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It is what it is. The internet is tricky to maneuver through that's for sureIn another forum. A non-religious hobby forum, we have a highly successful member who openly admits being Christian and I guess proud to be one.
He often tells about his career. A very good one. As an engineer (or a scientist, can't remember the exact detail on that one) working for one of the top aerospace companies in USA, having high level security clearance and also worked on smaller but high profile projects. No doubt he is highly intelligent and smart, a man with 'golden hands' everything he worked on succeeded. And his career made him quite well off financially and retired successfully, no debt with large savings and large income from investments and pension. He travels all over the world with his wife many times a year.
He often talks about his successful career and attributes everything to God all of his blessings and success. Everyone in the forum knows him. He knows me just enough to trust me. Then lately, I often see him write in his posts he no longer values money and material things.
So I tested him on the things he wrote.One thing about this rich Christian pensioner, he had lots of cars for his own use only. He doesn't collect cars but he has different vehicles for different occasions. Some of them expensive, some are just regular sedans like most people drive to work.
Everyone in the forum knows me for having plenty of car problems with my old beat up car. So I asked this rich member if he can give me one of his car that's working perfectly fine to replace my old beat up car. He says he can't. I gave him a 2nd option, if he can't give up any of his cars due to sentimental value, he can send me money instead so I can find a good used car to replace my old beat up car. Again, he said no and he told me not because he doesn't trust me nor doesn't like me, he just wouldn't do it.
So I reasoned with him. He had plenty of 'disposable money', cars he can give away without problem. If he doesn't value money nor material things anymore, he shouldn't have any problems giving them to those who may need it so badly.
He gave a final reply he just can't with a smiley. He did not give any reason nor tried to debate the topic. From that point on, I never saw him write about his his beliefs about money and material things anymore. He also stopped telling about his Christianity. I wonder sometimes if I overdid it or did just right. After all, it would seem his intentions are in the wrong place and I made him out to be a hypocrite when it comes to worldly things.
I've observed this behavior often enough among other Christians with privileged life. They say they don't value money but ask them for a bit of help with money, they won't.
It is what it is. The internet is tricky to maneuver through that's for sure
I was only responding to the context you gave in your post. Thank you for replying though.When a Pastor also tells of another Christian in front of a congregation who turned their life around and got better, that's not gossip. Yes? If a pastor does that in a forums, still not gossip? If a non-pastor member does the same act in a forums, not gossip?
I didn't even tell the person's name, not even his screen name. I also kept telling he got better. The test I did to him made him a better Christian, no longer boastful of his 'religious discipline' and we got closer.
This thread wasn't for my own gain either. Another member actually offered to give me a car for free to replace my badly beat up car but I refused. I am very thankful for his kindness, mercy, and generosity but I refused. I really am in need of financial rescue quite badly BUT I won't ask for anyone's help and if anyone would try to help, I'll just refuse help. I have accepted help in the past from Christian relatives and friends. It wasn't much. Not exactly what could solve the problem long term or even permanently via good job opportunities. Wasn't their fault. They're the help God sent me so it must be the best option for me. And I don't feel right anymore getting help it just makes feel even more awful than the problem itself.
If he is a Christian that is attentive to the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit could have just told him no.Everyone in the forum knows me for having plenty of car problems with my old beat up car. So I asked this rich member if he can give me one of his car that's working perfectly fine to replace my old beat up car. He says he can't. I gave him a 2nd option, if he can't give up any of his cars due to sentimental value, he can send me money instead so I can find a good used car to replace my old beat up car. Again, he said no and he told me not because he doesn't trust me nor doesn't like me, he just wouldn't do it.
So I reasoned with him. He had plenty of 'disposable money', cars he can give away without problem. If he doesn't value money nor material things anymore, he shouldn't have any problems giving them to those who may need it so badly.
He gave a final reply he just can't with a smiley.
I was only responding to the context you gave in your post. Thank you for replying though.
If he is a Christian that is attentive to the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit could have just told him no.
Not every Christian is given all the gifts. The gift of deliverance from evil spirits is very real though.
"...He will do even greater things..." via other supernatural gifts and also with modern technology.
You said it yourself "prepared" -- believer. "Prepared" means they did something the unprepared one didn't do.
I think something is blinding you to the truth. Those verses say the bad servant got condemned to death, not just a position of non-rulership. He will die with the hypocrites.
Are you a Universalist Christian by any chance? Everyone gets save, nobody is condemned?
Nothing is blinding me to the truth, as i am not the one adding their own theology into The Bible. So far you have not provided any Biblical support for any of your beliefs.
I did. We simply have denominational differences and you simply can't see outside your denominational construct. Many Christians can't so you're not alone.
I once belonged to your denomination for 20 years. I left because it no longer made sense against the Word of God in the Bible.
Or the Biblical verses used, were not connected to the context or the area of discussion.
I never heard it preached in sermons either but it's there in the Bible.
Well my point is simple, believers are called to tell people (unbelievers) who are looking for God's free gift of Eternal Life salvation. How to receive God's Eternal Life salvation, i see nowhere. Where believers are to go around testing people on unrelated areas, to receiving God's free gift of Eternal Life.
But the sad point to this is that, many who identify as christians. Have no idea how to receive God's free gift of Eternal Life salvation. So if they do not know, then they can not tell another person (unbeliever) how to receive God's Eternal Life salvation and become a permanent born again child of God.
If a person never receives God's free gift of Eternal Life and becomes a permanent born again child of God. Then they can serve God all they want, but they are just only building up good works. To be applied to their position they will have in the lake of fire.
It sounds to me that the "Free Gift of Eternal Salvation" has become more important to you than God. It has become your idol.
In another forum. A non-religious hobby forum, we have a highly successful member who openly admits being Christian and I guess proud to be one.
He often tells about his career. A very good one. As an engineer (or a scientist, can't remember the exact detail on that one) working for one of the top aerospace companies in USA, having high level security clearance and also worked on smaller but high profile projects. No doubt he is highly intelligent and smart, a man with 'golden hands' everything he worked on succeeded. And his career made him quite well off financially and retired successfully, no debt with large savings and large income from investments and pension. He travels all over the world with his wife many times a year.
He often talks about his successful career and attributes everything to God all of his blessings and success. Everyone in the forum knows him. He knows me just enough to trust me. Then lately, I often see him write in his posts he no longer values money and material things.
So I tested him on the things he wrote.One thing about this rich Christian pensioner, he had lots of cars for his own use only. He doesn't collect cars but he has different vehicles for different occasions. Some of them expensive, some are just regular sedans like most people drive to work.
Everyone in the forum knows me for having plenty of car problems with my old beat up car. So I asked this rich member if he can give me one of his car that's working perfectly fine to replace my old beat up car. He says he can't. I gave him a 2nd option, if he can't give up any of his cars due to sentimental value, he can send me money instead so I can find a good used car to replace my old beat up car. Again, he said no and he told me not because he doesn't trust me nor doesn't like me, he just wouldn't do it.
So I reasoned with him. He had plenty of 'disposable money', cars he can give away without problem. If he doesn't value money nor material things anymore, he shouldn't have any problems giving them to those who may need it so badly.
He gave a final reply he just can't with a smiley. He did not give any reason nor tried to debate the topic. From that point on, I never saw him write about his his beliefs about money and material things anymore. He also stopped telling about his Christianity. I wonder sometimes if I overdid it or did just right. After all, it would seem his intentions are in the wrong place and I made him out to be a hypocrite when it comes to worldly things.
I've observed this behavior often enough among other Christians with privileged life. They say they don't value money but ask them for a bit of help with money, they won't.
People don't want others to come out of the woodwork looking for a handout. When I help someone out, I want to do so on my terms - and where there is no expectation of ongoing future support.
I can tell you what my son's attitude is. He worked hard in High School. He worked hard in College. He has a good paying job as a result of hard work. Everyone had the same opportunity that he had but made a decision not to work hard to get ahead in life by getting a good education so you can get a good paying job. So he does not feel any responsibility to bail them out for their lack of effort.He had the option to visit my place to make sure I'm going to use the car or the money for good and he knew it.
I can tell you what my son's attitude is. He worked hard in High School. He worked hard in College. He has a good paying job as a result of hard work. Everyone had the same opportunity that he had but made a decision not to work hard to get ahead in life by getting a good education so you can get a good paying job. So he does not feel any responsibility to bail them out for their lack of effort.
I never ask anyone for anything.
I ask God.
Begging is not an option, for any reason.
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