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this may not be the right place for this thread, but I'm putting it here bc i dont know where else to put it. if i need to move it, just tell me where and i will...

ok so my issue. i wanna know what the Christians are supposed to believe about the paranormal. ghosts, spirits, physics, etc.

ive been led to believe that those type things are evil. but i just dont feel like thats true...

im 17... and i think ive had a few paranormal experiences in my chort lifetime. i fit many of the characteristics of an indigo child, and im in the right age range. im developing characteristics of "crystal children", like a lot of people say that indigo children will.

im very confused and curious right now. i think i may have a gift, but im afraid to accept it, bc of what it would mean. for my spirituality...


someone please, please help me to understand all this...
 

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I believe to play with the paranormal is to play with the devil himself. The Bible says that the devil is the prince of this world, and he has come to destroy. If one plays with him, it would be to their ruin.

Jesus died so that we could be free of the devil's influence. Once we have the Holy Spirit living within us the devil has not power over us. He may tempt us and try to get us to not live for the Lord, but he has no real power in our lives.

When we become believers we are given spiritual gifts for God's glory. I would rather have those gifts, as they are described in 1 Corinthians, than the gifts of which you speak.
 
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but how am i supposed to ignore seeing things and hearing things that other people dont hear and see? its not like im trying to "do the devils work" or something...
Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour? Have you studied scripture? Have you prayed and sought God's deliverance and guidance in this matter?

Jesus will not let you down, if you seek Him.
 
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this may not be the right place for this thread, but I'm putting it here bc i dont know where else to put it. if i need to move it, just tell me where and i will...

ok so my issue. i wanna know what the Christians are supposed to believe about the paranormal. ghosts, spirits, physics, etc.

ive been led to believe that those type things are evil. but i just dont feel like thats true...

im 17... and i think ive had a few paranormal experiences in my chort lifetime. i fit many of the characteristics of an indigo child, and im in the right age range. im developing characteristics of "crystal children", like a lot of people say that indigo children will.

im very confused and curious right now. i think i may have a gift, but im afraid to accept it, bc of what it would mean. for my spirituality...


someone please, please help me to understand all this...

Hi, I'm glad you wrote.

I see you have a Chistian icon, and are wanting to know what Christians think on the matters you mentioned.

As to the list at top here is a passage from the bible as to what God says of some of those things:
Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in [a] the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. 12 Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD, and because of these detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you.

There's several reasons God mentions this if not more, but two I can give you off hand.

He is speaking with the nation he chose the ot, the Israelites. They, like us, were to be set apart and different than those in the world.

We are to be set apart and different than those in the world, and such occurs spiritually when we believe/have faith/trust in Jesus.

Also as we turn from the sin/our past we are set apart, as well as the many things which occur when we come to Christ, spitually, and from reading the bible, and having our minds renewed (which come by reading the bible) and as I said the much that occurs to us in Christ, and we continue to grow in all our lives.

The other reason is that such is done by demons.

Ghosts, and abilities to do paranormal things are done by demons such as all listed in the above passage.

The above things are not by the power of God.

Not all is by demons as some is by trade, a sort of smoke and mirrors things, such as many magicians do.

When someone has come to Christ, from an occultic past or experiences, and/or has abilities by demons, they may still be able to do what they used to do.

So, the thing to do is to stop as we see above God calls it detestable. The other thing is to keep away from such things. Bible says flee from evil, or same as run from evil.. Such is how important it is to get away from any involvement in such.

There are many Christians who have come out of the occult, or had occult like experienes, and if you desire, I can find someone who can write to you to help you.

So while you wrote you're not sure if is evil, it is of evil as is by demonic abilities, and not from God and written not to participate in such as well.

Another reason that God does not desire people to do such is that in things such as psyhic, calling on the dead etc, God wants us to go to Him, to trust in Him, talk with Him, and seek Him only.

At the end of your post you say it is a gift and you don't know if you should accept it.

Clearly, it is not a gift of God.

In the new testament a girl could tell the future. In the passage an apostle tells the spirit to come out of her, which it does.

In the OT there were those who could replicate some things by magic, (demons.) This is written about as in Exodus I believe and pertains to pharoah.

There are little bits here and there, but is all known as evil.

Not that you are evil, however God says do not do such things and we know in general how very dangerous it is to be involved in the occult, as is a way of attracting demons as well.

Of course as believers in Christ, when we are under spiritual attack demons indeed can cause us problems, though we do not know for sure, as can not see in the spiritual realm, however, the difference is, is that while under attack, or believing one is under attack, one calls one can say in the name of Jesus I command you to leave (of course one must be a Christian.)

Bible says our struggle is not against flesh and blood but against spiritual wickedness in high places. (demons) highly paraphrased but can find this in ephesians 6.

And one does not want to be obsessed with the demonic realm, as that is a huge problem, nor does one want to ignore that such exists, including satan, and again speaking of ephesians 6, and nor does one ever want to fear satan or demons.. as we know that the one who is in us (God) is greater than the one in this world (satan.)

satan and demons are of course fallen angels and do evil, and they were created as angels.. there are good angels and angels who fell (sinned) called demons, including satan, who is a fallen angel an evil being,who lies to us about God, as satan is a liar (and lies about much), deciever and murderer. Such as the same as are demons.

you can see why no one wants anything to do with demonic abilities, powers, or be obsessed or play with 'fire'

take care, and let me know if you'd like someone who has come out of the occult to write you.

God bless,
tapero
 
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but how am i supposed to ignore seeing things and hearing things that other people dont hear and see? its not like im trying to "do the devils work" or something...

Hi, you focus on Jesus and on the bible.

Also, there is a verse that further tells us how to deal with such:
For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. 4The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. 5We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

The part in blue means take each and every thought captive to Jesus as comes up..even if every second..no matter what it is.

Also there are medical conditions where some see and hear things which others do not see or hear.

If you are fairly much aware that what you are dealing with is occultic, then what we've given you is a start to help you to stop.

If is not of the occult, then there may be a medical situation going on as well.

God bless,
tapero
 
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none of you are understanding this...

yes, im a christian.

yes, i read my bible daily.

no, im NOT GOING AROUND LOOKING FOR TROUBLE.

i cant stop seeing what i see. it just happens. i dont try to make it happen...

and im not talking demons here either. im talking about ghosts. spirits that can't move on...
 
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none of you are understanding this...

yes, im a christian.

yes, i read my bible daily.

no, im NOT GOING AROUND LOOKING FOR TROUBLE.

i cant stop seeing what i see. it just happens. i dont try to make it happen...

and im not talking demons here either. im talking about ghosts. spirits that can't move on...

Hi, I do understand, and they are demons, they are not of God. No one is saying or I didn't say you are not Christian or that you are evil. But those are things that are of the occult, and are demonic. They are the evil things, not you.

I did state that Christians can have such abilities when come to Christ, but showed from scripture such is not of God, and is detestable to God, in other words, don't have anything to do with such.

Whether it means to run fast and far, or whatever it takes so that you overcome this which is occuring to you which is not from God.

eta: ghosts and spirits are demons. They are not of God nor from God.
 
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none of you are understanding this...

yes, im a christian.

yes, i read my bible daily.

no, im NOT GOING AROUND LOOKING FOR TROUBLE.

i cant stop seeing what i see. it just happens. i dont try to make it happen...

and im not talking demons here either. im talking about ghosts. spirits that can't move on...

You might try just telling them to go away; there is scriptural warrant for that approach:
James 4:7. Give in to God, then; resist the devil, and he will run away from you.

It is also legitimate to scorn such apparitions, like old Scrooge in Dickens:

"Scrooge explained to him that he was nothing more than a figment of his imagination- "a little thing affects them. A slight disorder of the stomach makes them cheats. You may be an undigested bit of beef, a blot of mustard, a crumb of cheese, a fragment of an underdone potato. There's more of gravy than of grave about you, whatever you are!"
 
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this may not be the right place for this thread, but I'm putting it here bc i dont know where else to put it. if i need to move it, just tell me where and i will...

ok so my issue. i wanna know what the Christians are supposed to believe about the paranormal. ghosts, spirits, physics, etc.

ive been led to believe that those type things are evil. but i just dont feel like thats true...

im 17... and i think ive had a few paranormal experiences in my chort lifetime. i fit many of the characteristics of an indigo child, and im in the right age range. im developing characteristics of "crystal children", like a lot of people say that indigo children will.

im very confused and curious right now. i think i may have a gift, but im afraid to accept it, bc of what it would mean. for my spirituality...


someone please, please help me to understand all this...
Your a seeker after my own heart! I also once hungered incessantly for the supernatural and still to this day believe that this capacity, or even "calling" perhaps, was originally and Divinely imparted. The big trouble I eventually discovered though was that Satan can and will occupy and thoroughly misuse a genuine spiritual capacity or gift that God has bestowed upon you, bestowed even perhaps from birth. From day "1" I had a very definite pull towards the supernatural, which "pull" has remained to this minute and hour. This all may be compared now to a Divinely constructed foundation that is layed early in life, which foundation God indeed may build a holy structure upon at a later date, or Satan as well build with a corresponding corrupt structure. Now, when I passed the "age of accountability" without personally and volitionally choosing to believe in Christ's saving merits for me, the devil then quickly took advantage of this "young fool", (now outside of the pardoning efficacy of Christ's precious blood,) and nicely stepped into that spiritual capacity with a whole line-up of counterfeit spiritual operations, the better part of which were very enjoyable and impressive to me at the time. Imagine my shock when I discovered that these spiritual experiences of a supernatural nature were really nothing but the work of deceiving demons who were supplying me with their services, (by their reckoning,) which services they fully intended to demand a later payment for in the form of demonic oppression, afflictions and a black despair right out of hell that words cannot describe.

They were very good about demanding payment.

Take it from me: If you seek spiritual experiences...Head straight for the God of the Bible and never stop running for Him or ever, ever look back. Seek Him with all of your heart in point of these spiritual hungerings that you may feel. If...if you've really been given some sort of "spiritual capacity" by God, then He will no doubt fill that capacity up with such satisfying and safe operations of His Holy Spirit that will bless you both now and in eternity, unlike the reverse "neat deal" that deceiving demons give you which results in liability now and damnation in eternity. Head straight for God and make sure that the Being that you call "God" is also a Being who works invariably and exactly according to the Word of God...the Bible. Counterfeiting demons cannot, cannot, cannot operate strictly according to divine truth or be beaten either without the "belief of the truth that will set you free" as Jesus said.
Fill a Divinely imparted capacity up with the Divinely imparted operations of the Holy Spirit, which operations are according to and determined by Divine truth. There simply is no other safe way that it can be done.

This matter couldn't be more important for you: Satan, (trust me,) never did a single good thing for anybody or anything in his whole rotten, deceptive career...But the truine God of the Bible has yet to let anybody down who honestly made Him their sole and solitary hope. He who alone knows how to properly build a foundation, still knows how to build upon it.
 
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