i dont know what to believe right now im bouncing between athiest and satanist i dont believe there is a god everyone sais there is but i no think some someone please give me truth or guide me in his ways please
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i need help, please!
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forgotten1 said:
I think I'll let it out: My internal instinct says: What the heck is this guy thinking? He wants to be Marylin Manson???
In other words, In my viewpoint, I don't think there's a problem with not believing in God, but I don't think you should go the other way by following Satanism.
My best advice to you is to follow the golden rule.
Follow this link, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_Reciprocity , It gives you alot of things about it. Santanism doesn't seem to follow the golden rule.
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I say don't go the other way are you ready to give what satan is going to want when he gets through with you are you aware that he is here to kill, still, and destroy, and one of the writers said if you beleive in the devil you beleive in GOD I say if you don't read any other part of the bible read revelations. I could go on but only if you say so PM me.
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forgotten1 said:
You are having a struggle. To be an athiest would mean you have no belief of anything, but a satanist would mean you would have to believe in something. Both paths lead to a dead-end (no pun intended). You obviously are in search of something to fill your beliefs. By posing this question on here, you are asking for christian advice for this decision and you will not get a "sugar-coated" answer that it's okay to pick between to evils. To the dismay of many athiest's..there is a God, yet they choose to reject him by claiming that He's not real. They think that if they say it...then it makes it true. If you don't believe in God...then why would you choose to become a satanist? God is the one who created the angel Lucifer who later had a pride issue and God cast him out of heaven. You can't believe in one and not believe in the other.
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bethdinsmore
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Hi there 
Your post reminds me a bit of my testimony. Thought you might be interested in a couple of previous posts of mine:
"I was raised in a liberal "Christian" church that taught there were mistakes in the Bible. I swallowed it whole, never asking them to show me the mistakes so I could check them out for myself. Instead, I became an atheist for about 12 years. Then I made the mistake of playing the Ouija Board, and became demon oppressed. I quickly realized the reality of the supernatural world. More than that, I would pray when the strange things would happen, and they would immediately stop for a time. That proved to me that there had to be a good supernatural being who had dominance over the evil.
"The next couple of years were very frightening for me. Among other things, I could read people's minds. There was a pull there, like I could have more power if I asked Satan for it, but I was never tempted, I could tell the demons had nothing in store for me but evil and destruction. Because of those problems, and the fact that they would temporarily stop when I asked God to stop them (even tho I had been an atheist), I started searching for the one true God who could protect me.
As I was terrified, I started searching various religions to see where the truth was. The puzzle pieces finally fell into place when I read The Late Great Planet Earth, a book on Christian Evidences about Biblical prophecy. It showed that past prophecies had been fulfilled 100% of the time, and convinced me there had to be a God guiding the writing of the Bible. (A good overview of Christian Evidences is: www.rbc.org/ds/salvation.html, and click on "Why we believe: Evidences for Christian Faith". For tough questions, also see: www.rbc.org/questions/ and click on the desired subject.)
Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father but by Me." So that verse boils down to the famous question, "Is Jesus the Lord, a liar, or a lunatic?" The accuracy of the Scriptures convinced me that Jesus is who He says He is - the Lord. "In the Bible it says that the true God draws all people to Himself, and that the Holy Spirit convicts them of sin, righteousness, and judgment (in other words, of the need for a Savior).
There was a Gospel invitation in the book, and I accepted Christ as my sinbearer at that point.
"Soon after that, I asked God to forgive my sin of playing the Ouija Board (we can sometimes break a law that we are not aware of). I had already thrown the Board away. Immediately things were much better. Every time there would be an incident, I would simply command Satan to take his demons and leave, based on the power of Jesus Christ and His shed blood for me. It has been some time since I have had any demonic oppression, though I know Satan would still like to break me, since I am a Christian. But I'm on the winning team.
"I am definitely no expert, but: when a person has a brush with the supernatural, or events can't be explained in a natural way, I think it could also help to talk to someone on the staff of a church who has dealt with these things. I have gone to conservative, evangelical Christian churches for this help - usually it is only a large church that has someone like that on their staff. "God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of a sound mind...." For everyone who has trusted in Christ as their sinbearer, they need not fear Satan or his demons - they just need to be alert. (I Peter 5:7-10) "Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you. Be self controlled and alert. You enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that your brothers throughout the world are going through the same kind of sufferings. And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm, and steadfast." NIV The true God is able to protect you as you seek Him. "You will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart." Jeremiah 29
"Story about a Satanist:
"A Christian friend I had once told some of her friends about me. They wanted to talk to me because they were in the occult, and had eventually gotten very frightened. They wanted out. (One was a Satanist, one was a black witch, and two were white witches.)
"The person who seemed in the greatest immediate danger was a Satanist. (The Satan Seeker gives a good example of the types of things he did and things that happened to him).Through card reading, etc., the demons had told him that the wife of his parent's pastor would die within a week (it happened - she commited suicide). Later they told him that his father would die within a week (it happened - he had a heart attack). So when they told him he would one day die by fire or by water, he was terrified. At that time, he asked my friend to make an appointment for the three of us. We did, and prayed daily for his safety. Because he was so terrified, he delayed for months before finally seeing me.
"That particular day, the phone rang at 8:00am - I figured it was something really important, because my friends knew not to call around that time since I would be having daily devotions. Sure enough, it turned out to be my friend "Shirley". She said that "John" wanted to make an appointment to meet that night, for the first time. I was so happy, and told her that when the phone rang I had been praying for John's safety.
"Long story short, while I was telling John that night about my occult experiences, Shirley interrupted all of a sudden and said, "Cathy was praying for your safety at eight this morning." John looked astonished, and said, "I was at the top of a long flight of concrete steps at that time - I had just looked at my watch. Though no one was behind me, I felt like someone shoved me in the back. I fell all the way down, but I wasn't hurt in the slightest." Eventually John left the occult and became a ......... (you guessed it), and was never harmed. (The other friends, once they made the same choices, also were delivered from harm)."
Hope this sheds some more light on the subject.
By the way, forgotten1, the Lord has not forgotten you:
Isa 61:1-3
1 The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me, because the LORD has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners,
2 to proclaim the year of the LORD's favor and the day of vengeance of our God, to comfort all who mourn,
3 and provide for those who grieve in Zion-- to bestow on them a crown of beauty instead of ashes, the oil of gladness instead of mourning, and a garment of praise instead of a spirit of despair. They will be called oaks of righteousness, a planting of the LORD for the display of his splendor.
(NIV)
I know this was a very long post. Thank your for your patience. May this all turn into a wonderful, successful adventure for you, as it has for me. I am praying for you and for your safety.
Aloha in Jesus.
Your post reminds me a bit of my testimony. Thought you might be interested in a couple of previous posts of mine:
"I was raised in a liberal "Christian" church that taught there were mistakes in the Bible. I swallowed it whole, never asking them to show me the mistakes so I could check them out for myself. Instead, I became an atheist for about 12 years. Then I made the mistake of playing the Ouija Board, and became demon oppressed. I quickly realized the reality of the supernatural world. More than that, I would pray when the strange things would happen, and they would immediately stop for a time. That proved to me that there had to be a good supernatural being who had dominance over the evil."The next couple of years were very frightening for me. Among other things, I could read people's minds. There was a pull there, like I could have more power if I asked Satan for it, but I was never tempted, I could tell the demons had nothing in store for me but evil and destruction. Because of those problems, and the fact that they would temporarily stop when I asked God to stop them (even tho I had been an atheist), I started searching for the one true God who could protect me.
As I was terrified, I started searching various religions to see where the truth was. The puzzle pieces finally fell into place when I read The Late Great Planet Earth, a book on Christian Evidences about Biblical prophecy. It showed that past prophecies had been fulfilled 100% of the time, and convinced me there had to be a God guiding the writing of the Bible. (A good overview of Christian Evidences is: www.rbc.org/ds/salvation.html, and click on "Why we believe: Evidences for Christian Faith". For tough questions, also see: www.rbc.org/questions/ and click on the desired subject.)Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father but by Me." So that verse boils down to the famous question, "Is Jesus the Lord, a liar, or a lunatic?" The accuracy of the Scriptures convinced me that Jesus is who He says He is - the Lord. "In the Bible it says that the true God draws all people to Himself, and that the Holy Spirit convicts them of sin, righteousness, and judgment (in other words, of the need for a Savior).
There was a Gospel invitation in the book, and I accepted Christ as my sinbearer at that point.
"Soon after that, I asked God to forgive my sin of playing the Ouija Board (we can sometimes break a law that we are not aware of). I had already thrown the Board away. Immediately things were much better. Every time there would be an incident, I would simply command Satan to take his demons and leave, based on the power of Jesus Christ and His shed blood for me. It has been some time since I have had any demonic oppression, though I know Satan would still like to break me, since I am a Christian. But I'm on the winning team.
"I am definitely no expert, but: when a person has a brush with the supernatural, or events can't be explained in a natural way, I think it could also help to talk to someone on the staff of a church who has dealt with these things. I have gone to conservative, evangelical Christian churches for this help - usually it is only a large church that has someone like that on their staff. "God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of a sound mind...." For everyone who has trusted in Christ as their sinbearer, they need not fear Satan or his demons - they just need to be alert. (I Peter 5:7-10) "Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you. Be self controlled and alert. You enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that your brothers throughout the world are going through the same kind of sufferings. And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm, and steadfast." NIV The true God is able to protect you as you seek Him. "You will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart." Jeremiah 29
"Story about a Satanist:
"A Christian friend I had once told some of her friends about me. They wanted to talk to me because they were in the occult, and had eventually gotten very frightened. They wanted out. (One was a Satanist, one was a black witch, and two were white witches.)
"The person who seemed in the greatest immediate danger was a Satanist. (The Satan Seeker gives a good example of the types of things he did and things that happened to him).Through card reading, etc., the demons had told him that the wife of his parent's pastor would die within a week (it happened - she commited suicide). Later they told him that his father would die within a week (it happened - he had a heart attack). So when they told him he would one day die by fire or by water, he was terrified. At that time, he asked my friend to make an appointment for the three of us. We did, and prayed daily for his safety. Because he was so terrified, he delayed for months before finally seeing me.
"That particular day, the phone rang at 8:00am - I figured it was something really important, because my friends knew not to call around that time since I would be having daily devotions. Sure enough, it turned out to be my friend "Shirley". She said that "John" wanted to make an appointment to meet that night, for the first time. I was so happy, and told her that when the phone rang I had been praying for John's safety.
"Long story short, while I was telling John that night about my occult experiences, Shirley interrupted all of a sudden and said, "Cathy was praying for your safety at eight this morning." John looked astonished, and said, "I was at the top of a long flight of concrete steps at that time - I had just looked at my watch. Though no one was behind me, I felt like someone shoved me in the back. I fell all the way down, but I wasn't hurt in the slightest." Eventually John left the occult and became a ......... (you guessed it)
, and was never harmed. (The other friends, once they made the same choices, also were delivered from harm)."Hope this sheds some more light on the subject.
By the way, forgotten1, the Lord has not forgotten you:
Isa 61:1-3
1 The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me, because the LORD has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners,
2 to proclaim the year of the LORD's favor and the day of vengeance of our God, to comfort all who mourn,
3 and provide for those who grieve in Zion-- to bestow on them a crown of beauty instead of ashes, the oil of gladness instead of mourning, and a garment of praise instead of a spirit of despair. They will be called oaks of righteousness, a planting of the LORD for the display of his splendor.
(NIV)
I know this was a very long post. Thank your for your patience. May this all turn into a wonderful, successful adventure for you, as it has for me. I am praying for you and for your safety.
Aloha in Jesus.
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psychedelicist
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forgotten1 said:
Why does your icon say you're taoist, if you want to be either a satanist or an atheist?
BTW, there are different types of satanism. I assume you're talking about LaVeyan Satanism, the metaphorical kind? It's realy nothing more than a set of ethics for the most part. There aren't a whole lot of rituals or anything like that. Luciferianism, on the other hand,does believe in the Biblical god and satan. I would not recommend the latter, it can be a little messed up. LaVeyan satanism, while I have seen rituals for it, is mostly just ethics related, most LaVeyans are atheistic.
My advice: Decide for yourself whether or not there's a god, and figure it out yourself. It des no good for you to just go by what others tell you.
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Godzgurl
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forgotten1 said:
You asked for the truth.......we'll the truth i believe is that there is a God and that he loves you. Whenever i have asked for help or guidance he has given it to me. He doesn't always answer my prayers the way i want him to but he is always there for me. It is amazing to me that no matter how many times we mess up he forgives me and he will forgive u to if u only ask him. u may ask why i believe there is a God and why he would care about me. We'll my answer is that throughout my life he has performed miracles and sometimes when i'm at a christian function, where everyone is praising him, i get this awesome sense of peace like nothing i could ever describe. you feel like God's right there with u and even if the feeling only lasts for a moment it renews my faith in him everytime. if u let God into ur heart and ask him for forgiveness and to make u reborn in him then he will. i hope this helped u and i want u to know that i'll be praying for u. please try going to a church and asking a pastor to talk to u or if not that then sit down with a bible and just start reading. or if ur comfortable with the idea try praying...pray is the best way to get to know God. give God a chance to make a difference in ur life, u might be surprised to see how much he can make with ur life. i'll tell u this...God is the ONE thing in my life that is always there, he is always forgiving, he never forgets me and he never forsakes me, God is perfect and he loves all of us beyond measure. He honestly sent his son to die so that if we believed in him we would have the chance for eternal life. if u don't understand why he would have someone die for us i think it is to prove just how important we are to him. and while alot of religions worship dead Gods my God is still living. know this, when judgement day comes i hope to kneel at the Lord's feet and be able to say that i truly have loved him and served him with all of my heart, mind, spirit, and body and i hope u will be there on judgement day too.
God loves u,
Godzgurl
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I think you need to post out your doubts and questions in here so your unconsious behaviour can be replaced with the wisdome that you seek.
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Living_4_Eternity
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There is a God! If there wasn't a God then why would we be put on this earth. Notice that christianity is the belief that is looked down on the most. Why?....because it's right. I believe that in this world people don't want to take the obvious, right choices. Heaven is real, Hell is real. In Heaven you spend eternity with your family and friends and worship God. In Hell you burn for life on your own. It isn't a burn like burns on earth. It's much worse. It hurts me to say that because I know there are some of my friends and family out there that are gonna be there some day if they don't change their ways and I can't do anything about it cause I have done all that I can. It makes me speechless. Just know that I am praying for you that God can open your eyes and you can see the path that you need to take. God Bless You!
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Harlan Norris
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I'm a Christian, I believe that God created all. Yes, Satan is part of Gods creation. But Satan is controled by God just as we all are, He can do nothing that God does not allow. I don't claim to know or understand why God does all that he does. However it seems to me that our purpose here is to find God, accept the gift of salvation offered by Jesus Christ, and then live our life according to Gods will. Your presence on this blog indicates that you are a seeker. Seek and ye shall find. I will pray for you, There's really nothing more exiting than hearing of a new soul that has found Christ.
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If you believe in Satan, you must believe in God.
You also must know that Satan has already lost the war he started. It is (thankfully) the losing side.
You also must know that Satan has already lost the war he started. It is (thankfully) the losing side.
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The fact that you are asking indicates that God is reaching out to you. God is the only one that can draw us to Him. If deep down there wasn't a part of you trying to reach out to God (whom you said you don't belief exists) why would you ask for the truth or for someone to guide you in His ways?
Your username is forgotten1 - you need to know that God has not forgotten you. He loves you. He loves you so much that He had His one and only son Jesus to die for you so that you may live. He knew you before He created you.
God doesn't expect you to love Him first, none of us that have come to know Him come on our own. He had to allow our situations to cause us to look up to the hills where our help comes from.
God's love will never fail you. Satan however, seeks whom he may devour. His goal is to kill, steal and destroy you. Don't allow him to deceive you and rob you from the blessings God has for you.
Dear Heavenly Father,
I pray in the name of Jesus that this child of yours will be reconciled to you. I trust you Lord and believe that you will save this precious soul. I praise you in advance for their salvation. I disallow the enemy deceit tactics any longer in their life. I decree and declare that their eyes will be open to Your truth. I plead the blood of Jesus over them from the crown of their head to the souls of their feet. I seal this prayer in the name of Jesus. AMEN!!!
Start reading the bible for the truth. God will reveal Himself to you and you will come to know Him. While you are going through this seeking time be very careful in whom you tell. Everyone will not have your best interest at heart and the enemy can use "anyone" to lie to you to keep you from knowing the truth.
The enemy doesn't just want you dead - he wants you dead and separated from Jesus.
Your username is forgotten1 - you need to know that God has not forgotten you. He loves you. He loves you so much that He had His one and only son Jesus to die for you so that you may live. He knew you before He created you.
God doesn't expect you to love Him first, none of us that have come to know Him come on our own. He had to allow our situations to cause us to look up to the hills where our help comes from.
God's love will never fail you. Satan however, seeks whom he may devour. His goal is to kill, steal and destroy you. Don't allow him to deceive you and rob you from the blessings God has for you.
Dear Heavenly Father,
I pray in the name of Jesus that this child of yours will be reconciled to you. I trust you Lord and believe that you will save this precious soul. I praise you in advance for their salvation. I disallow the enemy deceit tactics any longer in their life. I decree and declare that their eyes will be open to Your truth. I plead the blood of Jesus over them from the crown of their head to the souls of their feet. I seal this prayer in the name of Jesus. AMEN!!!
Start reading the bible for the truth. God will reveal Himself to you and you will come to know Him. While you are going through this seeking time be very careful in whom you tell. Everyone will not have your best interest at heart and the enemy can use "anyone" to lie to you to keep you from knowing the truth.
The enemy doesn't just want you dead - he wants you dead and separated from Jesus.
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ALIOSIAS
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Why don't you try a life in Jesus Christ instead of all those phony powerless things that will only lead you to despair, depression, dejection, and finally death.
If you want true freedom Christ is the answer. If you want true peace - Christ is the answer. If you want to live a supernatural life - Christ is the answer.
If you would like more info on Jesus please contact me through the forum.
Aliosias
If you want true freedom Christ is the answer. If you want true peace - Christ is the answer. If you want to live a supernatural life - Christ is the answer.
If you would like more info on Jesus please contact me through the forum.
Aliosias
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