I have this feeling I should obey this

[Aaron112]

Actually I decided it is not right to trust man I am just tired of being alone that I want to be part of a church to fulfill all and I did not want to stumble others to seem not trustworthy if I seem not to be able to know enough but I think I do know enough and I think others should receive Christ as a Lord and saviour to trust only in Christ that it is right I believe to trust only in Christ that He is sufficient and leave judgement of others to Christ.

I've never been alone since becoming one , echad, with Jesus and the Father.
It makes no difference how many if any people are around, in the same room or even in the same city,
likewise fellow followers of Yahshua who are abiding in Him - we are never alone. He will never, no not ever, never forsake us nor leave us as orphans.

So it is as you say not right to trust man. Being tired of being alone is 'normal'.

Seek to be a part, to be a living stone, to be carried by Yahweh , in line with all Scripture , His Plan, and HIs Purpose for you.
If you fail, if you trust flesh/ man/ mankind, Yahweh curses.
But not permanently , not yet..... Yahshua, Jesus says to His Listeners - Turn To Yahweh Elohim, the Creator, for His Kingdom is <now> at hand. Right here, Right now.
Never be alone again.
And don't be cursed at all by trusting man/men/flesh.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I decided it not right to support divisions as are not helpful that should support what is good that all be ready. As I have shown that church is not practical all are required to follow Christ to have relationship with Christ so if follow church should not stumble others with making that any work is important that is not possible to point all to Christ not to teach that person is at risk for not seeing a priest earlier to know but only to follow what one knows.

For Peter time the end of all things was that there was widespread punishment for those who were not repenting then as it is so in every generation for peter explains do not count the Lord slack in His promise for with the Lord one day is as thousand years.

1 Peter 4:7-11
7 But the end of all things is at hand; therefore be serious and watchful in your
prayers. 8 And above all things have fervent love for one another, for “love will cover a multitude of sins.” 9 Be hospitable to one another without grumbling. 10 As each one has received a gift, minister it to one another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God. 11 If anyone speaks, let him speak as the oracles of God. If anyone ministers, let him do it as with the ability which God supplies, that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belong the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.

 

[mikeforjesus]

Actually I decided it is not right to support any other churches because they also do make divisions and there could be a reason that they know there is truth that they don’t want to admit though I did still want to not make divisions to trust if others would seek to make peace in offenses but they convince me otherwise by their actions that doctrine matters and anyway was mistake to seek to compromise beliefs if I don’t know is true that I think it may be necessary according to scripture to receive Christ as Lord and saviour to trust in His work so others should and leave judgement to Christ and we can pray if christ will show all Christian’s can be saved. We should all be United in the truth of only Christ as we do not know and leave judgement of other Christian’s to Christ and we should just pray if Christ supports other Christian’s with their beliefs.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I don’t know why there is divisions I do not think it is valid that it is just interpreted differently that it does not mean others are disqualified by Roman’s for it meant Old Testament law I think because such did require perfection but church does not believe needs perfection. I don’t think there should be divisions but since there are I decided I would follow Catholic Church and I think orthodox should too for they lose nothing to leave to judgement of God to just reject heresy as they can serve in their church and when Rome communicates with them can help them. That they can still practice sacraments in their churches.

 

[mikeforjesus]

As much as I want to follow church because want to prove it does not know better it is not right to risk when something may not be true and it is right to trust only in Christ that should do that bible says to do that to trust only in God to lead which one is only responsible for what facts one knows. As much as I want to I should not teach wrong to make others risk loss of salvation that I believe people trust should be only in Christ and leave judgement of other Christian’s to Christ and pray if Christ shows all Christian’s can be saved to ensure to be saved and to be raptured if there is.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I could follow below but I will not that I think orthodox does not preach gospel message correct to trust only in Christ to be safe and leave judgement of others to Christ for I believe bible teaches trust in Christ is sufficient that one is only responsible to follow another path if Christ has shown for sure. That I believe people should not risk for bible contains truth that they should leave judgement of others to Christ for their salvation is at stake.

I believe the true church is biblical though I don’t believe it right to support divisions but since there are I decided to follow Orthodox Church that is better to teach to be safe the first fathers of whom ireneus may or may not be for Orthodox Church but history shows orthodox maintained its succession for the bible shows none of the apostles were considered greater in any manner to have position as though to teach Jesus said call no one on earth your teacher that the church was guided into all truth together. They act only to help to give sacraments and guidance from their experience.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I believe anyway it is wrong to support divisions that I should trust Christ not to support even any church. If others are worried they can do so to emphasise importance of following Christ and we should be united in the cause as picture I showed before shows that Satan may not take advantage of us. If others are worried they can follow what they think is right.

I believe actually that it may be though I don’t know but it may be so one should to sell all he has if he is Christian to follow Christ to ask God for daily bread to trust Christ to grant help through a church or a Christian through those who did so or through those who did not but they ought to do so if they are willing to provide all needs and if they find Christ does not support all needs then know one should work for money. That church should provide opportunities to help others to train them to work in positions as volunteer for community and church to provide their needs for food and shelter for work and if they do not they know they need to work for money from themselves.

For one still provides for family through church but if they are not getting help to work and not asking for much for if you have you can give to children not to force though they should what they need but rest to poor but it is to see God provision if He does for yourself.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I was going to follow above but I believe this is more right to be safer.

I believe actually it is not right to take risk that is important that person receives Christ as Lord and saviour to not put trust because of a work as there is none righteous that bible says we are justified freely so should not trust because you did a work but works are fruits of repentance if you can do for if you don’t do when you can faith is dead.

Works come as a result of salvation if it is true if you could but one is saved by faith now that one trust is in Christ to be justified not a work that you did before only without works that are needed now that you can do faith is dead. So I believe all should put their trust in Christ alone to ensure to be saved and to be raptured if there is and leave judgement of other Christian’s to Christ and pray if Christ shows all Christian’s can be saved.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I believe rather I should not promote what is wrong that people do not seek to work if they can as is not scriptural that people should work but if they have not found job should help one needs as bible says to do in Deuteronomy 15:7-8 below says and to help one find work.

Also I do not believe I should support divisions but we should be united to benefit from any church that teaches the word of God to help all so Satan does not take advantage of us in making our witness less stronger for world seeing we are serious and for those in church not serious though they ought to be.

If others want they can follow any church or bible belief that they believe is most accurate that as long as it conforms to bible is good. People who are rich must be rich in good works willing to share so safest way is to sell all you don’t need to poor though should provide enough for kids.

I believe person can be rich but there is risk that you are tempted to keep more than what is right for love of money as bible says to whom is given much much is required.

Deuteronomy 15:7-8
7 “If there is among you a poor man of your brethren, within any of the gates in your land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart nor shut your hand from your poor brother, 8 but you shall open your hand wide to him and willingly lend him sufficient for his need, whatever he needs.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I believe it is not right to take risk as it seems most biblical that the wages of sin is death but salvation is a gift of God that you can not trust in any work done before it is only the fruit of salvation if you truly received Christ as there may not be opportunity to be saved later through faith. So I believe all Christian’s should receive Christ as Lord and saviour and leave judgement of other Christians to Christ. Perhaps if we pray Christ will show all Christians can be saved.

I was concerned to stumble others but I believe now others should understand as may be our only hope. I also do not believe you need to do works such as to have done works before in being rich in good works you only need to repent that you would intend to as then not everyone can be saved but one is saved if he intends to repent but one should as he may not get opportunity to repent later to call to Christ when one is not seeking to.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I do not believe it is right to support divisions so I will not. I believe Orthodox Church is true church or a true church that all that have apostolic succession might be though those who teach divisions now are wrong. I do not follow those fathers that make divisions but that the way to be saved on death might be found only within the Orthodox Church. For I believe the first apostolic bishops represented the Orthodox Church or may be generally church of east is true church.

For I don’t know if any historical records of first bishops has evidence for but they had to have that God allowed it removed so there is no divisions in church and divisions if they make now are wrong and may not have supported divisions but others did and I follow saints who did not such as St John climacus.You need to do all God commandments to be saved on death but you can still be saved if you repent to do what is possible.

 

[Aussie Pete]

I think I should join the Orthodox Church and accept it may be the only true church or it could not be but said out of politics recently to make people believe in the church because if others convert to the Catholic Church while there is politics of them not accepting others they may think others are not saved

But it could be the only true church and I seek to be convinced by joining if God can confirm it is the only true church or if it can convince Catholic is too just to feel the presence of God and maybe I will see proofs otherwise I just have to assume it could be only true church. I could also visit the Catholic Church to be convinced of it

It could be there is salvation outside but we have to assume you need the church and it is for me to know more fully

The true church is only those who are born again. All denominations are man-made, including protestant and catholic traditions. If you are born again then you are in the true church. You can no more "join" than you could "join" your own family.

 

[mikeforjesus]

Thankyou for your care but I dont agree if you mean only those who teach an idea that takes away from some words of gospel that I do not believe God would accept to be cruel to those of good nature who believe for bible teaches blessed are the meek and blessed are those who mourn knowing God cares for those who loved Him not knowing for sure and unless one becomes as children he will not enter kingdom as God says let not people boast in their wisdom. It was the Pharisees who were dogmatic and acting as adults having knowledge and God said I praise you Father that you have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and says let him who boasts boast in that He knows me exercising kindness and justice for all who believe gospel to come to understand Christ death is needed to save them I believe are born again.

 

[Aussie Pete]

I do not believe it is right to support divisions so I will not. I believe Orthodox Church is true church or a true church that all that have apostolic succession might be though those who teach divisions now are wrong. I do not follow those fathers that make divisions but that the way to be saved on death might be found only within the Orthodox Church. For I believe the first apostolic bishops represented the Orthodox Church and may not have supported divisions but others did and I follow saints who did not such as St John climacus.You need to do all God commandments to be saved on death but you can still be saved if you repent to do what is possible.

If you are not saved in this life, then you are not saved when you die. We become children of God by receiving Christ as Saviour and Lord. The only authority we have is the word of God, not the word of men or their traditions.

John 1:12 & 13
But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God — children born not of blood, nor of the desire or will of man, but born of God.

The only obedience required for salvation is to receive Christ. Everything else follows from that. You can obey all the commandments, like the Pharisees in Jesus' day, and still be rejected by God. And the reality is that no one can keep God's commandments perfectly. All sin and fall short of God's glory. If we could obey perfectly, Jesus need not have died and risen again for us.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I believe you are severely mistaken that people who accept Christ as Saviour and Lord and follow Christ but are in church can not be saved is dishonoring God for who He is. The devil is author of division in the house of God and Jesus prayed for unity for a house divided will not stand to help witness to others care and seriousness.

 

[Aussie Pete]

I believe you are severely mistaken dishonoring God for who He is. The devil is authors of division in the house of God and Jesus prayed for unity for a house divided will not stand to help witness to others care and seriousness.

Who are you responding to?

 

[mikeforjesus]

Ofcourse you that I thought you should know. I am not saying you are devil but that you have been misled by doctrines of man created in response to church making divisions in beginning which was authored by Satan for even if early church did not have intention for divisions others may have so they created it in response. You will say it is word of God and seems to be but it is not really that there are good church people who don’t believe in requirement to be perfect but that they need Christ.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I do believe rather is mistake to speak for God when there is divisions that all should receive Christ as Lord and saviour since it seems to be most accurate and claims to be true to ensure to be saved and to be raptured if there is and leave judgement of other Christian’s to Christ and pray if Christ shows all Christian’s can be saved.

For I watched below video and though didn’t like it to post not to make divisions it is not right to risk people souls incase it is true so people should accept and can pray for Christ to show all Christian’s can be saved.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=629469262464455

 

[mikeforjesus]

It is better to visit churches so can not claim I hinder others from any benefit or that it seems it knows and I was contacted by a kind priest that has good intention not to support divisions so may just visit to attend churches just to witness in showing care through that it does not know better from tradition that others can not explain anyway also who study that need not church also by attending to reveal secrets.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I decided to follow Orthodox Church as I don’t think there should be divisions but there we’re in history so to be safe to follow that Protestants do wrong to fight church when can’t know for sure for what they say may seem right yet it could still be as others say that God did not definitely allow to say church believers is not saved through history to prove.For Protestants are wrong to say works dont need to be done if can just that we do it because we want to but dont have to.

The bible says pray for one another For as video before showed Catholics are leaving because of this said.I believe it could be Catholic Church is right only if it did not judge orthodox that pope was only to help confirm true doctrine a helper to say what orthodox say is right but they don’t follow that now and I can’t be sure so I follow Orthodox Church. And I will seek the Lord if He will show me truth as bible says if you search for me with all your heart you will find me.

Ofcourse is wrong to teach you need the saints prayers I don’t think true orthodox teach that though I think it has crept into church now by some that you do but it helps if you are not seeking God yourself just as bible says pray for each other.We can’t say confession is that person is another mediator it is allowing Christ to mediate if you seek to obey just as obeying command of baptism.