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I think actually one should not take risk that person should receive christ as Lord and saviour to follow the below though I did not want to preach because others may think I hinder people from being baptised in orthodox or catholic church with true baptism if parents dont accept faith but we ought to trust in christ only that He is sufficient being satisfied with one faith in christ and will to good as is right as is not right for belief to matter if wills to good that it is not just it is not based on the scriptures belief that trusting in any need for a law before is necessary that cant be saved even if can not do or a perfect obedience of a law as we all still will not reach perfection can not save that God offers salvation and assurance to all to ensure to be ready if christ comes at any time. I will follow this to be baptised if makes change but afterwards trust God not to support divisions if does not.

As I shared to a pastor who will baptise me that we must receive christ as Lord and saviour because we will never be without sin that our trust must be only in christ finished work to be justified and saved now because we always have sin but afterwards we must seek to do what is possible only even to be baptised as I thought would give more assurance if my baptism is done by one who accepts christ as Lord and saviour

I believe now it is not right to risk one salvation. Jesus said we must worship in Spirit and truth. Though I feel offended that some judge me still others may not and may teach the truth as it seems it could be biblical. As bible says if we keep the whole law and stumble in one point we are guilty of all so we must put our trust in christ finished work to receive christ as saviour because we need to believe in His righteousness to cover us at all times and not just when we are at church so we must receive His sacrifice personally to be our righteousness for all time.

For as ours is never good enough having sin though we must obey Him to do what is possible incase one dies without opportunity to call on the Lord and since not know when one dies even if cant do work because of time must seek to do though we will never be perfect without sin for Him to be Lord. Therefore I believe all should receive christ as Lord and saviour as others have said incase and to be raptured and because it is right as should be concerned for all to know christ and leave judgement of other christians to christ.

I did before say that we should not go to church but it is not profitable that way but should support the work of churches but seek to encourage them to receive christ as Lord and saviour.
 
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I got baptised today in a church which only follows the bible.The bible says the natural man can not receive the things of the Spirit as they are spiritually discerned. And we compare spiritual with spiritual. If I have not yet received the Holy Spirit before I should notice some changes I know I did not have before either in my spirit to assure me or to understand scripture on my own or receive a word from God when read scripture that others are not able. I do not yet notice any huge changes but have not yet read scripture but if others can do it means they have Holy Spirit too. I did feel a bit calmer after baptism but I cant tell yet if that is from the baptism or from having achieved my goal to be a placebo affect. Time will tell if there is difference.
 
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I believe now that we are not saved by works but saving faith will not come alone that if true it will come with a work when you believe so it will always have some type of work whatever the work even if just to accept the message of christ from another believer and to accept others which are to do with repentance that are fruits not considered a work that matthew 25 is not about works saving just that works are involved in seeking to come to faith for some. The parable of the good samartian did not mean that person needs to be saved by works to do good to one in need that was just what christ says one should do if you want to be as good as good samaritan and maybe to be saved on death.

So I believe people should put trust in the finished work of christ and still do works to be saved on death to be safe only God knows if other christians are saved. It cant be based on works because you can never judge if person sought to do enough. We can only expect severe tribulation if we do not preach this to others to only care about ourselves that we may change our mind in the future.

The only work one must do is confess you are christian to who you can which is not considered a work as though your own works make you worthy incase you die while not seekng to to not chance to just call on christ. For bible says if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead you will be saved.Repentance of sin is required not considered a work that needs time to do just that if you dont you may die when you are planning to sin or while in sin before repenting.

Billy graham seems to be saying after you are saved you must do works but I think he just means to testify for other videos he says we are saved apart from works but even if he believes you need to I believe the gospel teaches dont need to because any can be saved and cant judge if anyone make enough effort to do work.

The passage from peter about making your call and election sure by works I believe threfore is just to be saved on death.

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Romans 3:27-28
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.

Galatians 3:10-14
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.” 11 But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.” 12 Yet the law is not of faith, but “the man who does them shall live by them.”
13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”), 14 that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

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I did say so as I am concerned for others because of not true one can ever be sure one has done enough but I think it is right to trust God not to judge if think need to do works for the sake of the gospel to be safe I assume one should only receive christ as Lord and saviour to ensure to be ready and to seek to do works afterward which I dont think baptism is necessary to seek but if worried can be and only to seek to do what there is if someone needs help to try to do and even if not true that works are not necessary christ will accept.
 
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I do believe now it is right to trust in God justice that we should be united as christians for the sake of testifying to Jesus that if any one wants to follow a church if he thinks it may help to bring one closer to christ I should not stand in the way and I should be part of any church to have chance to seek to edify others to live to serve and help glorify christ for gospel even if they preach church beliefs.
 
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Im not fooled by others most people among the world and christians are apostates because they reject christ which they knew about which they reject which there is no excusable reason to be without cause and dont behave as christians to judge others and never show them charity such as rejecting people wanting to marry so I decided I will focus on seeking to pursue to prove truth for sure that I will be catechumen in catholic church to accept it according to what it teaches which must be practical for bible says everyone can be saved but I dont know what must be done that I assume must seek to make effort to see priest for last rites that I dont know how much effort ia required maybe they know or God knows what effort is made enough effort though to assume must make as much as possible.

Or may not be actual catholic teaching a new invention that may need to arrange to see priest to be instructed to be regarded as catechumen seek to join classes to find wherever there are to join as soon as possible that I assume which effort needed same I consider as said for last rites but it may be accepting catholic faith is enough that I may learn later but I dont know and I may learn later catholic church is just the fullness without requiring to seek to join if heard about or or accepting the faith that when I am chrismated I will know the way to teach others how to be perfected but I dont know so I assume am being chrismated to accept catholic faith. But after being baptised and chrismated if not notice change will not accept.

I will still preach christ for if people dont want it they can accept the church and I will go to other churches just to see if helps prove and for fellowship yet still seek to join catholic church to preach it to to be safe though afterward if not proven not support divisions for christ for I preach it for I believe christ understands if person does not know the truth for sure if church is wrong.
 
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I believe there is risk in seeking to get married that it is easier for the sake of one salvation only to pursue christ because it is not guaranteed to get to marry and there may be risk in pursuing it to lose your soul but if one is already married they are not at risk but there was risk so one should only marry without seeking it is the safest way and I decided to not focus on marriage but I decided I will follow the orthodox church to accept it as the safest way but still visit other churches if they can prove only need christ but preach to them I think should follow orthodox church but I will still preach only christ with others because I will just be as another who preaches and if they know otherwise from others they can follow church and I am just accepting orthodox church to be safe which others knowing my view they can follow but otherwise must accept from others and to test but if no difference to preach only christ.

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I decided to follow orthodox church to accept its beliefs to test it though everyone can be saved even if not baptised if they were making all effort possible to be baptised I will assume incase that is position but it may be otherwise and maybe just if they desire to join church if cant find church service near them at a certain time but if so maybe any effort or most to seek to join to go to all churches that can help and do when one allows one to that perhaps I will learn later that anyone who desires can join if no church service near by and if there is that making effort not little but not need as most as possible or that desire to join even if can make effort is enough but I am just going to test it for a while otherwise I will not accept.

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"Christianity is a religion of asceticism: If anyone loves the world he is not of the Father. It is a religion which says: No one can serve two masters: God and money, or God and the world"
Pope Shenouda

The bible says we can not serve God and mammon and not to lay up treasure on earth but says having food and clothing we shall be content and implies in clothing all other needs met such as medical but it may be if you want to be saved it may be to be safe you should not have extra money that it is only for the rich to give to poor but everyone should just be content with food and clothing as Paul says. I shall follow this until I know better. It is only necessary to live such from now on even if you cant sell all and doing what you can if you are rich to be rich in good works with your possesions but since you may die still laying up much treasure should find a charity that helps support all people in need but if you cant and just call on the Lord you can be saved but you have to seek to do what is possible so if you die while seeking you are saved and if you dont die it will be done to atleast deposit to bankers if you havent already helped enough people and you may not get chance to so should do now. Also bible says not to worry about tommorow meaning if you have enough for your needs now do not worry about tommorow meaning God will supply either through others or to give work.
 
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I believe actually is not wrong to be rich as Abraham and Job was but it must not replace that you have relationship with God but you must give tithe as they did thereby making friends of unrighteous mammon as is not wrong to store for future. For one may want to save so he may help whoever he feels needs help. To not worry for tommorow means not that you cant save for future as also may need for medical bills tommorow not just for needs now and so you can help others but that you trust God if you seek first the kingdom to serve Him you dont have to be worried doing so instead of spending all your time seeking a job to depend only on yourself to be considered worrying where work will come that He will show you to give you a job opportunity if you serve Him though you must still seek but you have to work.

But if others are worried they can give money to charity that God can still accept any in any condition they are if they lost money but they wont be able to help many in need. But such to say must sell all is wrong if one has earthly goals such as as may get married in future and want to spend money such as for dentist that no one judges one for looking like one not looking after oneself but if one does not care for such does not have to worry. By saying not to lay up treasure on earth I believe Jesus means only if you live to do that only so that there is no room that it replaces your relationship with God and seeking to please Him by your life. But since I dont know if my belief is different to church does not mean church may not benefit me if it is real as sacraments are means to help people to being righteous not for those who already are to help guide one to knowing what is right according to the church.
 
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I decided not to follow orthodox church as is more important to make disciples that is up to them if they want to follow church that I should spend my time sharing the news of Jesus and they can spend time in His word to grow and there are many resources that are available to help one have understanding that focus should be on that.
 
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I decided it is not right to give up on what is good to want to marry or to condemn others for seeking it but it should not consume one and I decided for myself I will focus on God and goals to serve Him mainly so that it does not consume me and it should come natural that not forcing something not natural I mean not seeking to try among people who dont even appear open to other people.
 
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As much as I want to make disciples I can do but I decided to follow orthodox church to test sacraments if will help strengthen my faith though I believe but was struggling with a passage in scripture where Jesus is persecuted for saying He is God in John 10:31-38 where His answer may be hard to understand if seem to say only that He claims to be just like a god being different being than God the Father but I believe I understand now but to have better understanding but scripture is clear that He teaches He is God being the first and the last but I want to go to church if can prove to have better understanding. He is clearly equal to the Father being the first and the last so must be same being as there can only be one God that there can only be 1 God that is first.

To be simplistic and explain shorter the point is that since the word of God came to them that gave them power and called them gods because by giving that power they are representing Him according to the title that God gives that is appropriate. In the same manner it is fitting more for whom the Father sanctified and sent being the Son of God as He is that part of Him begotten coming from Him to be accepted as God to be regarded for who He is special as they because of works and to be believed by Him because of His works that only God can do that He is who He says He is.
 
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I can not yet determine if church will help as I did have communion without having gone to confession and I did notice some change as though something was lifted from me but it could be just the day was nicer that God blessed the day from a nice time spending in church to be quieter for a time but I did not feel any change yet to strengthen my faith so I may need to go to church to have confession but I think this change may happen in any church which celebrates communion as real body and blood and still I believe faith in christ is sufficient that what is more important is one walk with christ which I did not notice communion makes me feel it is absolutely needed in walking the path of christ to ever be saved but just to be purified I think to be saved on death.
 
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I decided I should trust God that it is wrong to support injustice of divisions to trust Him to strengthen my faith without church and that I have enough and trust Him to keep it but even if not otherwise to accept by choosing to trust even with some doubt as still can have some faith even without answers to all as need not answer to all for can accept there is answer I dont know for there is other scripture affirming His divinity that He is first and last and I will preach Him. But if others are worried they can follow the church but I should focus only on christ and growing with His word to do more and I will go to any church just to help to do more and to have communion in church if they allow otherwise to find another church that has communion.
 
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I dont believe we are saved by works we are His workmanship for good works that we should do. The gospel should be preached to all that it is a free gift. If others want they can seek to do works but I believe one is saved just by confessing Jesus as Lord before men and believe in your heart He was raised from the dead you will be saved with repentance of all sin is safe though some may be not counted as leads to death that is to have any measure of faith to put trust which all have but even then it says whoever calls on the Lord will be saved so it is sufficient if cant confess the Lord but you have to seek to do and you can die while not seeking. Works may be needed to do to enter the kingdom on death such as to preach the gospel and seek to use all your talents but it is just being a profitable servant that is required for salvation by accepting the gospel is depositing money with the bankers by not hiding that you believe that what others say is true and not repenting of that from your heart.
 
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I decided to be safe should teach works may be necessary only that which you are able to do at any time if someone is in need and it may be no one may help them and you can to save a life one must seek to but it may not be required that christ will accept. But the important thing is to preach the gospel that if there is no one that is possible to help not within your ability Christ will accept you that you must only seek to help if there is a need because you must seek to do what is possible and if you were truly seeking and there is time it will be done but if you die before it being done you will be saved if you seek to but you may die without having opportunity to seek to so should do it but it is still helpful that I will say that I think others should say I think it is that you may be saved apart from works so should accept but to be to be safe not to depend on it since dont know to seek to do works.
 
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I believe judgement should be left to Christ to know but we should seek to obey all christ commandments that are essential such as to not to serve God and mammon and to preach gospel that we should be content with our needs being met daily and seek to give away if we are rich most money and seek in the process to give away as most possesions as we can even if we dont succeed to give away most but we are trying to give away all we dont need but is impossible to do both at same time to give money and sell possesions so only need to seek to give money first and it may be sufficient but incase to give possesions more than need now too so we have such enough for our needs food and clothing including medical care to trust christ to provide needs through work or is others responsibility.

For we should not risk to be comfortable in this world even having perfect teeth that should not risk that is not worth risking salvation of soul because of earthly goals but just to seek one to accept one as they are but can work anyway until such need is met because good dental health is necessary for your health and God wants one to be whole for the sake of serving Him better and it is ok to have riches if it is used for serving God Jesus said after seeking first the kingdom of God that you are not worrying about needs you dont have now meaning worry about tommorow and church should help one with needs and and should preach gospel to others to surrender all though preach dont know it may be all saved anyway through faith without works but to do incase. Everyone must seek to but those who die in accidents or persecution are special case that I believe God gives them more chance in world to come.
 
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