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I don't recall saying that all life is precious to God. What I did say is that all human beings are created in the Image of God and possess inherent moral worth and value.So, your argument that all life is precious to God doesn't stand up to Biblical truth in light of the above.
Yes, God, the Creator and author of the universe did do this. It is in His authority to do what He wants with His creation. Do you disagree? If you do, how do you as a Christian personally reconcile what God did by killing the firstborn?1) God killed all the firstborn of Egypt. If all people are created by God and precious to Him, how do you explain this mass murder of children?
Sure, God permitted that in the same way that God "permits" anyone on the planet to kill another human being. Are you suggesting that because God permits people to perform immoral acts that God doesn't care about us as His creation? How do you even live as a Christian if you believe that?2) God permitted Herod to kill all the firstborn males 2 years of age and younger. If every life is precious, why did God allow this to happen?
He sure did, I believe it was as punishment. What is the connection between that and abortion? Is abortion somehow punishment?3) God let the first generation that left Egypt die in the wilderness without reaching the land promised to them
A lot of Christians have been martyred for their faith. Is it your position that God ought to prevent all Christians from being martyred? Are you suggesting that God should intervene and stop abortions?3) Stephen was martyred; why didn't God prevent this from happening? Others were also killed for their faith in a similar fashion.
You bring up a lot of things that pretty much have nothing to do with abortion. Abortion is an act whereby a person, who is not God, is making the purposeful and intentional choice to kill another human being who has done no wrong. This is not analogous to anything you said above.
Again, the distinction between a human being and a human person is made up. It doesn't actually exist. You're stating that there is no "personhood" in a fertilized egg is meaningless. A fertilized egg is a human being, created in the image God, possessing inherent moral worth and value.There is no personhood in a fertilized egg or embryo. It's a vessel of clay (speaking metaphorically) that one day may contain a person.
There is nothing in Scripture to indicate there is a different between a human being and a human person and that only human person's are created in the Image of God and posses inherent moral worth and value.
If you believe there is an actual distinction between human beings and human persons and that human beings are not morally valuable, then by all means, present an objective argument that supports such a notion. To date, I have yet to see one.
Sure there are. That's what we use Biblical principles for. And that's not wrong. We can rightly and confidently say that the 98.5% of abortions that are performed for convenience sake are immoral because these abortions are the intentional and purposeful killing of innocent human beings.There are no bible verses to present as proof.
Where in Scripture does God give the individual person such authority? You won't find it. You won't find anything in Scripture that supports the notion that an individual person can rightly kill another human being who has done them no wrong.
Scripture is clear that all human beings are morally valuable as they are created in the Image of God.
The only way you can justify abortion is by subjectively and arbitrarily fabricating a distinction between a human being and a human person, and then asserting that only human persons are morally valuable.
Truth is Truth regardless of how many people believe it. I don't expect to convince any non-Christian that abortion is immoral. I never have.Even arguments based on bible verses are irrelevant when taking into consideration culture as a whole since Christians are in the minority and becoming even more of a minority, and thus most people don't even care what the bible supposedly says about anything, so you're not going to convince non-Christians unless you come up with reasonable arguments that aren't based on religion or personal opinion.
If I wasn't a Christian, I wouldn't think abortion was immoral. If God didn't exist, then objective morals wouldn't exist. If God didn't exist, the human beings wouldn't be inherently morally valuable.
However, as Christians, you and I know something the world doesn't - we know that God exists, we know that humans are created in His Image, and we know that God considers all of us morally valuable. Why then are you playing along with the world?
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