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I believe it important to preach though I can’t say I know for sure orthodox is true but I am following as I think it is just to I will preach from the tracts but say I don’t know church is true so can follow how Tract says if you don’t know but I am following church incase and to find out that I think should be fair though I don’t know that one can be saved if he accepts the faith of the church if he can’t be baptised but should be baptised because he may die while he is not seeking to repent calling on the Lord.

If one does not know what church is true can become catholic if he was not orthodox unless he knows for sure orthodox is true then can become orthodox for though orthodox seem to have saints that belong to them like St Mary the Egyptian and St Mina in early church Catholic also claim they belong to them but cant know does not seem so and does not prove catholic is not true if from early fathers but they came after and they have their own saints some early church fathers and some other saints others need not be mentioned. But I will not say all that but put a link to learn more about me and what I understand.
 
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I thought it is still good that I should seek to be chrismated in Catholic Church just to test to tell others if they need it only wanted to follow church if it will help but they don’t even reply and I decided it is right to trust only in Christ I suppose one does not need to that I am only going to prove it is not true but I believe God is just that you can trust in only Him that it is safest to I was only going to prove for others because I think God will understand that I may live longer but I will not if they don’t ensure to look for me that if they were from God they would but I decided to only trust in Christ unless I see them fully arrange what I want that I believe it is safest for all to trust in Christ alone and leave judgment of other Christian’s to Christ.
 
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I don’t believe baptism is essential if change does not happen that let’s you to know it is essential but I want to be baptised incase but others don’t need to it might not be salvation issue for even Greg Laurie son said Christian’s should be baptised after they believe to obey the bible but I don’t know if he thinks it necessary I don’t think it is that it is safe not to but I think I should to know if it affect.

I want a full water immersion dipped 3 times

to say do you believe in the Father the full Glory of God not known directly necessary to know to know God but you need to believe in Son

Do you believe in the Son the word of God and the image of the invisible God

and do you believe in the Holy Spirit that part of Him you can know when you see not the Son to let you know the Son

?
 
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I did contact and no response but now I realise is a mistake that I don’t want to be chrismated anymore anyway which I let them know that also since others are warned should tell all to be saved incase true that trust in Christ is sufficient

This video illustrates that rapture could happen any time

m.youtube.com/shorts/bBPzIDt2Ba0
 
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I did not want there to be divisions I think they may not be true but I decided to follow Catholic Church and I believe others should because God is just that would not judge if not proven for one to absolutely know. One does not need even to be baptised in Catholic Church according to it but just to be catechumen which I plan to be that I contacted Catholic parish and it is their responsibility for delaying chrismation.
 
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Knowing people they will try to make posts and make events to make me like bad person and world will do things to make it important to attend to to distract that I am bad if I seek to spend my time looking to find a church it being not right as just need to make some time needed to help others not all and perhaps people do something to make others sick to mock it and to make me like stupid and bad son.
 
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Facebook always suspends me or someone trying to get into account that I can not post

I decided I don’t care for divisions anymore that I trust God that churches do wrong try to put obstacles if anyone is worried he can trust church but I trust Christ justice

I will preach with tracts what evangelicals say but to say I do not support divisions that the message is true that if you don’t believe you can follow what church you want
 
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I decided to follow Catholic Church unfortunately people do not reach out enough to reply to provide answers

I know from below writings of church fathers that it would seem one can not know if he made enough effort to be Christian and Catholic priests and apologists may not reply soon to explain to give hope otherwise I don’t think is true for if they give people last rites I don’t see why they should not accept anyone just to accept the faith I suppose one was not accepted as Christian only referred to those who were enquirers who wanted to become Christian’s but have not yet believed. I don’t know if people will respond in time to say to judge person if maybe did not make enough effort if he dies but I will accept that he is accepted but one should join church to be a member

But I found this answer online

The Catholic Church teaches that those who accept the Catholic faith but die before being baptized as catechumens are considered to have a desire for baptism and are therefore able to receive the benefits of baptism. This is known as baptism of desire. The Catechism of the Catholic Church states that "Those who die for the faith, those who are catechumens, and all those who, without knowing of the Church but acting under the inspiration of grace, seek God sincerely and strive to fulfill his will, can be saved even if they have not been baptized" (CCC 1281). However, it is important to note that baptism is still considered the ordinary means of salvation and should not be neglected if possible.

II. The catechumens were divided into mere inquirers (audientes, akromeni) and catechumens properly so-called; and in each stage there was a three-fold preparation — catechetical, ascetical, and liturgical.
(1) If a pagan wished to become a Christian he was given some elementary instruction in the fundamental doctrines and practices of the Church (see CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE). He had to show by his conduct that he was in earnest about the step he was about to take. So far, he was only in the stage of inquiry, and was not counted as a Christian at all. He was allowed to be present at the first part of the Mass, but he was dismissed immediately after the sermon.
(2) As soon as his instructors were satisfied that he was likely to persevere, the inquirer was promoted to the rank of catechumen. He was now entitled to be called a Christian, though he was not looked upon as one of the "faithful". "Ask a man, 'Are you a Christian?' He answers, 'No', if he is a pagan or a Jew. But if he says 'Yes', ask him again, 'Are you a catechumen or one of the faithful?'" (St. Augustine, Tractate 44 on the Gospel of John, no. 2).


update: since after that post I am not able to access Facebook for now I think it is Facebook not someone trying to access my account
 
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I have contacted several times people who are responsible for Catholic inquiries and would like to know their response to think if it is reasonable but I decided I would just follow Orthodox Church that since we can’t know it is reasonable. I decided to follow church since if it will allow me to grow just to know to be safe though I think all Christian’s can be saved but to be safe since also I think God understands if can’t know if not true. However does not mean I think person must be orthodox if can’t know while can not know as God is just would accept people who we’re not orthodox to be catholic. And I think God might accept converts to catholic but don’t know.
 
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I have received this response to my question without an answer to say to prove from the teachings of the church one is accepted with desire to be Catholic no matter what effort that he is not judged if makes enough effort so I don’t see why one would consider it and I won’t even be Catholic if I can’t know for sure it is true it is their job as priests to prove it in places not us to go to them to prove as the apostles did whom jesus said I pray for those who have believed in Me through their word

Dear Michael,

Greetings in Christ on the Solemnity of the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus Christ.

Because of the great demand for our services, we regrettably are limited to answering one question per person within a several-week period.

In this regard, I encourage you anew to access our extensive website with its great search engine, which is available for use 24/7 with many helpful and free resources.

In addition, I encourage you to read the Catechism of the Catholic Church, whether your own copy or online, as the Catechism can also help answer many of your questions about the Church's teaching.

Finally, I urge you to be docile to the local Church leaders in your area (Heb. 13:8).

Take care and God bless you, Michael.

In Christ,

Tom,
 
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I decided I would not follow church that I believe Christ is sufficient though I thought it does not help to teach just Christ because may not seem convincing to some as not supported I think now it could be true convincing that others have warned need to trust in Christ to be saved and if there is rapture. Perhaps if we pray Christ will show all Christian’s can be saved.
I believe it is enough to trust in Christ alone to be baptised by Him in hearing true gospel that no need to seek baptism for God judged by true faith and one willingness to do good.
 
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I did send an email back to apologist and did send to chancery and other places so they are responsible not to give answer

Dear chancery

I did contact Catholic answers message box which I got reply that they can only answer 1 person once in several weeks and sent them this message but they did not answer my question and it will be common that they have to answer that Catholic Church is responsible that I would like an answer to know if person accepts the faith is he accepted and not judged by how much effort he makes that they do not know qualifies that only Christ does to go to church or receive last rights to be catechumen and to prove by church fathers. Such question is urgent that church is responsible for people to know.

Because Catholic Church excludes any that they are being saved now I believe it is not right and anyway I believe according to scripture Jesus is only teacher so safest to trust only Him incase others say is true to be saved and there is rapture

The message is below

But you could have provided answer I read catechism I don’t trust church teachings of the church one is accepted with desire to be Catholic no matter what effort that he is not judged if makes enough effort so I don’t see why one would consider it and I won’t even be Catholic if I can’t know for sure it is true it is their job as priests to prove it in places not us to go to them to prove as the apostles did whom jesus said I pray for those who have believed in Me through their word

I contacted but realise church is not true for fails to preach not seeming to accept anyone now

I decided I would not follow church that I believe Christ is sufficient though I thought it does not help to teach just Christ because may not seem convincing to some as not supported I think now it could be true convincing that others have warned need to trust in Christ to be saved and if there is rapture. I believe it is enough to trust in Christ alone to be baptised by Him in hearing true gospel that no need to seek baptism for God judged by true faith and one willingness to do good.
 
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Despite people making divisions I decided not to support it that should not make cause for offenses which don’t matter that should trust only in Christ and His words that others may not be distracted from offenses and focus on what matters to live for jesus to preach the gospel and live according to how He teaches. I think baptism and communion is not important for God looks at one will but I can not know so people should as Christ might have said so to leave judgment to Him knowing He is just. I will preach the main message explained well by evangelicals in tracts which I will say they can trust or follow a church if they want or just focus on Christ like me.
 
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I decided it is more profitable for me at this time as I am unbalanced to spend quiet time with the Lord and also try to find hobbies and also learn skills to work to serve to preach to others I can share some skills with or who I will work with that I should do that first as I find perhaps some people may be more receptive if I can talk to them but I will still do still as bible says preach in season and out of season.
 
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I don’t believe Christian’s should be divided but they are so I think should only do so for now unless shown better later.I decided I would follow Catholic Church that I believe because God is just a church would not be right if it judged people to be Catholic when they don’t know when they do not prove for it is right to accept the first fathers that they might be Catholic with their saints like St Ignatius and Polycarp and some early christians and some Catholics says Mary the Egyptian was Catholic and maybe St Mina but they don’t seem to be and they might be only Christian’s from their non Catholic tradition.

I don’t know if others are accepted if they didn’t make enough effort if you can judge I didn’t get a response but I will follow church just to be chrismated myself that I believe just to accept the faith a baptism by desire is enough that it could be if I find later it is not I won’t accept it.
 
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I was convicted by below post so I decided I should really focus on preaching the gospel that I will trust christ is enough but if others want can follow church instead of pursuing hobbies as first and should work but I must be preaching the gospel as bible says seek first the kingdom of God that I should preach Christ as person can die any day not ready that he should accept Christ that church may not be important but can join church too.

www.christianforums.com/threads/time-is-short-get-out-there.8277799/
 
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The below video was posted on Facebook that I thought it discourages preaching but I think is wrong though persons may be more effective if they also learn other skills to gain talents to serve to help preach gospel. I posted below which I think is right that I find people who share such views to hurt the cause of the gospel but she might mean preaching in church.

It is a sin to post this to discourage preaching though I liked this preacher and her intentions I think are good. I have seen this video before but is wrong to encourage bitterness and encouraging rebellion for people to oppose preachers to justify it when people reject only because they are wicked to reject because they are influenced by others to reject person their sin being wanting to please those who do wrong or hate person.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=D7fF91CQO_4
 
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From that video it seems people don’t support me and anyway it seems preaching wouldnt help for me that I believe it is still duty of all to preach but not to Preach what I do not show I am committed to that I will follow church for now though I think Christ is probably sufficient so they should accept Him but I will preach that I think so but to follow church incase that I will accept catholic church for now to test that they should accept me to be full member as I know faith or I will do as they say just to be catechumen which I ought to be accepted as because I intend to continue to accept the faith to join the church to become chrismated later though they are wrong and also to be part of a church to know how I may benefit more to be a servant.
 
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