comprehension of righteousness and rebelling which means you KNOW what God wants and you do something else instead. Would this be blasphemy that can't be forgiven? I would guess that if West has never understood the righteousness of God that it can be forgiven if he comes to a state of repentance. But if West once walked with God and understood righteousness and then took a position against Him... then perhaps not. I am not his judge... I would rather spend my time on those who want to hear.

So it is blasphemy but not that type?

 

[Ken Rank]

So it is blasphemy but not that type?

Yes, it can be blasphemy but not to the point of being unforgivable.

 

[Sammy-San]

Yes, it can be blasphemy but not to the point of being unforgivable.

Is taking God's name in vain a form of blasphemy?

 

[Ken Rank]

Is taking God's name in vain a form of blasphemy?

Blasphemy yes.... in the manner in which one cannot be forgiven, probably not. But "in the name" to a Hebrew has a different meaning than most Christians understand. And remember, "God" isn't His name, anyway.

 

[Sammy-San]

Blasphemy yes.... in the manner in which one cannot be forgiven, probably not. But "in the name" to a Hebrew has a different meaning than most Christians understand. And remember, "God" isn't His name, anyway.

Is "name' and "in the name" the same thing?

 

[Ken Rank]

Is "name' and "in the name" the same thing?

In Hebrew, the word shem (name) deals more with a person's character, reputation, and authority over what we call them. If a person has a good name, that means they have good character and a good reputation. So... to "walk in God's name" would mean to either walk in His authority or walk in a manner consistent with His character. To profane His name would mean profaning His character, standing opposed to His authority, taking away from His reputation.

So, to walk "in His name" means walking in line with His character and authority.

 

[Sammy-San]

In Hebrew, the word shem (name) deals more with a person's character, reputation, and authority over what we call them. If a person has a good name, that means they have good character and a good reputation. So... to "walk in God's name" would mean to either walk in His authority or walk in a manner consistent with His character. To profane His name would mean profaning His character, standing opposed to His authority, taking away from His reputation.

So, to walk "in His name" means walking in line with His character and authority.

So saying God in stress or anger isn't blasphemy?

 

[Ken Rank]

So saying God in stress or anger isn't blasphemy?

"God" is not His name... that is a title, it is WHAT He is, WHO He is... but that is not His name.

 

[Sammy-San]

"God" is not His name... that is a title, it is WHAT He is, WHO He is... but that is not His name.

So Dio is a title too?

I thought a title includes "the" before it. So Gabriel and Michael aren't names but are just titles?

 

[Sammy-San]

That is the unpardonable sin - to claim that the work of the Holy Spirit - is in fact the work of the devil - because it is the Holy Spirit that "convicts the World of sin and righteousness and judgment" John 16. Thus it is our only connection to the Gospel - being born again is done only by the Holy Spirit.

But in your case which is a case of simply misreading a text, that is not the same thing as rejecting the Holy Spirit.

Aren't there other forms of blaspheming the Holy Spirit?

 

[Ken Rank]

So Dio is a title too?

I thought a title includes "the" before it. So Gabriel and Michael aren't names but are just titles?

God's name is spelled Yod hay vav hay in Hebrew. We write it as YHWH or YHVH, and some pronounce it Yahwey, Yehovah, Jehovah, and so forth. But... like I said, this is not about words... "profaning His name" is not using a word the wrong way it is ACTING in a manner that stands opposed to His character or authority. Name = character, authority, and reputation. So you are "in His name" when you are in accord with His authority or character and "against His name" when you disobey or otherwise stand against His authority and character. It has nothing to do with saying or not saying "God" or "Lord" or "Theos" or "Dios" or anything else like that.

 

[Sammy-San]

God's name is spelled Yod hay vav hay in Hebrew. We write it as YHWH or YHVH, and some pronounce it Yahwey, Yehovah, Jehovah, and so forth. But... like I said, this is not about words... "profaning His name" is not using a word the wrong way it is ACTING in a manner that stands opposed to His character or authority. Name = character, authority, and reputation. So you are "in His name" when you are in accord with His authority or character and "against His name" when you disobey or otherwise stand against His authority and character. It has nothing to do with saying or not saying "God" or "Lord" or "Theos" or "Dios" or anything else like that.

So taking God's name in vain is technically a seperate sin?

 

[BobRyan]

Aren't there other forms of blaspheming the Holy Spirit?

The "sin that will not be forgiven in this life or the life to come" is from MAtt 12 where the Jews accuse Christ of working via the power of Satan instead of via the Holy Spirit. The only reason this is 'unpardonable' is that it is the Spirit that convicts us of wrong and brings about the New Birth - if we turn Him away - we only have our depraved sinful natures as our "guide" and Romans 3 says that sinful nature is filled with bad ideas. This is what makes blasphemy against the Holy Spirit so fatal.

 

[Sammy-San]

The "sin that will not be forgiven in this life or the life to come" is from MAtt 12 where the Jews accuse Christ of working via the power of Satan instead of via the Holy Spirit. The only reason this is 'unpardonable' is that it is the Spirit that convicts us of wrong and brings about the New Birth - if we turn Him away - we only have our depraved sinful natures as our "guide" and Romans 3 says that sinful nature is filled with bad ideas. This is what makes blasphemy against the Holy Spirit so fatal.

I've commented that certain miracles weren't of God I started to worry if I called God's power the devil.

 

[Ken Rank]

So taking God's name in vain is technically a seperate sin?

Than blasphemy of the Holy Spirit? Yes though I could argue that it is covered under taking His name in vain. Remember, "love God" and "love neighbor" sum up the 10, and the 10 sum up the rest.