I have this feeling I should obey this

[mikeforjesus]

I did my best but I am not sure God wants me to be other Christian. I am not sure they are sincere but will always be harsh that they reject me because they are against my background not to accept my beliefs that if God willed I would have found one that accepts me for who I am for I do not trust them if I need to earn as others did not that if it was God will someone would have shown interest so I decided I will just follow Orthodox Church and only seek after others if I believe God clearly showed me that they are trustworthy that they are true so I may be open to others for I am not sure to trust any now even if I find one.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I believe as bible says the way to follow christ is to judge not that you be not judged because if person does not know for sure if he does not know that he does not see clearly then it may not be truth not to judge that to follow christ if you dont know is not to judge which is how you take the plank out of your eye that that is the true way that if you dont know then it is not true which means you should not judge that that is truth to see clearly that helps others otherwise you would be able to know otherwise.

So I believe any Christian who judges anyone soul by their doctrine that died as though they know where they are if they judge incorrectly not correct according to God that it is not just according to Jesus words who alone judges correctly to know what truth people have been exposed to to accept or not does not follow the truth and is disobedient to jesus but will still be saved but not now for even person can teach what church teaches to allow them to make their decision if they believe but follow Christ alone to say one is convinced which one should for unity and for others not convinced though it does not change the way Christ said.

For the bible teaches that only God can give you spiritual life that you can only go to kingdom if you are born of Spirit to have personal relationship with Christ that person has heard gospel for himself to believe it to recognise that Christ is offering person who asks from Him to be born again to understand and to be born of water is for person to come across the preaching of the word to be enlightened by it and to be born of Spirit is to believe it to receive new birth from it to believe it but you need baptism and communion for forgiveness of sins to partake of Him to be saved on death.

The bible teaches to be born from God can not come from will of men for not to use another man to bring it about but that it comes from God from His will to draw men to Him to hear gospel which if they have proper knowledge of it that others may show if they receive He gives them new birth and Jesus said God is seeking people to worship in Spirit and truth that the Father is seeking such to worship Him to help others be United to lead others to do His will to be saved now.

I decided I will focus to preach that and leave it to others what they want to follow.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I decided I will go to church for fellowship and to have communion but I will not accept church doctrine that if God does not show me it is true I do not accept it as true.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I might as well accept the church to preach it though if not proven it seems it is not true. I will only accept it now incase that if others are worried they can too and to seek to go to church that if doing so they are repenting even if they don’t have chance to be baptised and to see if it can prove but if it does not prove it could not be true.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I decided I would follow Catholic Church but also go to Orthodox Church to learn if convinced.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I decided I would not follow church as I know already it is not just that God looks to one heart and would not judge person for not trusting something he could not know is true.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I believe it is wrong to go against my conviction that I trust God is fair that would not judge one for something he did not know and leave to Him what is just. But I believe only bible shows way of salvation and I should not go to church to participate only if to preach because I am confident of my beliefs that it is only reasonable thing to follow to know is right and leave to God to know.

God calls people to come out perhaps is Babylon which has become rich that is to look important and which has favour with people through lies. I believe it could be devil setup those divisions later to attack true gospel and the beast will seek to tolerate it for a time to allow it one way to deceive. I know church is not true anyway that signs mean nothing about doctrine to try to use them to testify because both Catholic and Orthodox make miracles or claim to and also all bible believers have at times done miracles and I never received miracle from church and one that shows me to claim to teach need to follow a church or churches

.I do not believe to support it but those who go and learn it can not give assurance to all that that their doctrines tell people they can not be saved now that God only judges you by whether you live faith you know not to earn should come out and if they put their trust in any thing or idea but not in Christ that scripture taught may be wrong and leave judgement of other Christian’s to Christ incase it is necessary to be saved and to be raptured so one goes not through difficult time.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I believe it is wrong to support divisions as does not help to encourage good not to offend others and to make problems and because it is not right to encourage people to be united to do more to help others and because it may stumble though I think they should leave judgement to Christ. Babylon is rather all who are living a non proper Christian life to focus on only seeking to use God for earthly gain in pretense rather than to sincerely seek to follow God. I believe it is wrong to encourage divisions as christians should still be united to encourage it to minister to all Christian’s to not support divisions to seem hateful to stumble people who follow churches to make them feel like they are not accepted by others to be worthy to minister to to be accepted which is not very encouraging for them to focus on what is important for all to be doing good to others if they have opportunity to give them opportunity to contribute with their gifts to seek to help all which they should be doing.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I am not sure to trust others from what I seen and not sure that to be sure to be saved I decided I would follow the Catholic Church which I think is right for people to do if you don’t know for sure other churches are right for God is just not to judge people who don’t know.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I decided I will go to church to learn but if not convinced will not trust as may not be true and judgement should be left to Christ. For it seems it could not be fair to require people to join church as others could maybe not know to not be convinced and people are only judged on what they heard to believe could be true to know. So I will go to church to learn but not accept if not proven and I believe all people in church if not proven should trust in Christ and leave judgement of other Christians to Christ.

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[mikeforjesus]

I believe people should be honest that God is just and will not judge person if does not know the truth so I decided I would follow Catholic Church first in case and also go to Orthodox Church to learn as far as I find it practical but if not practical I will not follow but trust only in Christ.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I decided to follow orthodox church for I don’t believe it just to judge something you don’t know if things are practical but if I find it not practical I will trust only in Christ.

 

[Michie]

It’s impossible to love Jesus and not love the church. I’m not talking about loving an organizational structure or programs, but the church for who she is as God’s people and the bride of Christ.

Jesus died for her. Flaws and all. God bless you on your journey.

 

[mikeforjesus]

Ok you may be right I decided rather I will follow Catholic Church as I don’t find acceptance in Orthodox Church to be welcome there so can not trust them as a body. I understand Catholics may not accept me because they think I will turn back to not be very welcoming of their culture but not orthodox. I do love all believers but God church is those who truly accept Jesus and what He taught to fulfill it so if I am convinced church is not practical and not according to Jesus words that it does not make it possible for all to be saved so not according to Jesus I will trust only in Christ.

 

[Michie]

Ok you may be right I decided rather I will follow Catholic Church as I don’t find acceptance in Orthodox Church to be welcome there so can not trust them as a body. I understand Catholics may not accept me because they think I will turn back to not be very welcoming of their culture but not orthodox. I do love all believers but God church is those who truly accept Jesus and what He taught to fulfill it so if I am convinced church is not practical and not according to Jesus words that it does not make it possible for all to be saved so not according to Jesus I will trust only in Christ.

Understanding that the Catholic Church is not Sola Scriptura and looking into early Church history will help you tremdously.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I decided it is wrong to tolerate what could be a lie to approve of them and accept that trusting fully only in Christ righteousness and not another thing is the only way safe to know that you can go to heaven and should leave judgement of other Christians to Christ. If others are worried to think it wrong they can go to any church to find out if it can convince that only they knew how to follow bible by the apostles showing out how it was lived out which was also described by tradition in early church and if not convinced to know should trust only in Christ. I know the church then only needed the bible to follow Christ as St. John says you have no need that anyone teach you but it could be because the apostles had taught them and described the whole way to them by word and epistle which they demonstrated it practically in their lives to know how to apply the word to their life.

 

[Michie]

I think this thread has moved beyond adding 2 cents.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I see no point still to follow that as I am not accepted by others which makes me think it may not be true and also I might as well find if it is or not true so I decided I will follow the Catholic Church if I find it practical and also Orthodox Church to test to see if practical and if not trust only in Christ.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I think this thread has moved beyond adding 2 cents.

No as I am reasonable not judging others to claim to know unlike you and you seem contemptuous to other believers which makes me think you are not sincere and is worthy not to respect your opinions with such attitude for Christ is not like that and does not teach that. You all traditional people always try to demean and mock your enemies. But also other Christians do too they do it to by doing it to one to make one feel guilty for serving Christ as he wants though it looks bad or make one feel like he is worthy to look down on to be rejected for his behaviour they do to Christ and must repent of that attitude of yours and theirs in your heart while you can incase you die before having opportunity to repent when you are not seeking to

 

[Michie]

No as I am reasonable not judging others to claim to know unlike you and you seem contemptuous to other believers which makes me think you are not sincere and is worthy not to respect your opinions with such attitude for Christ is not like that and does not teach that. You all traditional people always try to demean and mock your enemies. But also other Christians do too they do it to by doing it to one to make one feel guilty for serving Christ as he wants though it looks bad or make one feel like he is worthy to look down on to be rejected for his behaviour they do to Christ and must repent of that attitude of yours and theirs in your heart while you can incase you die before having opportunity to repent when you are not seeking to

No I’m not saying that at all. I just think you’d get more replies in Christian Advice, General Theology, etc. as this forum is basically a venting forum. But your comment here is telling. Sorry to disturb you thread. Hope to see you around. God bless you on your journey.